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Re: List of NYC middle class neighborhoods

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Nov 9 19:44:28 2025, in response to Re: List of NYC middle class neighborhoods, posted by mtk52983 on Sun Nov 9 18:50:22 2025.

Good point.

You'll see row homes on one block then cross the expressway and see expensive homes a few blocks away.

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Re: List of NYC middle class neighborhoods

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Nov 9 20:30:48 2025, in response to Re: List of NYC middle class neighborhoods, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 9 15:57:41 2025.

Nope, my grandfather decided to sell it to his sister, who was already living there all her life. Then she died and her new husband got the building and sold to Chinese

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Re: List of NYC middle class neighborhoods

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Nov 9 20:47:10 2025, in response to Re: List of NYC middle class neighborhoods, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Nov 9 20:30:48 2025.

I often wondered where the Chinese got all that $$$ to buy up all that real estate along Northern Blvd? I haven't been in those parts in awhile. Someday I have to go by 193d St and Northern Blvd to see if my brother still has that street named after him.
Has the Chinese bought up properties beyond Bell Blvd?

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Re: List of NYC middle class neighborhoods

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Nov 9 20:50:37 2025, in response to Re: List of NYC middle class neighborhoods, posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Nov 9 00:39:39 2025.

True. I'm sure that most of the homeowners there could not afford to buy those houses at todays market prices.

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Re: List of NYC middle class neighborhoods

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Nov 9 20:54:58 2025, in response to Re: List of NYC middle class neighborhoods, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Nov 9 20:50:37 2025.

Which is why I predict "change".

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Re: List of NYC middle class neighborhoods

Posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Nov 9 22:23:21 2025, in response to Re: List of NYC middle class neighborhoods, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Nov 9 20:50:37 2025.

Not with the 1910s-1990s life they once enjoyed.

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Re: List of NYC middle class neighborhoods

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Nov 10 02:40:24 2025, in response to Re: List of NYC middle class neighborhoods, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Nov 9 20:47:10 2025.

In my neighborhood it was first the Chinese from the Hong Kong area, who spoke Cantonese and were "middle/working class around 1980. Each year, there was a slow but steady stream growing and houses were still in the 50-80K range (if you could believe that) Then, around 1984ish Britain said they were giving Hong Kong back to China. This opened up the floodgates of Chinamen who made houses go up, up, up! The whites that owned sold for a premium (aunt and uncle sold in late 85 for 250K , unheard of, and bought a McMansion in western NJ with the money. The whites who rented or got married and wanted to buy in the neighborhood got priced out. Chinese Mafia bankrolled lots of them.

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Re: List of NYC middle class neighborhoods

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Nov 10 02:41:46 2025, in response to Re: List of NYC middle class neighborhoods, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Nov 9 20:54:58 2025.

I'm picking up what you're throwing down!

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Re: List of NYC middle class neighborhoods

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 10 02:44:54 2025, in response to Re: List of NYC middle class neighborhoods, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Nov 10 02:40:24 2025.

Then, around 1984ish Britain said they were giving Hong Kong back to China

That was a big load of hooey. Red China was not the original owner of Hong Kong. And Red China has repeatedly broken whatever agreements they made, so HK should revert to Britain; but there's a king in place now that's way too weak to make such a stand.

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Re: List of NYC middle class neighborhoods

Posted by subfan on Mon Nov 10 05:47:12 2025, in response to List of NYC middle class neighborhoods, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Nov 8 02:11:31 2025.

Kensington? At least part of it.

Canarsie

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Re: List of NYC middle class neighborhoods

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 10 12:42:44 2025, in response to Re: List of NYC middle class neighborhoods, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 10 02:44:54 2025.

What the fuck does the KING have to do with anything? Do you not understand how Constitutional monarchy works?

Hong Kong was part of China before the First Opium War. The British could have given Hong Kong to Taiwan, but then the PRC would have invaded.

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Re: List of NYC middle class neighborhoods

Posted by AlM on Mon Nov 10 13:01:42 2025, in response to Re: List of NYC middle class neighborhoods, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 10 12:42:44 2025.

Do you not understand how Constitutional monarchy works?

I think we know the answer to that question.

Even King George III no longer had the kind of power that Olog attributes to the British monarch, despite anything the Declaration of Independence says to the contrary. Maybe, just maybe, William and Mary did.



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Re: List of NYC middle class neighborhoods

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 10 13:10:58 2025, in response to Re: List of NYC middle class neighborhoods, posted by AlM on Mon Nov 10 13:01:42 2025.

The Declaration of Independence makes sense if you consider the Prime Minister and his cabinet to be "His Majesty's Government". Anything the government does is done in the name of the King, even if not actually done by the King.

They believed that the King was still the sovereign, at least until they actually declared independence, but his power was legitimately through the provincial assemblies (where they were represented) and not through Westminster (where they weren't). Basically, they wanted to be like Canada is now and having not gotten this from the King they decided to go their own way.

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Re: List of NYC middle class neighborhoods

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 10 13:12:39 2025, in response to Re: List of NYC middle class neighborhoods, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Nov 9 20:30:48 2025.

She should have gotten a prenup.

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Re: List of NYC middle class neighborhoods

Posted by AlM on Mon Nov 10 13:44:45 2025, in response to Re: List of NYC middle class neighborhoods, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 10 13:12:39 2025.

???

If the sister inherited the building as stated, it seems she left it to her husband. She could have left it to her blood relatives, but didn't do that.



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Re: List of NYC middle class neighborhoods

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 10 14:12:48 2025, in response to Re: List of NYC middle class neighborhoods, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Nov 9 20:47:10 2025.

I often wondered where the Chinese got all that $$$ to buy up all that real estate along Northern Blvd?

Look at anything in your house that says "Made In China". That's how. Never mind the left-wing politicians that make it easier for them to make those purchases.

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Re: List of NYC middle class neighborhoods

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Nov 10 14:48:51 2025, in response to Re: List of NYC middle class neighborhoods, posted by subfan on Mon Nov 10 05:47:12 2025.

Good choices.



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Re: List of NYC middle class neighborhoods

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 10 15:00:15 2025, in response to Re: List of NYC middle class neighborhoods, posted by AlM on Mon Nov 10 13:44:45 2025.

Bill didn’t indicate that she had a will. If she didn’t, then her whole estate would have gone to her husband if she had no children.

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Re: List of NYC middle class neighborhoods

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Nov 10 15:00:51 2025, in response to List of NYC middle class neighborhoods, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Nov 8 02:11:31 2025.

Nilet belongs in Chelsea or East Village.

Chicagomotorman belongs in Woodhaven.

Olog-hai belongs in Fresh Meadows. Someplace with no subway service.

AlM belongs in Chelsea.

OBS might like Rego Park.

Cortelyounext obviously belongs in Kew Gardens/Richmond Hill.





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Re: List of NYC middle class neighborhoods

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Nov 10 16:28:48 2025, in response to Re: List of NYC middle class neighborhoods, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 10 15:00:15 2025.

These were HS dropout old school working class Brooklyn people. No will, prenuptial, etc..

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Re: List of NYC middle class neighborhoods

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 10 17:18:56 2025, in response to Re: List of NYC middle class neighborhoods, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Nov 10 16:28:48 2025.

That or your grandfather should have given her a life estate.

But yeah, they probably didn't know what that was. I didn't know what that was until law school and don't think I've ever met anyone not a lawyer who knows what a life estate is.

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Re: List of NYC middle class neighborhoods

Posted by AlM on Mon Nov 10 17:29:12 2025, in response to Re: List of NYC middle class neighborhoods, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 10 17:18:56 2025.

don't think I've ever met anyone not a lawyer who knows what a life estate is

Well, you've never met me, but I knew of the concept of someone being granted use of a house until they died, after which it would go to a person specified by the grantor, when I was 6 years old. I didn't know it was called a "life estate" though.

Not surprisingly, there's a reason specific to my family for why I knew about this at that young an age.



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Re: List of NYC middle class neighborhoods

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Nov 10 20:47:46 2025, in response to Re: List of NYC middle class neighborhoods, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 10 17:18:56 2025.

They are more common than you think. It makes sense

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Re: List of NYC middle class neighborhoods

Posted by Catfish 44 on Mon Nov 10 22:18:06 2025, in response to Re: List of NYC middle class neighborhoods, posted by AlM on Mon Nov 10 17:29:12 2025.

🤦‍♂️

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Re: List of NYC middle class neighborhoods

Posted by Catfish 44 on Mon Nov 10 22:18:50 2025, in response to Re: List of NYC middle class neighborhoods, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Nov 10 15:00:51 2025.

That’s a short list

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