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Posted by chicagoMotorman on Sat Sep 30 10:44:23 2023, in response to Re: I Am Not Panicking, posted by Edwards! on Sat Sep 30 08:29:23 2023. Including social media. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Sep 30 10:57:41 2023, in response to Re: I Am Not Panicking, posted by chicagoMotorman on Sat Sep 30 10:37:19 2023. No, Goebbels would be proud of whoever made that meme. |
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Posted by chicagoMotorman on Sat Sep 30 11:05:23 2023, in response to Re: I Am Not Panicking, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Sep 30 10:57:41 2023. OK, please explain. And don't you the media believe that the media for the most part is biased towards the left? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Sep 30 13:12:40 2023, in response to Re: I Am Not Panicking, posted by chicagoMotorman on Sat Sep 30 11:05:23 2023. Reality is biased towards the left because the right has lost its goddamn mind.What is there to explain? Fascists attack the media because they take politicians to task. They fail at that, a lot, but calling them a virus and calling for their destruction is what fascists do. |
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Posted by chicagoMotorman on Sat Sep 30 15:11:53 2023, in response to Re: I Am Not Panicking, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Sep 30 13:12:40 2023. Thank you for admitting your bias. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Sep 30 15:26:09 2023, in response to Re: I Am Not Panicking, posted by chicagoMotorman on Sat Sep 30 15:11:53 2023. You’re welcome. I am extremely biased against fascism and against supporting fascist viewpoints, advertently or inadvertently. |
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Posted by chicagoMotorman on Sat Sep 30 15:36:45 2023, in response to Re: I Am Not Panicking, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Sep 30 15:26:09 2023. I am against fascism and communism. Which are the same thing. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Sep 30 16:18:09 2023, in response to Re: I Am Not Panicking, posted by chicagoMotorman on Sat Sep 30 15:36:45 2023. They are not the same thing. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun Oct 1 11:00:18 2023, in response to Re: I Am Not Panicking, posted by chicagoMotorman on Sat Sep 30 15:36:45 2023. No, they are not. |
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Posted by chicagoMotorman on Sun Oct 1 12:26:47 2023, in response to Re: I Am Not Panicking, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Sep 30 16:18:09 2023. LIKE HELL THEY AIN'T! |
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Posted by chicagoMotorman on Sun Oct 1 12:26:57 2023, in response to Re: I Am Not Panicking, posted by bingbong on Sun Oct 1 11:00:18 2023. LIKE HELL THEY AIN'T! |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Sun Oct 1 12:30:51 2023, in response to Re: I Am Not Panicking, posted by chicagoMotorman on Sun Oct 1 12:26:47 2023. One can be a Fascist without being a Communist. A Communist has to be a Fascist. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Oct 1 12:31:38 2023, in response to Re: I Am Not Panicking, posted by chicagoMotorman on Sun Oct 1 12:26:47 2023. Communism: dictatorship with government ownership of the means of production. No oligarchs.Fascism: dictatorship with private ownership of the means of production. Lots of oligarchs. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Oct 1 12:34:15 2023, in response to Re: I Am Not Panicking, posted by mtk52983 on Sun Oct 1 12:30:51 2023. A Communist has to be a Fascist.A fascist country always has oligarchs with great private wealth. A truly communist country, like the Soviet Union under Stalin, does not. A country can be a mixture of both, like China today. |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Sun Oct 1 12:42:23 2023, in response to Re: I Am Not Panicking, posted by AlM on Sun Oct 1 12:34:15 2023. No. Fascism is a way of organizing a society in which a government ruled by a dictator controls the lives of the people and in which people are not allowed to disagree with the government. They may or may not be Communist, which is an economic philosophy. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Oct 1 12:59:15 2023, in response to Re: I Am Not Panicking, posted by mtk52983 on Sun Oct 1 12:30:51 2023. No. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Oct 1 13:00:46 2023, in response to Re: I Am Not Panicking, posted by mtk52983 on Sun Oct 1 12:42:23 2023. No, that’s totalitarianism. Communism and fascism are both totalitarian. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Oct 1 18:08:51 2023, in response to Re: I Am Not Panicking, posted by mtk52983 on Sun Oct 1 12:42:23 2023. Mussolini invented or coined the word Fascism and to some degree did allow some dissent unlike nazi Germany that arrested all dissenters and put them in concentration camps. Italy, while definitely a dictator uner Mussolini still had a monarchy which still did have a say in the government. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Oct 1 18:11:07 2023, in response to Re: I Am Not Panicking, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Oct 1 12:59:15 2023. Chicago was right when he said "like hell they ain't." They ain't the same thing. |
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Posted by Chicagomotorman on Sun Oct 1 18:30:59 2023, in response to Re: I Am Not Panicking, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Oct 1 18:11:07 2023. There is no difference between. Facism and communism. |
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Posted by Chicagomotorman on Sun Oct 1 18:31:50 2023, in response to Re: I Am Not Panicking, posted by Chicagomotorman on Sun Oct 1 18:30:59 2023. I didn't mean to capitalize fascism, my bad. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Oct 1 18:35:38 2023, in response to Re: I Am Not Panicking, posted by Chicagomotorman on Sun Oct 1 18:30:59 2023. Yes, there is. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Oct 1 18:36:14 2023, in response to Re: I Am Not Panicking, posted by Chicagomotorman on Sun Oct 1 18:30:59 2023. That's why private enterprise was permitted under Franco and not under Stalin. |
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Posted by Chicagomotorman on Sun Oct 1 18:38:17 2023, in response to Re: I Am Not Panicking, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Oct 1 18:35:38 2023. They are both left wing. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Oct 1 19:35:31 2023, in response to Re: I Am Not Panicking, posted by Chicagomotorman on Sun Oct 1 18:38:17 2023. Franco or Pinochet would have had you arrested for that statement. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Oct 1 20:05:30 2023, in response to Re: I Am Not Panicking, posted by Chicagomotorman on Sun Oct 1 18:38:17 2023. No, they're not. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun Oct 1 21:30:41 2023, in response to Re: I Am Not Panicking, posted by chicagoMotorman on Sun Oct 1 12:26:57 2023. They aren't. Simple fact. |
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Posted by chicagoMotorman on Mon Oct 2 08:14:52 2023, in response to Re: I Am Not Panicking, posted by bingbong on Sun Oct 1 21:30:41 2023. They are both leftist ideologies . |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Mon Oct 2 08:16:15 2023, in response to Re: I Am Not Panicking, posted by chicagoMotorman on Mon Oct 2 08:14:52 2023. No they are not. Fascism can be either whereas Communism is only leftist. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Oct 2 08:17:53 2023, in response to Re: I Am Not Panicking, posted by bingbong on Sun Oct 1 11:00:18 2023. Yes they are. Mussolini the "former communist" preached "social justice" and wealth redistribution up until the time of his sticky end. Pity you're too intellectually lazy to even bother to look stuff like this up. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Oct 2 09:28:03 2023, in response to Re: I Am Not Panicking, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Oct 2 08:17:53 2023. Major bitch slap |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Oct 2 09:41:02 2023, in response to Re: I Am Not Panicking, posted by chicagoMotorman on Mon Oct 2 08:14:52 2023. You're starting to sound like Olog now, and before you reply "thank you, I think", I didn't mean it as a complement!! |
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Posted by chicagoMotorman on Mon Oct 2 10:00:28 2023, in response to Re: I Am Not Panicking, posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Oct 2 09:41:02 2023. You really think there is, that big if any difference between fascism and communism? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 2 10:07:08 2023, in response to Re: I Am Not Panicking, posted by mtk52983 on Mon Oct 2 08:16:15 2023. Fascism can’t be either left or right, it is inherently right.You are confusing it with authoritarianism or totalitarianism, which are associated with both fascism and communism. |
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Posted by chicagoMotorman on Mon Oct 2 10:12:38 2023, in response to Re: I Am Not Panicking, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 2 10:07:08 2023. LMAO |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 2 10:15:36 2023, in response to Re: I Am Not Panicking, posted by chicagoMotorman on Mon Oct 2 10:12:38 2023. That’s your best answer? |
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Posted by chicagoMotorman on Mon Oct 2 10:34:50 2023, in response to Re: I Am Not Panicking, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 2 10:15:36 2023. Actually no. Your answer however is quite pathetic. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 2 11:02:04 2023, in response to Re: I Am Not Panicking, posted by chicagoMotorman on Mon Oct 2 10:34:50 2023. Why? It’s accurate. Just because you believe fascism is a leftist ideology doesn’t make it true. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Oct 2 11:12:33 2023, in response to Re: I Am Not Panicking, posted by chicagoMotorman on Mon Oct 2 10:00:28 2023. Franco, Mussolini, and Pinochet certainly thought so. The were proud to be Fascists and would have had you arrested for calling them Communists. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 2 11:14:34 2023, in response to Re: I Am Not Panicking, posted by AlM on Mon Oct 2 11:12:33 2023. Self-identification isn’t proof of anything.But the terms “left” or “right” are inherently arbitrary, but we use them for a meaningful purpose, and that form of classification places fascism on the right and communist on the left. But fascists and communists loathe each other so they would all be offended by the comparison. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Oct 2 11:21:05 2023, in response to Re: I Am Not Panicking, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 2 11:14:34 2023. Self-identification isn’t proof of anything.It's partial proof. And of course there were massive differences between Franco's regime and Stalin's or even Krushchev's. Or between Pinochet's and North Vietnam's. It does get harder to distinguish nowadays when no one except North Korea really has as good control of the means of production, little as they are, as Krushchev did. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 2 11:23:01 2023, in response to Re: I Am Not Panicking, posted by AlM on Mon Oct 2 11:21:05 2023. And remember the Sino-Soviet split. |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Oct 2 12:12:29 2023, in response to Re: I Am Not Panicking, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Oct 2 08:17:53 2023. It’s been explained why they’re not. I love seeing you so wrong in such grant fashion. The Pat on the back is even funnier |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Oct 2 13:59:41 2023, in response to Re: I Am Not Panicking, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 2 11:02:04 2023. It can be both, depending on who's doing it. |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Mon Oct 2 14:04:48 2023, in response to Re: I Am Not Panicking, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Oct 2 13:59:41 2023. Yes, fascism and communism can be both. However, one can be a fascist without being a communist. A fascist who believes everything should be controlled by the leader and the leader's close friends and screw everyone else is definitely not a communist. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Oct 2 14:17:48 2023, in response to Re: I Am Not Panicking, posted by mtk52983 on Mon Oct 2 14:04:48 2023. China seems to manage to be a bit of both at the same time. Russia is definitely now full fascist and not at all communist. |
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Posted by rkba on Mon Oct 2 17:13:48 2023, in response to Re: I Am Not Panicking, posted by bingbong on Sun Oct 1 21:30:41 2023. how are you still alive? |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Oct 2 17:20:44 2023, in response to Re: I Am Not Panicking, posted by rkba on Mon Oct 2 17:13:48 2023. HOW ARE YOU |
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Posted by chicagoMotorman on Mon Oct 2 17:29:34 2023, in response to Re: I Am Not Panicking, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Oct 2 17:20:44 2023. I'm fine how are you? |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Oct 2 17:31:41 2023, in response to Re: I Am Not Panicking, posted by chicagoMotorman on Mon Oct 2 17:29:34 2023. LOL |
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