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Posted by chicagoMotorman on Fri Nov 21 12:57:31 2025 Please discuss. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Nov 21 13:18:40 2025, in response to Don’t Follow Unlawful Orders, posted by chicagoMotorman on Fri Nov 21 12:57:31 2025. The orders that those seditious Dems would be talking about are absolutely not unlawful. What they're really saying is "Don't follow orders you don't like, even if they are indeed lawful".Bad and unlawful precedent is already on the Democrats' side, where police officers have followed all sorts of orders that are unlawful when they come from a Democratic mayor or governor. |
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Posted by chicagoMotorman on Fri Nov 21 14:03:36 2025, in response to Re: “Don’t Follow ‘Unlawful’ Orders”, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Nov 21 13:18:40 2025. IAWTLP. I am so disappointed with Mark Kelly. |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Nov 21 14:07:09 2025, in response to Don’t Follow Unlawful Orders, posted by chicagoMotorman on Fri Nov 21 12:57:31 2025. WHAT IS UNLAWFUL ORDER |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Nov 21 14:08:16 2025, in response to Re: “Don’t Follow ‘Unlawful’ Orders”, posted by chicagoMotorman on Fri Nov 21 14:03:36 2025. Oh? Thought one would expect it from a Democrat.A writer at Mother Jones spun this narrative into "Trump Endorses Hanging Democratic Members of Congress" without mentioning the sedition of said members of Congress. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Nov 21 14:36:55 2025, in response to Don’t Follow Unlawful Orders, posted by chicagoMotorman on Fri Nov 21 12:57:31 2025. They're just reminding them of their duties. |
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Posted by chicagoMotorman on Fri Nov 21 14:56:15 2025, in response to Re: Don’t Follow Unlawful Orders, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Nov 21 14:36:55 2025. You have no issue with what those democrats said? |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Nov 21 16:19:40 2025, in response to Re: Don’t Follow Unlawful Orders, posted by chicagoMotorman on Fri Nov 21 14:56:15 2025. So what are troops supposed to do when they are given an unlawful order? Follow it or not follow it?The Nuremberg trials have given us an answer. Do you disagree? |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Nov 21 16:42:57 2025, in response to Re: Don’t Follow Unlawful Orders, posted by AlM on Fri Nov 21 16:19:40 2025. RIGHT |
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Posted by chicagoMotorman on Fri Nov 21 16:56:42 2025, in response to Re: Don’t Follow Unlawful Orders, posted by AlM on Fri Nov 21 16:19:40 2025. How dare you even so much as hint at that analogy. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Nov 21 17:35:19 2025, in response to Re: Don’t Follow Unlawful Orders, posted by chicagoMotorman on Fri Nov 21 16:56:42 2025. Why not?I'm not suggesting that our current government's illegal orders are anywhere near as terrible as the Nazis' illegal orders. But the principle is the same. Don't follow illegal orders. It's not as though little illegal orders are OK. |
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Posted by Chicagomotorman on Fri Nov 21 17:56:25 2025, in response to Re: Don’t Follow Unlawful Orders, posted by AlM on Fri Nov 21 17:35:19 2025. Ok. Thank you for clearing that up. Now what unlawful order has our commander in chief given to our troops? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Nov 21 18:03:33 2025, in response to Re: Don’t Follow Unlawful Orders, posted by Chicagomotorman on Fri Nov 21 17:56:25 2025. Blowing up the fishing boats MAY have been unlawful (I am not certain of this). |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Nov 21 19:11:30 2025, in response to Re: Don’t Follow Unlawful Orders, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Nov 21 14:07:09 2025. Good question. How is the guy (or girl) in the field going to know if an order is unlawful or not? (aside from what Lt Calley was court-marshalled for) |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Nov 21 19:52:53 2025, in response to Re: Don’t Follow Unlawful Orders, posted by Chicagomotorman on Fri Nov 21 17:56:25 2025. I never said there were any. Neither did the people who told troops not to follow unlawful orders. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Nov 21 19:54:35 2025, in response to Re: Don’t Follow Unlawful Orders, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Nov 21 19:11:30 2025. Good question. How is the guy (or girl) in the field going to know if an order is unlawful or not?It may not be clear, in which case the soldier can't be blamed for following the order. But in some cases it could be clear. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Nov 21 20:23:11 2025, in response to Re: Don’t Follow Unlawful Orders, posted by Chicagomotorman on Fri Nov 21 17:56:25 2025. None. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Nov 21 21:22:32 2025, in response to Re: Don’t Follow Unlawful Orders, posted by chicagoMotorman on Fri Nov 21 14:56:15 2025. I don’t know exactly what they said, just the gist of it, but I don’t have a problem with them saying that they should take care to not follow unlawful orders. That’s already military policy. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Nov 21 21:26:19 2025, in response to Re: Don’t Follow Unlawful Orders, posted by AlM on Fri Nov 21 19:54:35 2025. I’m sure that there’s a fairly clear standard that’s been figured out by now. |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Fri Nov 21 22:01:37 2025, in response to Re: Don’t Follow Unlawful Orders, posted by AlM on Fri Nov 21 17:35:19 2025. You say "this country's illegal orders". I'd like to know what illegal orders you are referring to. Of course i know that you won't answer but in this case you also can't answer. |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Fri Nov 21 22:03:11 2025, in response to Re: Don’t Follow Unlawful Orders, posted by Chicagomotorman on Fri Nov 21 17:56:25 2025. There have been none contrary to AlMs allegations. |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Nov 21 22:09:47 2025, in response to Re: Don’t Follow Unlawful Orders, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Nov 21 19:11:30 2025. EXACTLY |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Nov 21 22:11:47 2025, in response to Re: Don’t Follow Unlawful Orders, posted by AlM on Fri Nov 21 16:19:40 2025. The Nuremburg trials punished those who gave the orders, not those who followed them (with rare exceptions) |
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