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Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 11 13:47:16 2025, in response to Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Sep 11 09:37:19 2025.

So...using your logic, because he's pro-2A and spoke up for our right to bear arms, that means he should be arbitrarily shot because of it? That makes NO sense.

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Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 11 13:49:47 2025, in response to Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event, posted by bingbong on Thu Sep 11 09:53:16 2025.

Dying by the sword would entail him dying in a gun battle. Getting shot while talking isn't the same.

He also had a protection detail, bit it can't do anything against a long distance sniper.

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Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 11 13:51:17 2025, in response to Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event, posted by bingbong on Thu Sep 11 12:36:32 2025.

Politics.

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Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 11 13:53:49 2025, in response to Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event, posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Sep 11 11:04:23 2025.

FACTS!

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Re: PARDON DEREK CHAUVIN NOW!

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 11 14:11:06 2025, in response to PARDON DEREK CHAUVIN NOW!, posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Sep 11 12:57:14 2025.

So you want him to be transferred to state prison? You know state prison is usually worse than federal, right?

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Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 11 14:15:18 2025, in response to Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event, posted by bingbong on Thu Sep 11 12:46:58 2025.

So you think that anyone who agrees with him is a lawful combatant?

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Re: PARDON DEREK CHAUVIN NOW!

Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Sep 11 14:15:55 2025, in response to Re: PARDON DEREK CHAUVIN NOW!, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 11 14:11:06 2025.

Really? How so?

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Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 11 14:17:29 2025, in response to Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Thu Sep 11 10:01:55 2025.

Because he dared to advocate for a free society and for our Constitution, he should only ever speak behind a plexiglass barrier like he's the president or the pope.

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Re: PARDON DEREK CHAUVIN NOW!

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 11 14:19:18 2025, in response to Re: PARDON DEREK CHAUVIN NOW!, posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Sep 11 14:15:55 2025.

If the president pardoned him, then he would still be subject to imprisonment for his state conviction, so he would be arrested and sent to state prison.

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Re: PARDON DEREK CHAUVIN NOW!

Posted by chicagoMotorman on Thu Sep 11 14:25:52 2025, in response to Re: PARDON DEREK CHAUVIN NOW!, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 11 14:19:18 2025.

Either way, an innocent man is in jail.

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Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Thu Sep 11 14:35:11 2025, in response to Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 11 14:17:29 2025.

I did not advocate anyrhing like that. I said that bind
Gbong was a VILE CUNT for suggesting that he deserved to be shot because he said something that godless bitch disagreed woth.

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Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk assassinated at Utah Valley University event

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 11 14:49:57 2025, in response to Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event, posted by bingbong on Thu Sep 11 09:53:16 2025.

Get off my thread, you vile misanthrope.

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Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Sep 11 15:54:47 2025, in response to Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 11 13:47:16 2025.

I was talking about Matthew Dowd in response to the video clip CMM posted.

I do think there is a certain amount of irony that Charlie Kirk likely died on account of the risks that he was apparently OK with taking in order to preserve the Second Amendment, but I don't think that is reason for him (or anyone else) to be shot to death.

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Re: PARDON DEREK CHAUVIN NOW!

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 11 16:32:35 2025, in response to Re: PARDON DEREK CHAUVIN NOW!, posted by chicagoMotorman on Thu Sep 11 14:25:52 2025.

He’s not innocent.

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Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 11 16:33:22 2025, in response to Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Thu Sep 11 14:35:11 2025.

Huh? I was agreeing with you. What she said was disgusting.

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Re: PARDON DEREK CHAUVIN NOW!

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Sep 11 16:46:04 2025, in response to Re: PARDON DEREK CHAUVIN NOW!, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 11 16:32:35 2025.

figures

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Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Thu Sep 11 16:52:14 2025, in response to Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Sep 11 15:54:47 2025.

Sadly, you obviously enjoy the irony despite your statement to the contrary. On the other hand, Charlie Kirk is know to be an ardent supporter of the constitution. Sadly losers like bingbong and yourself both zero in on the 2nd ammendment as if that's all there is to our Constitution

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Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Thu Sep 11 16:54:09 2025, in response to Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 11 16:33:22 2025.

I didn't to infer otherwise

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Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Sep 11 16:56:33 2025, in response to Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 11 10:34:27 2025.

Excellent post!

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Re: PARDON DEREK CHAUVIN NOW!

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Sep 11 16:57:05 2025, in response to Re: PARDON DEREK CHAUVIN NOW!, posted by chicagoMotorman on Thu Sep 11 14:25:52 2025.

HUH ?????????????????

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Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event

Posted by AlM on Thu Sep 11 16:58:30 2025, in response to Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 11 14:17:29 2025.

Because he dared to advocate for a free society and for our Constitution

His murder is a terrible event for our country.

And people should not have to need bulletproof barriers just because they make controversial statements.

But he sure had a strange way of advocating for a free society, in that he used his superb sales abilities to push a lot of dubious ideas:

- Social distancing is a Democratic plot against Christianity.
- The science around masks is very questionable.
- Covid vaccines are unsafe.
- There was rampant election fraud in 2020.
- Birth control makes women angry and bitter.
- The concept of white privilege is a myth.
- The passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was a huge mistake.
- Jewish communities have been pushing the exact kind of hatred against whites that they claim to want people to stop using against them.
- Separation of church and state should be ended in the US.


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Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 11 17:05:11 2025, in response to Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event, posted by AlM on Thu Sep 11 16:58:30 2025.

“Because he dared to advocate, inter alia, for a free society and for our Constitution…”

There, corrected.

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Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Thu Sep 11 17:07:06 2025, in response to Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event, posted by AlM on Thu Sep 11 16:58:30 2025.

I am not certain that those were all positions taken by Charlie Kirk. None the less none of those positions would merit him the death penalty, if true.

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Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Sep 11 17:09:10 2025, in response to Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Thu Sep 11 16:52:14 2025.

WTF are you talking about? How did you conclude that I enjoy the irony?

You yourself have said you don't bother to familiarize yourself with the actual laws that pertain to the topics you discuss here, such as the DC Home Rule Act or Article I, Section 8, Clause 17 of the Constitution.

Do you have anything to offer here besides vitriol and insults towards anyone who dare disagree with you?

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Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event

Posted by AlM on Thu Sep 11 17:21:23 2025, in response to Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 11 17:05:11 2025.

Yeah, but just because we have a First Amendment and it's not a crime to tell political lies (which is a very good thing) doesn't mean that it's admirable to abuse the privilege.



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Re: PARDON DEREK CHAUVIN NOW!

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 11 17:25:41 2025, in response to Re: PARDON DEREK CHAUVIN NOW!, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 11 16:32:35 2025.

Yes he is, Spider-font color="red">Nazi.

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Re: PARDON DEREK CHAUVIN NOW!

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 11 17:26:02 2025, in response to Re: PARDON DEREK CHAUVIN NOW!, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 11 16:32:35 2025.

Yes he is, Spider-Nazi.

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Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk assassinated at Utah Valley University event

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 11 17:28:09 2025, in response to Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 11 10:34:27 2025.

Floyd was not murdered.

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Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 11 17:28:57 2025, in response to Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event, posted by bingbong on Thu Sep 11 10:17:24 2025.

Get off my thread, Nazi.

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Re: PARDON DEREK CHAUVIN NOW!

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Sep 11 17:56:44 2025, in response to Re: PARDON DEREK CHAUVIN NOW!, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 11 17:26:02 2025.

Lol

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Re: PARDON DEREK CHAUVIN NOW!

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 11 17:58:18 2025, in response to Re: PARDON DEREK CHAUVIN NOW!, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 11 17:26:02 2025.

You live a rich fantasy life.

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Re: PARDON DEREK CHAUVIN NOW!

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Sep 11 18:22:45 2025, in response to Re: PARDON DEREK CHAUVIN NOW!, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 11 17:58:18 2025.

How do you know how much money he has?

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Re: PARDON DEREK CHAUVIN NOW!

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 11 18:40:02 2025, in response to Re: PARDON DEREK CHAUVIN NOW!, posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Sep 11 18:22:45 2025.

???

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Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Thu Sep 11 18:59:45 2025, in response to Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Sep 11 17:09:10 2025.

Come on spike. Of all the positions that Charlie Kirk took, the 2nd ammendment was one of the ones he least spoke of except in response to leftist radicals. Its ironic only in your pitiful mind.

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Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Thu Sep 11 18:59:47 2025, in response to Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Sep 11 17:09:10 2025.

Come on spike. Of all the positions that Charlie Kirk took, the 2nd ammendment was one of the ones he least spoke of except in response to leftist radicals. Its ironic only in your pitiful mind.

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Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk assassinated at Utah Valley University event

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Thu Sep 11 19:05:22 2025, in response to Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk assassinated at Utah Valley University event, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 11 17:28:09 2025.

Another myth that leftists lovebto perpetuate. He died by his own bad behavior.

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Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk assassinated at Utah Valley University event

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 11 19:08:23 2025, in response to Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk assassinated at Utah Valley University event, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Thu Sep 11 19:05:22 2025.

He was strangled by Chauvin sitting on his neck.

This is not like Eric Garner who died as a result of being morbidly obese.

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Re: PARDON DEREK CHAUVIN NOW!

Posted by chicagoMotorman on Thu Sep 11 19:08:56 2025, in response to Re: PARDON DEREK CHAUVIN NOW!, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 11 18:40:02 2025.

Your post says he's rich.

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Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk assassinated at Utah Valley University event

Posted by chicagoMotorman on Thu Sep 11 19:13:47 2025, in response to Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk assassinated at Utah Valley University event, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 11 19:08:23 2025.

Very much like Eric Garner.

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Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Thu Sep 11 19:17:11 2025, in response to Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event, posted by bingbong on Thu Sep 11 12:46:58 2025.

That you had to go back 29 months to find a quote to even try to justify yourself and hang your dunce cap on, shows how small a part of his message the 2nd ammendment really was. That you then compare his death as a moral equivalent to the death of a career criminal and drug user, shows how despicable a person you are. Thankfully, devine intervention kept you from producing any evil spawns.

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Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk assassinated at Utah Valley University event

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Thu Sep 11 19:27:11 2025, in response to Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk assassinated at Utah Valley University event, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 11 19:08:23 2025.

Chauvin exceeded his procedures but the! medical examiner confirmed:

AI Overview:
The death of George Floyd was ruled a homicide caused by law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression. Conflicting reports from the official autopsy, an independent autopsy, and defense claims in court led to disputes over the exact cause of death during the trial of former officer Derek Chauvin.
Official Hennepin County autopsy
The official autopsy conducted by the Hennepin County Medical Examiner, Dr. Andrew Baker, listed the cause of death as "cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression" and the manner of death as a homicide.
Contributing factors: Other "significant conditions" listed included hypertensive heart disease and the use of fentanyl and methamphetamine.9
Police restraint: Dr. Baker testified that the restraint was "just more than Mr. Floyd could take" given his underlying heart conditions.

Intoxicants: Dr. Baker acknowledged that drugs played a role but were not the direct cause. He stated that the toxicological status was a contributing factor.


Parenthetically: I sympathized with Chauvin but accepted without question the verdict.


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Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk assassinated at Utah Valley University event

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 11 19:28:24 2025, in response to Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk assassinated at Utah Valley University event, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Thu Sep 11 19:27:11 2025.

Always question the verdict and always get a second opinion from someone who isn't a political hack of a ME.

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Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk assassinated at Utah Valley University event

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Sep 11 19:29:01 2025, in response to Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk assassinated at Utah Valley University event, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Thu Sep 11 19:27:11 2025.

I don't accept it.

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Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event

Posted by bingbong on Thu Sep 11 19:35:38 2025, in response to Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Thu Sep 11 19:17:11 2025.

Two days ago he was worth an eye-roll to me. Another RWer spewing hate. I just moved on.

Suddenly he's some variety of messiah.

And he stood by his 29 month old statement until his demise. In afct, he was reiterating it when the lethal shot hit him.

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Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Sep 11 19:36:59 2025, in response to Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event, posted by bingbong on Thu Sep 11 19:35:38 2025.

FUCK YOU

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Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 11 20:30:44 2025, in response to Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Sep 11 15:54:47 2025.

Fair enough.

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Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 11 20:33:46 2025, in response to Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 11 20:30:44 2025.

How?

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Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 11 20:33:46 2025, in response to Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 11 20:30:44 2025.

How?

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Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Thu Sep 11 20:42:56 2025, in response to Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event, posted by bingbong on Thu Sep 11 19:35:38 2025.

You've spewed more lef ting hatred in 3 posts than he's commented in his lifetime. His whole Schtick is peaceful debate. I have always been right about you.

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Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Sep 12 04:38:28 2025, in response to Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 11 20:33:46 2025.

The last sentence.

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