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Lee Harvey Oswald was NYC Subway buff

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Aug 17 02:49:45 2025

Spent hours riding the NYC Subway when he lived in NYC.

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald was NYC Subway buff

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Sun Aug 17 03:06:27 2025, in response to Lee Harvey Oswald was NYC Subway buff, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Aug 17 02:49:45 2025.

So?

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald was NYC Subway buff

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Sun Aug 17 03:06:30 2025, in response to Lee Harvey Oswald was NYC Subway buff, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Aug 17 02:49:45 2025.

So?

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald was NYC Subway buff?

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Aug 17 04:26:42 2025, in response to Lee Harvey Oswald was NYC Subway buff, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Aug 17 02:49:45 2025.

Wrong forum.

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald was NYC Subway buff

Posted by Peter Rosa on Sun Aug 17 08:44:17 2025, in response to Lee Harvey Oswald was NYC Subway buff, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Aug 17 02:49:45 2025.

Fun fact: Oswald attended twelve different schools before dropping out at age 16.

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald was NYC Subway buff

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Aug 17 09:11:23 2025, in response to Lee Harvey Oswald was NYC Subway buff, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Aug 17 02:49:45 2025.

...and how do you know that??

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald was NYC Subway buff

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Aug 17 13:33:31 2025, in response to Lee Harvey Oswald was NYC Subway buff, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Aug 17 02:49:45 2025.

If he had photos, slides, publications and attended fan trips then yes.

Otherwise riding the subway for hours doesn't necessarily make you a train buff.

Bill M.

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald was NYC Subway buff?

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Aug 17 13:38:27 2025, in response to Re: Lee Harvey Oswald was NYC Subway buff, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Aug 17 09:11:23 2025.

Google AI is apparently saying Oswald played truant from school and rode the subway very frequently, in his early teens. Doesn't make him any kind of "subway buff" though, which must be why #37 didn't post about it in the main forum.

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald was NYC Subway buff

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Aug 17 13:46:55 2025, in response to Re: Lee Harvey Oswald was NYC Subway buff, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Aug 17 13:33:31 2025.

If you voluntarily ride for enjoyment and familiarize yourself with the system studying maps, then what does that make him?

Rail fan?

Level 1 buff?

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald was NYC Subway buff?

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Aug 17 13:47:26 2025, in response to Re: Lee Harvey Oswald was NYC Subway buff, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Aug 17 13:33:31 2025.

pwn3d

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald was NYC Subway buff

Posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Aug 17 14:11:11 2025, in response to Lee Harvey Oswald was NYC Subway buff, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Aug 17 02:49:45 2025.

I don’t know it that qualifies as a buff.
Probably just a lunatic.

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald was NYC Subway buff

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Aug 17 14:24:31 2025, in response to Re: Lee Harvey Oswald was NYC Subway buff, posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Aug 17 14:11:11 2025.

If your son told you that he is going to ride the A train from Far Rockaway to 207 for fun, what would that make him?

Riding for fun is definitely a level of buffery. Maybe not the level of buff Bill Newkirk has in mind, but definitely on the spectrum of buffery.

Oswald was young when living in NYC. He didn't have the finances to buff out on books and the subway.

Oswald liked buses too. He shot at General Walker and escaped by taking the bus home.

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald was NYC Subway buff

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Sun Aug 17 14:44:45 2025, in response to Re: Lee Harvey Oswald was NYC Subway buff, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Aug 17 14:24:31 2025.

Link or fink?

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald was NYC Subway buff

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sun Aug 17 15:04:01 2025, in response to Lee Harvey Oswald was NYC Subway buff, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Aug 17 02:49:45 2025.

DID HE LIKE TO RIDE THE RAIL FAN WINDOW UP FRONT

HAVE ANY INFO ON THAT ?

LOL

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald was NYC Subway buff

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Aug 17 16:54:02 2025, in response to Re: Lee Harvey Oswald was NYC Subway buff, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sun Aug 17 15:04:01 2025.

Honestly I don't know if he did the railfan window.

Let's say that he did. If someone is joy riding and has his nose pressed up to the railfan window, I would say he is a buff.

When Oswald was killed and officials investigated him, they found NYC Subway maps in his home or storage unit, and looked into it. They found out he liked riding trains and saved a few maps.

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald was NYC Subway buff

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sun Aug 17 16:58:32 2025, in response to Re: Lee Harvey Oswald was NYC Subway buff, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Aug 17 16:54:02 2025.

SO HER JUST SAT DOWN TOOK A SEAT AND RIDE .............

???????????

OK

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald was NYC Subway buff

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Aug 17 17:01:04 2025, in response to Re: Lee Harvey Oswald was NYC Subway buff, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sun Aug 17 16:58:32 2025.

I doubt it. Most likely did some railfanning at the window.

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald was NYC Subway buff

Posted by Peter Rosa on Sun Aug 17 21:11:41 2025, in response to Re: Lee Harvey Oswald was NYC Subway buff, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Aug 17 14:24:31 2025.

Oswald never learned how to drive a car. After the assassination 17 separate witnesses came forward and said that he had been driving around South Texas several weeks earlier asking about jobs. While there was ample evidence conclusively placing him in Dallas at the time, the fact that he couldn’t drive meant that this man must have been someone else.

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald was NYC Subway buff

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Aug 17 21:23:48 2025, in response to Re: Lee Harvey Oswald was NYC Subway buff, posted by Peter Rosa on Sun Aug 17 21:11:41 2025.

Exactly.

I refuse to believe that he took a shot at General Walker, then waited at the bus stop and took the bus home.

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald was NYC Subway buff

Posted by Peter Rosa on Sun Aug 17 21:26:03 2025, in response to Lee Harvey Oswald was NYC Subway buff, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Aug 17 02:49:45 2025.

Oswald’s timeline in New York. Note: Marguerite is his nutjob mother, John is his older half brother John Pic, Robert is his other half brother Robert Pic, and the Murrets refer to his Mob-connected uncle Dutz Murret.

August, 1952: Marguerite and LHO go to New York City and move in with John, now
married, and his family on E. 92nd Street.

August, 1952: LHO enrolls at Trinity Evangelical Lutheran School.

August, 1952: LHO threatens Mrs. Pic with a pocket knife, and the Oswalds are asked to
leave.

September, 1952: The Oswalds move to Sheridan Avenue in the Bronx, and LHO enters
P.S. 117, where he is frequently absent from classes. Marguerite is employed by
Learner's Dress Shop.

January, 1953: The Oswalds move to East 179th Street. Truancy hearings are held
regarding LHO's absences.

February, 1953: The Pics visit the Oswalds.

March 12, 1953: A petition is filed by LHO's attendance officer.

March 23, 1953: LHO registers at school.

April, 1953: Marguerite is working at Martin's Department Store.

April 16, 1953: LHO is declared a truant and remanded to Youth House where he
receives a psychological evaluation.

May, 1953: Marguerite is working for a chain of hosiery shops.

May 7, 1953: After being released from Youth House, LHO returns to court and is placed
on probation.

May 10, 1953 (presumed): LHO receives a handout about Julius and Ethel Rosenberg
that begins his interest in Marxism.

July, 1953: Robert visits Marguerite and Lee.

September 14, 1953: LHO enters the eighth grade at P.S. 44.

September, 1953: Parole is extended in LHO’s truancy case until October 29th.

October, 1953: Parole is extended until November 19th.

November 19, 1953: The Oswalds appear in court, and parole is continued until January
28th.

January 4, 1954: A Big Brothers' caseworker visits the Oswalds.

January 9, 1954 (app.): The Oswalds move to New Orleans and stay with the Murrets on
French Street. The Oswalds would later live on Saint Mary Street in two different
apartments.


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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald was NYC Subway buff

Posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Aug 17 21:33:42 2025, in response to Re: Lee Harvey Oswald was NYC Subway buff, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Aug 17 14:24:31 2025.

If he said that I’d say be careful but I wouldn’t think it’s a buff action. To be a buff of anything I think you’d need a level of intimate knowledge that the casual fan doesn’t have which would require research and study.

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald was NYC Subway buff

Posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Aug 17 21:40:03 2025, in response to Re: Lee Harvey Oswald was NYC Subway buff, posted by Peter Rosa on Sun Aug 17 21:26:03 2025.

What is the source of this information?

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald was NYC Subway buff

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 17 21:56:57 2025, in response to Re: Lee Harvey Oswald was NYC Subway buff, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Aug 17 21:23:48 2025.

He tried to take a bus home (to the boarding house) after the Kennedy Assassination!

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald was NYC Subway buff

Posted by Peter Rosa on Sun Aug 17 22:04:30 2025, in response to Re: Lee Harvey Oswald was NYC Subway buff, posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Aug 17 21:40:03 2025.

https://www.jfk-assassination.net/parnell/chrono.htm

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald was NYC Subway buff

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 17 22:15:12 2025, in response to Re: Lee Harvey Oswald was NYC Subway buff, posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Aug 17 21:40:03 2025.

Warren Commission report.

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald was NYC Subway buff

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Aug 18 01:29:42 2025, in response to Re: Lee Harvey Oswald was NYC Subway buff, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Aug 17 17:01:04 2025.

I KNOW I DID

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald was NYC Subway buff

Posted by AlM on Mon Aug 18 07:46:32 2025, in response to Re: Lee Harvey Oswald was NYC Subway buff, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Aug 17 21:23:48 2025.

What else would he do? He didn't have a car, and didn't have enough money to be in the habit of taking taxis.



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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald was NYC Subway buff

Posted by Catfish 44 on Mon Aug 18 22:23:23 2025, in response to Re: Lee Harvey Oswald was NYC Subway buff, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 17 22:15:12 2025.

That’s great. I am too familiar with some of those locations it’s good to be able to prove it.

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald was NYC Subway buff

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 18 22:47:45 2025, in response to Re: Lee Harvey Oswald was NYC Subway buff, posted by AlM on Mon Aug 18 07:46:32 2025.

But to believe he escaped the General Walker shooting by bus is interesting.

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald was NYC Subway buff

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 18 22:48:42 2025, in response to Re: Lee Harvey Oswald was NYC Subway buff, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 17 21:56:57 2025.

True.

But witnesses at the Walker incident said a car fled.

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald was NYC Subway buff

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 18 23:31:43 2025, in response to Re: Lee Harvey Oswald was NYC Subway buff, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 18 22:47:45 2025.

It's not about belief, it's what happened.

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald was NYC Subway buff

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 18 23:32:32 2025, in response to Re: Lee Harvey Oswald was NYC Subway buff, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 18 22:48:42 2025.

Witnesses to the Walker incident said they saw a car driving away. Means nothing. Cars drive away all the time.

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald was NYC Subway buff

Posted by AlM on Tue Aug 19 07:39:32 2025, in response to Re: Lee Harvey Oswald was NYC Subway buff, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 18 23:32:32 2025.

One would be (mildly) interested in finding out why they say he took a bus. Months later, did someone say "Oh yeah, him, I saw him get on a bus after the Walker incident." That would indicate a very good memory, which most witnesses don't have.




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