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Mahmoud Abbas and Fatah declare all of Israel to be Palestine, in new map on official logo

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Dec 30 04:27:07 2012

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Bears repeating: The UN voted for World War Three when they recognized the illegitimate state of "Palestine".

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Abbas Makes It Official: All of Israel is Palestine

The Fatah party, headed by Abbas, has made official what it has been saying more quietly and adopts a new logo: All of Israel as Palestine.

By Tzvi Ben Gedalyahu
First Publish: 12/30/2012, 9:09 AM<
The Fatah party, headed by Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas, has made official what it has been saying more quietly and has adopted a new logo showing all of Israel as Palestine.

The logo marks the 48th anniversary of the founding of Fatah by Yasser Arafat and includes a map with the PA flag and a map of Israel that appears to be a depiction of the black and white checkered kefiyah, a symbol of the violent intifada, and the slogan “the state and victory.”

PMW revealed that the official PA daily published the new official logo.

For the past year, official PA documents have increasingly shown Palestine as covering all of Israel, but this is the first time the Fatah party has officially placed the map on its logo.

PMW noted, “Other symbols central to Fatah ideology also appear in the logo, including a rifle and a key symbolizing the Palestinian claim of ownership to houses within Israel.”

The Arab media watchdog translated and published the article announcing the new logo:
Senior Fatah official in the Gaza Strip, Yahya Rabah, stressed that the movement this year will hold a big, central rally in the Gaza Strip on the day of the 48th anniversary of the beginning of the Palestinian revolution.

Rabah explained to Ma’an that the event will be held considering the atmosphere of reconciliation and unity that has prevailed in the Palestinian arena in the last few….

The organizing committee for the 48th anniversary of the Fatah movement approved this year's main anniversary logo… [The rally] will take place in Gaza to mark the 48th anniversary of the modern Palestinian revolution under the slogan “the state and the victory.”
The Zionist Organization of America (ZOA) reacted to the new logo by urging:
President Barack Obama, the European Union and the United Nations to condemn this outrage which reiterates the clear fact that Abbas and the Fatah/PA have no interest in peace with Israel, only its destruction.
ZOA National President Morton A. Klein said:
This new Fatah logo graphically depicts the ugly truth about this unreconstructed terrorist organization whose Constitution to this day calls for the destruction of Israel (Article 13) and the use of terrorism as an essential element in the struggle to achieve this aim (Article 19). …It belies the fiction that Mahmoud Abbas is a “moderate” who seeks peace with Israel, and who wishes to end Palestinian terrorism against Israeli Jews. It also makes clear that the principles of Yasser Arafat are respected and promoted.

The new Fatah logo is not an aberration. The Palestinian Authority continues to promote the incitement of hatred in Palestinian mosques, schools and media. The ZOA renews it call upon the Obama Administration to stop wasting hundreds of millions of dollars on the unreformed terrorist entity that is Fatah, to stop making excuses for Abbas, and to stop pressuring Israel to make dangerous concessions on the altar of appeasement.



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Re: Mahmoud Abbas and Fatah declare all of Israel to be Palestine, in new map on official logo

Posted by Mitch45 on Sun Dec 30 08:19:01 2012, in response to Mahmoud Abbas and Fatah declare all of Israel to be Palestine, in new map on official logo, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Dec 30 04:27:07 2012.

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Lets make this clear, going forward.

Anything and everything produced by (1) Hamas, (2) Hizbullah and (3) the Palestinian Authority is going to be (1) anti-Israel and (2) denying any Jewish link to any part of Israel and (3) full of propaganda as to Israeli war crimes.

So the next time you see something like this, you don't have to report it. We know. The next Palestinian who produces anything remotely neutral about Israel is the next Palestinian who gets his head lopped off.

OK? Its not news.

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Re: Mahmoud Abbas and Fatah declare all of Israel to be Palestine, in new map on official logo

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Dec 30 11:45:19 2012, in response to Re: Mahmoud Abbas and Fatah declare all of Israel to be Palestine, in new map on official logo, posted by Mitch45 on Sun Dec 30 08:19:01 2012.

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Yes, it is news. You know why? Because it'll be the cause of the next big world war. Just because the liberal population wants to ignore it does not make it not news.

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Re: Mahmoud Abbas and Fatah declare all of Israel to be Palestine, in new map on official logo

Posted by orange blossom special on Sun Dec 30 15:06:56 2012, in response to Re: Mahmoud Abbas and Fatah declare all of Israel to be Palestine, in new map on official logo, posted by Mitch45 on Sun Dec 30 08:19:01 2012.

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It's news to at least half this board and 53 or was it 57% of the country.
This isn't news because that was the old logo as well, but even the reporter apparently didn't know.

Just look at the idiot responses I get when I post what should be common information. Like that 10,000 dollar a year tuition plan going on in multiple states. Retards here couldn't deal with it.

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Re: Mahmoud Abbas and Fatah declare all of Israel to be Palestine, in new map on official logo

Posted by Mitch45 on Sun Dec 30 15:28:11 2012, in response to Re: Mahmoud Abbas and Fatah declare all of Israel to be Palestine, in new map on official logo, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Dec 30 11:45:19 2012.

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I doubt that. I think that the attitude being displayed by the PA guarantees continuing warfare for the foreseeable future in the region, but nothing like a world war.

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Re: Mahmoud Abbas and Fatah declare all of Israel to be Palestine, in new map on official logo

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Dec 30 15:36:58 2012, in response to Re: Mahmoud Abbas and Fatah declare all of Israel to be Palestine, in new map on official logo, posted by Mitch45 on Sun Dec 30 15:28:11 2012.

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Then you don't understand what's been going on for the past few decades. Russia, China, the European Union, and of course Iran have all been background players in this drama in the Middle East. Everything will center around Jerusalem. If the "Palestinians" succeed in taking half of Jerusalem away from the state of Israel, that is the beginning of the third world war. Don't be shocked when (not if) it happens.

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Re: Mahmoud Abbas and Fatah declare all of Israel to be Palestine, in new map on official logo

Posted by New Flyer #857 on Sun Dec 30 16:16:16 2012, in response to Re: Mahmoud Abbas and Fatah declare all of Israel to be Palestine, in new map on official logo, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Dec 30 15:36:58 2012.

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I couldn't believe how things are so (relatively) peaceful in Jerusalem, considering how much trouble it causes everyone else.

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Re: Mahmoud Abbas and Fatah declare all of Israel to be Palestine, in new map on official logo

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Dec 30 16:18:11 2012, in response to Re: Mahmoud Abbas and Fatah declare all of Israel to be Palestine, in new map on official logo, posted by New Flyer #857 on Sun Dec 30 16:16:16 2012.

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You might find this interesting

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Re: Mahmoud Abbas and Fatah declare all of Israel to be Palestine, in new map on official logo

Posted by RockParkMan on Sun Dec 30 16:25:26 2012, in response to Re: Mahmoud Abbas and Fatah declare all of Israel to be Palestine, in new map on official logo, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Dec 30 11:45:19 2012.

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your sect worships WW3.

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Re: Mahmoud Abbas and Fatah declare all of Israel to be Palestine, in new map on official logo

Posted by New Flyer #857 on Sun Dec 30 16:30:46 2012, in response to Re: Mahmoud Abbas and Fatah declare all of Israel to be Palestine, in new map on official logo, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Dec 30 16:18:11 2012.

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I'm not going to do the registration, but I get the theme of the article and got some more insight here:
http://mystical-politics.blogspot.com/2012/12/israelization-among-east-jerusalem.html

Is it basically Old City and east that is considered East Jerusalem, until the desert starts? Is it the dotted line that appears there on Google Maps that really sociologically labels "East" Jerusalem?

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Re: Mahmoud Abbas and Fatah declare all of Israel to be Palestine, in new map on official logo

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Dec 30 17:15:56 2012, in response to Re: Mahmoud Abbas and Fatah declare all of Israel to be Palestine, in new map on official logo, posted by New Flyer #857 on Sun Dec 30 16:30:46 2012.

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Yes, but I think this map shows it a bit more clearly, since it shows both the Green Line and the municipal borders of Jerusalem. Hardly anyone refers to the Old City as East Jerusalem, even in the media, based on what I've read. On the other hand, as you can see from the map, there are East Jerusalem neighborhoods that are north, south, and even WEST of West Jerusalem neighborhoods.

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Re: Mahmoud Abbas and Fatah declare all of Israel to be Palestine, in new map on official logo

Posted by New Flyer #857 on Sun Dec 30 17:35:30 2012, in response to Re: Mahmoud Abbas and Fatah declare all of Israel to be Palestine, in new map on official logo, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Dec 30 17:15:56 2012.

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Does that in street conversation put the city center in "West Jerusalem?" Is "West Jerusalem" used regularly in speech?

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Re: Mahmoud Abbas and Fatah declare all of Israel to be Palestine, in new map on official logo

Posted by Mitch45 on Sun Dec 30 19:01:14 2012, in response to Re: Mahmoud Abbas and Fatah declare all of Israel to be Palestine, in new map on official logo, posted by New Flyer #857 on Sun Dec 30 16:30:46 2012.

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The original partition plan of 1947 gave almost all of the Old City to the Arabs, with the Jews getting West Jerusalem and maybe some access to the Jewish Quarter.

Of course, they rejected that and here we are.

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Re: Mahmoud Abbas and Fatah declare all of Israel to be Palestine, in new map on official logo

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Dec 30 20:02:14 2012, in response to Re: Mahmoud Abbas and Fatah declare all of Israel to be Palestine, in new map on official logo, posted by Mitch45 on Sun Dec 30 19:01:14 2012.

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FALSE. Jerusalem would have been the (completely impracticable) "corpus separatum." It would would have been internationally-administered and completely surrounded by the Arab sector. Jews wouldn't have even had a corridor to it.

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Re: Mahmoud Abbas and Fatah declare all of Israel to be Palestine, in new map on official logo

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Dec 30 20:14:17 2012, in response to Re: Mahmoud Abbas and Fatah declare all of Israel to be Palestine, in new map on official logo, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Dec 30 16:18:11 2012.

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Wow, that's a pack of lies. Ha'aretz is going off the deep end now.

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Re: Mahmoud Abbas and Fatah declare all of Israel to be Palestine, in new map on official logo

Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Dec 30 21:09:16 2012, in response to Re: Mahmoud Abbas and Fatah declare all of Israel to be Palestine, in new map on official logo, posted by RockParkMan on Sun Dec 30 16:25:26 2012.

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Olog is a Troll!!!!!

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Re: Mahmoud Abbas and Fatah declare all of Israel to be Palestine, in new map on official logo

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Dec 31 01:14:02 2012, in response to Re: Mahmoud Abbas and Fatah declare all of Israel to be Palestine, in new map on official logo, posted by New Flyer #857 on Sun Dec 30 17:35:30 2012.

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Yes and no.

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Re: Mahmoud Abbas and Fatah declare all of Israel to be Palestine, in new map on official logo

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Dec 31 01:15:44 2012, in response to Re: Mahmoud Abbas and Fatah declare all of Israel to be Palestine, in new map on official logo, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Dec 30 20:14:17 2012.

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Proff?

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Re: Mahmoud Abbas and Fatah declare all of Israel to be Palestine, in new map on official logo

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Dec 31 03:17:20 2012, in response to Re: Mahmoud Abbas and Fatah declare all of Israel to be Palestine, in new map on official logo, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Dec 31 01:15:44 2012.

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Have a significant number of Palestinians in question stopped calling themselves by that false appellation and/or eschewed Islam?

Don't be surprised when (not if) "East" Jerusalem is taken from Israel by the "State" of Palestine.

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Re: Mahmoud Abbas and Fatah declare all of Israel to be Palestine, in new map on official logo

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Dec 31 04:08:51 2012, in response to Re: Mahmoud Abbas and Fatah declare all of Israel to be Palestine, in new map on official logo, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Dec 31 03:17:20 2012.

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Have a significant number of Palestinians in question stopped calling themselves by that false appellation and/or eschewed Islam?

Not entirely relevant. Polls have always indicated that many Palestinians in East Jerusalem would rather live in Israel than in a future Palestine, though they support the establishment of a Palestinian state. This report does more to prove that the polling results are accurate in the real world, which you seem to prefer shielding yourself from. Exactly what do you think the Arabs in East Jerusalem should call themselves if not Palestinian? And where do you suggest they go since you don't think they should remain in Jerusalem?

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Re: Mahmoud Abbas and Fatah declare all of Israel to be Palestine, in new map on official logo

Posted by Mitch45 on Mon Dec 31 08:55:45 2012, in response to Re: Mahmoud Abbas and Fatah declare all of Israel to be Palestine, in new map on official logo, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Dec 31 04:08:51 2012.

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I wonder how many Israeli Arabs would move to a Palestinian state once it is established. I'll bet a good number will stay in Israel.

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Re: Mahmoud Abbas and Fatah declare all of Israel to be Palestine, in new map on official logo

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Dec 31 09:43:03 2012, in response to Re: Mahmoud Abbas and Fatah declare all of Israel to be Palestine, in new map on official logo, posted by Mitch45 on Mon Dec 31 08:55:45 2012.

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I'll bet a good number will stay in Israel.

Surveys indicate this is likely, and Israeli-Arabs are often pissed when it is proposed that their cities and towns would be part of a future Palestine.

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Re: Mahmoud Abbas and Fatah declare all of Israel to be Palestine, in new map on official logo

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Dec 31 12:05:07 2012, in response to Re: Mahmoud Abbas and Fatah declare all of Israel to be Palestine, in new map on official logo, posted by Mitch45 on Mon Dec 31 08:55:45 2012.

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That's because they don't lie about who they are, unlike the "Palestinians".

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Re: Mahmoud Abbas and Fatah declare all of Israel to be Palestine, in new map on official logo

Posted by orange blossom special on Mon Dec 31 21:47:33 2012, in response to Re: Mahmoud Abbas and Fatah declare all of Israel to be Palestine, in new map on official logo, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Dec 31 09:43:03 2012.

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"Surveys indicate this is likely, and Israeli-Arabs are often pissed when it is proposed that their cities and towns would be part of a future Palestine. "

Doesn't matter, you folks are arguing about stuff that was in the news 5 years ago.
They're pissed in every city, The christians are pissed at clinton, the Bedouins are pissed at Israel for the Sinai and Gaza, and every other nation in the region is pissed at every border that exist.
Doesn't stop the Europeans and Americans from patting themselves on the back and won't stop the next group to get pissed off.

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Re: Mahmoud Abbas and Fatah declare all of Israel to be Palestine, in new map on official logo

Posted by kew gardens teleport on Tue Jan 1 04:25:29 2013, in response to Re: Mahmoud Abbas and Fatah declare all of Israel to be Palestine, in new map on official logo, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Dec 31 12:05:07 2012.

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The sad thing is that population transfers are probably the only way there is going to ever be peace.

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Re: Mahmoud Abbas and Fatah declare all of Israel to be Palestine, in new map on official logo

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 22 15:54:43 2013, in response to Re: Mahmoud Abbas and Fatah declare all of Israel to be Palestine, in new map on official logo, posted by RockParkMan on Sun Dec 30 16:25:26 2012.

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Oh yes, you still believe that bullhockey leftist propaganda about Protestants. So it's not important to you that Fatah did this, rocKKKparKKKnazi? It's the leftists in the USA that support Fatah, rocKKKparKKKnazi, not the USA's conservatives. Thanks for demonstrating that you want Israel to be destroyed—again.

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Re: Mahmoud Abbas and Fatah declare all of Israel to be Palestine, in new map on official logo

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Sep 1 12:51:05 2025, in response to Mahmoud Abbas and Fatah declare all of Israel to be Palestine, in new map on official logo, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Dec 30 04:27:07 2012.

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Re: Mahmoud Abbas and Fatah declare all of Israel to be Palestine, in new map on official logo

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Sep 1 13:41:42 2025, in response to Re: Mahmoud Abbas and Fatah declare all of Israel to be Palestine, in new map on official logo, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Sep 1 12:51:05 2025.

So Palestein in its modern form only dates back to 2012.
Thank you for the bump.

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Re: Mahmoud Abbas and Fatah declare all of Israel to be Palestine, in new map on official logo

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Sep 1 13:42:03 2025, in response to Re: Mahmoud Abbas and Fatah declare all of Israel to be Palestine, in new map on official logo, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Sep 1 13:41:42 2025.

Yeah; its modern form.

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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Sep 15 15:09:27 2025, in response to Re: Mahmoud Abbas and Fatah declare all of Israel to be Palestine, in new map on official logo, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Sep 1 13:42:03 2025.

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