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National language dominates Senate debate

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 19 04:47:35 2006

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OK ... lemme try to get a grip on this ... The economy is on the "slippery slope" so says GREENSPAN yesterday, Iraq continues to be a mess, the Taliban are pretty much BACK in power in our "successful war, disregard all that heroin," salaries and jobs dropping like flies, scandal out the wazoo and hey ... "how about that GAS?" and the republican congress is doing WHAT(!) now that they've done their constitutional amendment to wipe out gay marriage? This?!?!

What the HELL do we have a GOVERNMENT sucking our wallets dry if THIS is what we're paying them for?!?! :(


National language dominates Senate debate

By SUZANNE GAMBOA, Associated Press
Last updated: 4:31 a.m., Friday, May 19, 2006

WASHINGTON -- Yes, we speak only English here.

Maybe.

Whether English is America's "national language" or its national "common and unifying language" was a question that dominated the Senate immigration debate Thursday.

The Senate first voted 63-34 to make English the national language after lawmakers who led the effort said it would promote national unity.

But critics argued the move would prevent limited English speakers from getting language assistance required by an executive order enacted under President Clinton. So the Senate also voted 58-39 to make English the nation's "common and unifying language."

"We are trying to make an assimilation statement," said Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., one of two dozen senators who voted for both English proposals.

Sen. Jim Inhofe, R-Okla., disputed charges that making English the national language was racist or aimed at Spanish speakers. Eleven Democrats voted for his measure.

Sen. Ken Salazar, D-Colo, offered the alternative. The only Republican to vote solely for Salazar's "common and unifying" language option was Sen. Pete Domenici of New Mexico, whose home state's constitution prohibits discrimination on basis of inability to speak, read or write English or Spanish.

Both provisions will be included in an immigration bill the Senate is expected to pass and send to conference with the House, where differences will be resolved.

President Bush, who often peppers his speeches with Spanish words and phrases, had little to say about the Senate votes while visiting the Arizona-Mexico border. "The Senate needs to get the bill out," the president said.

Bush toured an unfortified section of the border in the Arizona desert Thursday, where he endorsed using fences and other barriers to cut down on illegal crossings. The Senate on Wednesday voted to put 370 miles of fences on the border.

Bush's border visit was part of his efforts to win over conservatives balking at his support for a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants and a new guest worker program.

Bush asked Congress for $1.9 billion Thursday to pay for 1,000 Border Patrol agents and the temporary deployment of up to 6,000 National Guard troops to states along the Mexican border.

His request was not warmly welcomed by some key senators.

Sen. Judd Gregg, chairman of the Senate Budget Committee, delayed a vote on Bush's promotion of U.S. Trade Representative Rob Portman to White House budget director to show his displeasure. He said Bush's request calls for using money for proposed for border security equipment to pay for operational exercises.

Sen. Robert Byrd, the Senate Appropriations Committee's top Democrat, complained that he had offered amendments providing for border security nine times since 2002, only to have the Bush administration reject them as extraneous spending or expanding the size of government.

"If we had spent that money beginning in 2002, we would not be calling on the National Guard today," Byrd said.

A bipartisan coalition of lawmakers supporting the immigration measure continued to hold through the week. The group was able to reverse an amendment that denied temporary workers the ability to petition on their own for legal permanent residency, a step to citizenship.

Bill supporters restored the self-petitioning with the condition the federal government certifies American workers were unavailable to fill the jobs held or sought by the temporary workers.

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Freaking MTA has more brains! :(

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Re: National language dominates Senate debate

Posted by Fred G on Fri May 19 08:52:00 2006, in response to National language dominates Senate debate, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 19 04:47:35 2006.

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I'm glad to see they're focused on something earth-shattering for a change. Say, chum, you gonna eat all those "Freedom Fries"?

your pal,
Fred

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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri May 19 09:16:27 2006, in response to National language dominates Senate debate, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 19 04:47:35 2006.

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Well, I'm tired of hearing spanish, getting bi-lingual directions on everything from ads to foods, and having to press options on everything to select my language.

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Re: National language dominates Senate debate

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri May 19 13:19:59 2006, in response to National language dominates Senate debate, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 19 04:47:35 2006.

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How can you remain upright when you "spin" that hard?

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Re: National language dominates Senate debate

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 19 13:24:28 2006, in response to Re: National language dominates Senate debate, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri May 19 09:16:27 2006.

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Para Español, oprima numero dos . . .

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Re: National language dominates Senate debate

Posted by American Pig on Fri May 19 16:22:05 2006, in response to National language dominates Senate debate, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 19 04:47:35 2006.

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It's about time.

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Re: National language dominates Senate debate

Posted by Clayton on Fri May 19 19:21:00 2006, in response to Re: National language dominates Senate debate, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri May 19 09:16:27 2006.

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I don't understand the bi-lingual signage situation. A sign will be up in English, such as "Bathroom out of order", and the equivalent will be posted in Spanish. Now, if I can SOMEHOW decipher the Spanish on the sign, something tells me that Spanish-speaking people can SOMEHOW decipher the English. This is America!

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Re: National language dominates Senate debate

Posted by The Port of Authority on Fri May 19 19:28:51 2006, in response to Re: National language dominates Senate debate, posted by American Pig on Fri May 19 16:22:05 2006.

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IAWTP

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Re: National language dominates Senate debate

Posted by Rail Blue on Fri May 19 19:34:36 2006, in response to National language dominates Senate debate, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 19 04:47:35 2006.

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The Senate first voted 63-34 to make English the national language

Does this mean that they'll learn to spell "aluminium"? ;-)

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Posted by Train Dude on Fri May 19 19:39:29 2006, in response to National language dominates Senate debate, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 19 04:47:35 2006.

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Frankly, I think all bi-lingual signs should be in chinese. If you can't read chinese you are SUM DUM FUK.

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Re: National language dominates Senate debate

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 19 20:40:15 2006, in response to Re: National language dominates Senate debate, posted by Rail Blue on Fri May 19 19:34:36 2006.

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The "nukular amendment" was defeated. :)

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Re: National language dominates Senate debate

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 19 20:44:13 2006, in response to Re: National language dominates Senate debate, posted by Train Dude on Fri May 19 19:39:29 2006.

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Heh. :)

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Re: National language dominates Senate debate

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 19 20:48:08 2006, in response to Re: National language dominates Senate debate, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri May 19 13:19:59 2006.

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Through the miracle of centripetal force and gyroscopes, just like riding a segway ... no wait, bad example. :)


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Re: National language dominates Senate debate

Posted by The Port of Authority on Fri May 19 20:54:08 2006, in response to Re: National language dominates Senate debate, posted by Train Dude on Fri May 19 19:39:29 2006.

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我会念中文,你呢?

(If the above doesn't appear, please let me know.)

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Re: National language dominates Senate debate

Posted by Train Dude on Fri May 19 20:57:16 2006, in response to Re: National language dominates Senate debate, posted by The Port of Authority on Fri May 19 20:54:08 2006.

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not in that font, it doesn't

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Re: National language dominates Senate debate

Posted by The Port of Authority on Fri May 19 20:59:19 2006, in response to Re: National language dominates Senate debate, posted by Train Dude on Fri May 19 20:57:16 2006.

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Oh well. They were supposed to be Chinese characters.

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Re: National language dominates Senate debate

Posted by Train Dude on Fri May 19 21:09:37 2006, in response to Re: National language dominates Senate debate, posted by The Port of Authority on Fri May 19 20:59:19 2006.

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I appreciate the effort

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Re: National language dominates Senate debate

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 19 21:34:49 2006, in response to Re: National language dominates Senate debate, posted by The Port of Authority on Fri May 19 20:54:08 2006.

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I see it. You need the character support on your computer, though.

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Re: National language dominates Senate debate

Posted by Rail Blue on Fri May 19 22:08:33 2006, in response to Re: National language dominates Senate debate, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 19 20:40:15 2006.

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The "nukular amendment" was defeated. :)

A pox on their throats! ;-)

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Re: National language dominates Senate debate

Posted by Rail Blue on Fri May 19 22:10:31 2006, in response to Re: National language dominates Senate debate, posted by Train Dude on Fri May 19 19:39:29 2006.

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Ni shi bai chi. Wo xi wang ni man man si, dan kuai dian xia di yu!

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Re: National language dominates Senate debate

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 19 22:15:35 2006, in response to Re: National language dominates Senate debate, posted by Rail Blue on Fri May 19 22:08:33 2006.

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They don't seem to have a plan for "pox" either ... they're still trying to get the votes to sprout wings for the "bird flew." :)

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Re: National language dominates Senate debate

Posted by Train Dude on Fri May 19 22:41:48 2006, in response to Re: National language dominates Senate debate, posted by Rail Blue on Fri May 19 22:10:31 2006.

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"Which means?" he asked reluctantly!

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Re: National language dominates Senate debate

Posted by Rail Blue on Fri May 19 23:26:47 2006, in response to Re: National language dominates Senate debate, posted by Train Dude on Fri May 19 22:41:48 2006.

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Something rather impolite in Chinese, I think.

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Re: National language dominates Senate debate

Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat May 20 14:30:39 2006, in response to Re: National language dominates Senate debate, posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 19 21:34:49 2006.

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I can see it, so I must have the font installed. What's the font name?

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Re: National language dominates Senate debate

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Mar 17 01:15:26 2025, in response to National language dominates Senate debate, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 19 04:47:35 2006.

Too bad you weren't around to watch Trump declare English to be the national language . . .

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