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Re: $83 million

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 31 12:53:54 2024, in response to Re: $83 million, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 30 21:53:54 2024.

Obviously I understand the concept. However, I also know if Trump was bankrupt Jr would still be ordered to pay that amount, as it's all about TDS

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Re: $83 million

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 31 12:55:59 2024, in response to Re: $83 million, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 30 21:54:40 2024.

This is just your confirmation bias

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Re: $83 million

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 31 13:00:47 2024, in response to Re: $83 million, posted by AlM on Wed Jan 31 04:41:20 2024.

You like that one? Good! You TDS people are happy. In indifferent, BUT, see it for what it is

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Re: $83 million

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 31 13:03:10 2024, in response to Re: $83 million, posted by AlM on Wed Jan 31 04:42:18 2024.

Lo@lm!

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Re: $83 million

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 31 13:04:19 2024, in response to Re: $83 million, posted by 3-9 on Wed Jan 31 02:01:14 2024.

And in what country does one get punished for voicing an opinion?

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Re: $83 million, and E. Jean Carroll boasts about going “shopping” on MSNBC

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 31 13:05:26 2024, in response to Re: $83 million, and E. Jean Carroll boasts about going “shopping” on MSNBC, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 30 13:25:39 2024.

Trump MUST be ruined and punished for running!!

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Re: $83 million

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 31 13:33:35 2024, in response to Re: $83 million, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 31 12:53:54 2024.

Kendall would not have to pay that, the judgement isn’t against him.

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Re: $83 million

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 31 13:34:33 2024, in response to Re: $83 million, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 31 12:55:59 2024.

“confirmation bias” doesn’t mean what you think it means.

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Re: $83 million, and E. Jean Carroll boasts about going “shopping” on MSNBC

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 31 13:35:45 2024, in response to Re: $83 million, and E. Jean Carroll boasts about going “shopping” on MSNBC, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 31 13:05:26 2024.

Yes, he should.

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Re: $83 million

Posted by mcorivervsaf on Wed Jan 31 14:04:35 2024, in response to Re: $83 million, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Jan 28 17:39:33 2024.

It’s also a distraction, taking the attention away from a REAL criminal, pretending to be a leader in the White House.

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Re: $83 million

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 31 14:22:29 2024, in response to Re: $83 million, posted by mcorivervsaf on Wed Jan 31 14:04:35 2024.



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Re: $83 million

Posted by bingbong on Wed Jan 31 14:28:41 2024, in response to Re: $83 million, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 30 21:54:40 2024.

Every day we don't hear anything from him about her proves this worked.

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Re: $83 million

Posted by mcorivervsaf on Wed Jan 31 14:41:32 2024, in response to Re: $83 million, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 31 14:22:29 2024.

Yeah, keep using that tired, old image.

Meanwhile, no one’s laughing at high inflation & taxes.

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Re: $83 million

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 31 14:50:41 2024, in response to Re: $83 million, posted by mcorivervsaf on Wed Jan 31 14:41:32 2024.

What taxes?

Inflation is way down from the immediate post-Trump inflation.

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Re: $83 million

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Jan 31 17:38:24 2024, in response to Re: $83 million, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 30 20:00:31 2024.

Thats what I dont get. How could a major public figure and media star go into a high end department store with security (both his and the stores) body guards, employees and customers all around him looking to get autographs and selfies do the deed he was accused of doing? If he just wanted to get laid, just take any bimbo across the street to the hotel he owns and presto, no fuss no muss. Why use a dept store restroom for all the world to see? Now I'm hearing that the Bergdorf Goodman employees who were working that day had a "gag order" instituted once the story broke as to not to say anything to the media about Trump. Why is that? That could have went both ways as to verify or deny the story. But no. They were told to keep your mouth shut and go home in as many words.
This story doesn't make sense, strictly in my opinion. Just have to wait and see how the appeal(s) go.

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Re: $83 million

Posted by AlM on Wed Jan 31 17:45:23 2024, in response to Re: $83 million, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Jan 31 17:38:24 2024.

Appeals don't address matters of fact. The prior jury found that a preponderance of the evidence indicated that Trump defamed Carroll and as an aside that he had sexually assaulted her.

This whole thing is entirely due to Trump being an arrogant asshole and not following Clinton's path of just issuing a simple denial.




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Re: $83 million, and E. Jean Carroll boasts about going “shopping” on MSNBC

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 31 17:48:09 2024, in response to Re: $83 million, and E. Jean Carroll boasts about going “shopping” on MSNBC, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 31 13:35:45 2024.

He's gonna win, barring shens. I've resigned myself to it.

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Re: $83 million

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 31 17:51:44 2024, in response to Re: $83 million, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 31 13:34:33 2024.

I know what it means...give me some credit.And yes, you are comfortable with everything happening to him (making him a martyr in the process) because you don't like him.

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Re: $83 million

Posted by AlM on Wed Jan 31 18:03:17 2024, in response to Re: $83 million, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Jan 31 17:38:24 2024.

One big self-inflicted problem is that Trump called her accusations a hoax. He can't possibly prove that. Even if he really never met her, perhaps she just remembered wrong.

By calling it a hoax, he damages her reputation by saying she is a fraud and not just someone with a faulty memory. If he had just stuck to his lawyer saying "we deny this these events ever happened and have no further comments" like Clinton did, he would have been fine.



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Re: $83 million

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 31 18:10:46 2024, in response to Re: $83 million, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Jan 31 17:38:24 2024.

They didn’t have selfies in the 1990s.

He wasn’t as big a celebrity in the 1990s. People knew who he was and he would have been eyeballed at least by people, certainly, but this was in Bergdorf’s which already has a high end clientele who would have been less likely to be fazed by seeing him. Plus, this was allegedly in the dressing room, so a private area where no one would have seen anything meaningful.

He didn’t just want to get laid, this guy is allegedly a sexual predator who just wanted to get his way all the time.

I don’t know about the gag order, that is interesting. Source?

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Re: $83 million, and E. Jean Carroll boasts about going “shopping” on MSNBC

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 31 18:12:13 2024, in response to Re: $83 million, and E. Jean Carroll boasts about going “shopping” on MSNBC, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 31 17:48:09 2024.

I haven’t, and I will fight tooth and nail against it.

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Re: $83 million

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 31 18:13:32 2024, in response to Re: $83 million, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 31 17:51:44 2024.

No, you don’t, because you’re not using it correctly.

And yes, I absolutely am happy with anything bad that happens to him. Remember that I wished that he died of COVID.

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Re: $83 million, and E. Jean Carroll boasts about going “shopping” on MSNBC

Posted by bingbong on Wed Jan 31 18:18:43 2024, in response to Re: $83 million, and E. Jean Carroll boasts about going “shopping” on MSNBC, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 31 18:12:13 2024.

Latest Quinnipiac polls shows President Biden with a 6 point lead. It's a start. It's outside the margin of error.

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Re: $83 million, and E. Jean Carroll boasts about going “shopping” on MSNBC

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Wed Jan 31 18:22:25 2024, in response to Re: $83 million, and E. Jean Carroll boasts about going “shopping” on MSNBC, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 31 18:12:13 2024.

Figures

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Re: $83 million, and E. Jean Carroll boasts about going “shopping” on MSNBC

Posted by mtk52983 on Wed Jan 31 18:43:11 2024, in response to Re: $83 million, and E. Jean Carroll boasts about going “shopping” on MSNBC, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 31 17:48:09 2024.

Trump losing does not mean shens occurred.

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Re: $83 million, and E. Jean Carroll boasts about going “shopping” on MSNBC

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 31 19:22:57 2024, in response to Re: $83 million, and E. Jean Carroll boasts about going “shopping” on MSNBC, posted by bingbong on Wed Jan 31 18:18:43 2024.

Polls mean nothing, but take a gander at today's Bloomberg article about it.

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Re: $83 million

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 31 19:27:43 2024, in response to Re: $83 million, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 31 18:10:46 2024.

Boys will be boys, and women will always be their toys!

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Re: $83 million

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 31 19:30:25 2024, in response to Re: $83 million, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 31 18:13:32 2024.

You favor and agree with what has happened to him. You think he deserved that ridiculous payment he has to give.

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Re: $83 million

Posted by AlM on Wed Jan 31 19:32:25 2024, in response to Re: $83 million, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 31 19:27:43 2024.

And when the boys get caught, they have to pay.



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Re: $83 million

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Jan 31 20:04:33 2024, in response to Re: $83 million, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 31 18:13:32 2024.

I remember that. I also said that you have a black heart for wishing someone you disagree with dead and not to just go away or wait until the voters send him home. Attitudes like that remind me of Stalin, Hitler or maybe Mussolini. Toss in Kin Jung Un for good measure.

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Re: $83 million

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 31 20:08:01 2024, in response to Re: $83 million, posted by AlM on Wed Jan 31 19:32:25 2024.

Nah, it's a man's world!

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Re: $83 million, and E. Jean Carroll boasts about going “shopping” on MSNBC

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jan 31 20:36:24 2024, in response to Re: $83 million, and E. Jean Carroll boasts about going “shopping” on MSNBC, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 31 17:48:09 2024.

Resigned? So you don't want the country to make a comeback?

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Re: $83 million

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 31 21:18:08 2024, in response to Re: $83 million, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Jan 31 20:04:33 2024.

None of those people ever just wished anyone dead, they actually killed them. It’s not even close.

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Re: $83 million

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 31 21:18:38 2024, in response to Re: $83 million, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 31 19:30:25 2024.

Yes, but that’s not just because I hate and fear him.

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Re: $83 million

Posted by 3-9 on Thu Feb 1 08:41:01 2024, in response to Re: $83 million, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Jan 31 20:04:33 2024.

wishing someone you disagree with dead and not to just go away or wait until the voters send him home

Trouble is, the voters sent him home, but he's not going away and he's trying again.

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Re: $83 million

Posted by 3-9 on Thu Feb 1 08:44:15 2024, in response to Re: $83 million, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 31 13:04:19 2024.

Just about every country with a functioning government will punish someone who voices an opinion in a way that does someone harm. If he wants to avoid this shit, voice his opinions in private.

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Re: $83 million

Posted by AlM on Thu Feb 1 09:43:34 2024, in response to Re: $83 million, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 31 21:18:08 2024.

It's more like those were people whom one could validly and reasonably wish dead when they were still alive.


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Re: $83 million

Posted by AlM on Thu Feb 1 09:47:04 2024, in response to Re: $83 million, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 31 13:04:19 2024.

Trump was not punished for voicing an opinion. Trump was punished by the civil court for recklessly making assertions of fact that the jury found (a) to be false and (b) to have caused financial harm to others.



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Re: $83 million

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Feb 1 10:10:46 2024, in response to Re: $83 million, posted by 3-9 on Thu Feb 1 08:41:01 2024.

Then they'll just have to try and send him home again. If he loses this time round, I believe he'll get the message. But it looks (so far) like this time around that he'll be the undisputed winner, unless Michelle My Belle replaces Joe as the nominee. A lot can happen between now and then. Voters should realize that a vote for Biden is a vote for Harris. Aint no way Biden will complete another full four year term.

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Re: $83 million

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 1 10:36:01 2024, in response to Re: $83 million, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Feb 1 10:10:46 2024.

No, he won’t. He’ll never get the message. He’ll try to steal the election again.

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Re: $83 million

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 1 10:38:17 2024, in response to Re: $83 million, posted by AlM on Thu Feb 1 09:43:34 2024.

Why can’t I wish someone dead if he wants to destroy our republic?

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Re: $83 million

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Feb 1 11:23:11 2024, in response to Re: $83 million, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 1 10:38:17 2024.

I believe in your heart of hearts that that is impossible for any one person to do. "Destroy our republic" would require a Coup D Etat that would need military organizational backup. That would never happen. You could get all the MAGA folks, Trump supporters/voters even the knuckleheads that stormed the capital on Jan 6 together and they could never pull that off.
To paraphrase Donna Summer, Our country will survive ,no matter who's in the White House.

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Re: $83 million

Posted by AlM on Thu Feb 1 11:36:36 2024, in response to Re: $83 million, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Feb 1 10:10:46 2024.

Aint no way Biden will complete another full four year term.

You exaggerate greatly.

Under a current Society of Actuaries mortality table, an 81 year old white collar male born in 1942 has a 72% chance of living to age 86.

This does NOT account for Biden very likely being in better than average health for an 81 year old.


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Re: $83 million

Posted by AlM on Thu Feb 1 11:39:04 2024, in response to Re: $83 million, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Feb 1 11:23:11 2024.

I agree he can't destroy the Republic because he only has 4 years. People like Orban and Erdogan have taken much longer than that.

But he can do a hell of a lot of damage in 4 years. And if perchance he gets followed by 8 years of a fascist like Ramaswamy, the Republic will be destroyed.



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Re: $83 million

Posted by 3-9 on Thu Feb 1 12:10:29 2024, in response to Re: $83 million, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Feb 1 11:23:11 2024.

There are a lot of military people who are Trumpers. Not to mention there a lot of politicians who bend over backwards for Trump, and the voters to keep them in office.

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Re: $83 million

Posted by AlM on Thu Feb 1 12:16:45 2024, in response to Re: $83 million, posted by 3-9 on Thu Feb 1 12:10:29 2024.

Fortunately at the moment the top levels of the military are conservatives who strongly support the Constitution. 12 years of fascism-desiring rule could change that, but 4 years likely can't.



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Re: $83 million

Posted by AlM on Thu Feb 1 12:17:05 2024, in response to Re: $83 million, posted by 3-9 on Thu Feb 1 12:10:29 2024.

Fortunately at the moment the top levels of the military are conservatives who strongly support the Constitution. 12 years of fascism-desiring rule could change that, but 4 years likely can't.



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Re: $83 million, and E. Jean Carroll boasts about going “shopping” on MSNBC

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Feb 1 12:19:53 2024, in response to Re: $83 million, and E. Jean Carroll boasts about going “shopping” on MSNBC, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jan 31 20:36:24 2024.

He's gonna get major pushback for everything he wants to do, just like last time.

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Re: $83 million

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Feb 1 12:22:35 2024, in response to Re: $83 million, posted by AlM on Thu Feb 1 11:39:04 2024.

He already had 4 years to "do a hell of a lot of damage" and were still here. And it seems now that he'll get 4 more years.

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Re: $83 million

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Feb 1 12:25:31 2024, in response to Re: $83 million, posted by 3-9 on Thu Feb 1 12:10:29 2024.

"There are a lot of military people who are Trumpers."

Sure, My take is that they will vote for him. not participate in some kind of coup. That (a coup) would be a big bite on the hand that feeds them

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