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Posted by cortelyounext on Fri May 29 09:43:49 2026 Approaching Max Q, telemetry nominal. It might take some time but that'll buff right out.#donotfly |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 29 10:48:22 2026, in response to Blue Origin Anomaly, posted by cortelyounext on Fri May 29 09:43:49 2026. It's interesting that we've been doing this for almost 70 years and it's still something that's extremely difficult to get right.*The same amount of time after the Wright Brothers' first flight was in 1972, by which point aviation was so mundane that any Joe Sweatsock could wedge himself behind a lunch tray and jet off to Raleigh-Durham. *Since New Glenn is intended to deliver a payload to orbit, I'm counting from the maiden flight of the R-7 rocket. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri May 29 13:50:46 2026, in response to Re: Blue Origin Anomaly, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 29 10:48:22 2026. Interestingly, private aviation has not progressed quite as well. Private pilots still consistently get into terrible trouble, either by flying into weather their planes aren't suited for, or by not being trained properly for the planes they are flying (e.g., JFK Jr.).As an aside, it's not rocket science that's so difficult, it's rocket engineering. The principles are very well known, but the engineering involved in precisely controlling extremely large explosions is still tricky. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 29 15:08:13 2026, in response to Re: Blue Origin Anomaly, posted by AlM on Fri May 29 13:50:46 2026. Just to oversimplify: Rocket exhaust is a controlled chemical reaction, not an explosion, just like any combustion in any other heat engine. One does not control an explosion, because by definition, allowing a reaction to explode (destroy your engine, or, hopefully not, vehicle) is to relinquish control over it. (On the same token, the phrase "controlled explosion" is a different scenario, i.e. with respect to demolition or war.) |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri May 29 18:05:33 2026, in response to Re: Blue Origin Anomaly, posted by AlM on Fri May 29 13:50:46 2026. it's not rocket science that's so difficultWhen was last time you derived a closed form solution for the Navier-Stokes equation for a compressible fluid (gas) in an arbitrary geometry? What about deriving the Renolds number for the combustion gas? |
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Posted by cortelyounext on Fri May 29 18:33:45 2026, in response to Re: Blue Origin Anomaly, posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri May 29 18:05:33 2026. When was last time you derived a closed form solution for the Navier-Stokes equation for a compressible fluid (gas) in an arbitrary geometry? What about deriving the Renolds number for the combustion gas?Yeah. AlM or A1M needs to answer those questions or must retract his/her/they assertion. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri May 29 19:28:22 2026, in response to Re: Blue Origin Anomaly, posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri May 29 18:05:33 2026. But those problems have been solved many years ago.It's applying them to working models that is taking so much time. |
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