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Re: Penny Indicted

Posted by Fred G on Sun May 14 15:55:48 2023, in response to Re: Penny Indicted, posted by Train Dude on Sat May 13 20:47:10 2023.

Speaking of stupid

https://www.rawstory.com/james-comer-informant/

“We can’t track down the informant!”

Narrator: the informant never existed

🤡🤡🤡

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Re: Penny Indicted

Posted by Fred G on Sun May 14 16:36:49 2023, in response to Re: Penny Indicted, posted by Train Dude on Sat May 13 20:47:10 2023.

Comer: Joe Biden leads a mafia family of corrupt int'l businesses!
Media: May we see the evidence?
Comer: We didn't find any. But whistleblowers showed us Hunter stuff that, if you use your imagination, is bad.
Media: May we speak to them?
Comer: Also no. We lost track of them.

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Re: Penny Indicted

Posted by AlM on Sun May 14 16:54:10 2023, in response to Re: Penny Indicted, posted by Fred G on Sun May 14 16:36:49 2023.

I think you have the story totally wrong.

There is a whistleblower, whom they are still in touch with, who has pointed them to an informant, who has a load of information on the Bidens.

They are still in contact with the whistleblower, but the informant has vanished.

You do realize how totally different this is from the way you claim it to be, don't you? :)



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Re: Penny Indicted

Posted by Train Dude on Sun May 14 18:51:36 2023, in response to Re: Penny Indicted, posted by Fred G on Sun May 14 15:55:48 2023.

That's a point for your team. There is a report in FBI possession that details much of what has been reported. The whistle-blower gave bthat information out. The FBI refused to turn that report over to the house. If I were the informant seeing that the highest ranks of government were covering for the president, I might disappear too.

Now there are now 170 suspicious activity reports related to biden family members and associates which document millions of dollars given by foreign nationals including Romania, China and Ukraine. If you are happy that the investigation is being stymied by the FBI and reluctant witnesses, so be it. I'm sure that you feel the 170 suspicious activity reports are errors. Your ethics and mine are no where in sync and we have nothing more to talk about.

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Re: Penny Indicted

Posted by Fred G on Sun May 14 20:15:41 2023, in response to Re: Penny Indicted, posted by AlM on Sun May 14 16:54:10 2023.

Oh, I always get that part reversed 😅

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Re: Penny Indicted

Posted by Train Dude on Sun May 14 20:30:59 2023, in response to Re: Penny Indicted, posted by AlM on Sun May 14 16:54:10 2023.

I'd love to see you on fire.

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Re: Penny Indicted

Posted by Fred G on Sun May 14 20:54:43 2023, in response to Re: Penny Indicted, posted by Train Dude on Sun May 14 18:51:36 2023.

Narcissistic comments. You don’t have any evidence so of course, something must be wrong with my sense of ethics. Wrong.
They spent a lot of time investigating this end to come up. Empty-handed is hilarious at best. They said they were going to work on inflation and other domestic issues.

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Re: Penny Indicted

Posted by Edwards! on Sun May 14 21:04:57 2023, in response to Re: Penny Indicted, posted by Chicagomotorman on Fri May 12 18:52:49 2023.

Reports from eyewitnesses confirmed that nobody was attacked in that subway car

The young man, however did act and say things that would be considered belligerent, but the focus was on Him Self, and not to attack the passengers.

He was hereby attacked by three riders,two holding him down, with one placing him in a "sleeper hold".

If One person was considered such a threat,then the appropriate response would have been to leave the train,or use the train line intercom system to alert the train crew, so the authorities can meet the train at the nearest station.

With the individual subdued,it became a situation that caused fear in the man holding him around the neck.

Because he attacked him from behind, the idea that the man could escape, and possibly cause him harm,grew even greater than his so called "heroism".
His intent was to cut off oxygen to his brain, rendering the young man unconscious.

However things didn't go as planned,as the restraint leveled against him prevented him from fighting back (both his arms were being held by two unnamed people).
There were passengers that were telling the men to let him go.
One person who said they were a nurse, even said if Penny continues, he would kill him.

They refused to relent...which lead to the young man's death.

Now, there are people calling Penny a hero... however, would these people still think that he was a hero if he killed someone in Their family?

How could a trained military veteran Not know how much pressure to apply, in a combat situation?

I'm trained.
I know how to fight.
Various holds, and other means, to either de-escalate..or put down a combatant.

You know how to apply the right amount of pressure to render someone unconscious, and incapacitate.
But because This became a"fight or flight" situation,all thoughts of training went out the window.
Fear took over.
Now a man is dead, and another man is free on bond.

The very fact that this was another black person,to die at the hands of a white person.. spoken to by the authorities.. and released.. back into society without scrutiny.. isn't a strange thing.

The murder of black people through out history is acceptable to the the privilege class because of media driven presentation of black people being counterproductive to Their social structure.

The same social structure They created, maintain, and push on the very backs of the marginalized.

If it weren't for Moral outrage,by both black and white people, the person responsible for the young man's murder would be forgotten with time,as these things are usually done.

It's amazing how he was able to post 100,000 dollars bond out asap.. and walk away.


I'm not expecting any right wing Maga hat wearing asshole Here to think.
They are incapable of using that much brain power, without having a stroke.

What I am saying to any rational thinker..is to put your self in that young man's shoes.
Suffering from mental illness, and bouts with depression..out in the streets.. asking for help on a train full of people..
Making a declaration of how you are giving up on your life..you don't care whether you live or die anymore.. because you are hungry, and going through an episode.

You know the rest of the story.

Even the governor of this state made a comment, that will definitely not get her re elected if it were up to her own party.
When the mayor of the city of New York spoke on the subject,he was called everything under the sun by every "morally outraged privilege packing asshole waving the Cultural War banner".

Especially Here.
Especially here.

Not surprised.





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Re: Penny Indicted

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun May 14 21:09:55 2023, in response to Re: Penny Indicted, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 14 14:20:17 2023.

I'm talking about the mail-in angle and how somewhere, somehow, the Democrats were going to utilize this to make sure they didn't have a repeat of 2016.

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Re: Penny Indicted

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun May 14 21:16:48 2023, in response to Re: Penny Indicted, posted by Edwards! on Sun May 14 21:04:57 2023.

Ok, terrific! (Opie and Anthony)

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Re: Penny Indicted

Posted by Edwards! on Sun May 14 21:19:31 2023, in response to Re: Penny Indicted, posted by Fred G on Sun May 14 16:36:49 2023.

I'm amazed that these people can even walk with that amount of bullshit they carry around.

The Democrat's were asked similar questions concerning Trump and his criminal actions.
Asked for proof...they came with receipts.

The "normalizing" of making accusations,big production and all.. with gaslighting as Proof,is phenomenal, to say in the least.
What's even crazier, is the media coverage... how dishonest coverage is now the New Entertainment..

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Re: Penny Indicted

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 14 22:53:00 2023, in response to Re: Penny Indicted, posted by Edwards! on Sun May 14 21:04:57 2023.

Young man? He was 30!

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Re: Penny Indicted

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 14 22:54:27 2023, in response to Re: Penny Indicted, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun May 14 21:09:55 2023.

Mail in voting has long been encouraged by both parties. It’s only in 2020 that the Trump Party discouraged it and demonized it.

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Re: Penny Indicted

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun May 14 23:03:45 2023, in response to Re: Penny Indicted, posted by Chicagomotorman on Fri May 12 18:52:49 2023.

Even threat of attack is justification. Don't let a perp strike first.

But the Left wants law abiding citizens to live in fear. They want everyone other than criminals to walk on egg shells.

If the marine hadn't struck first someone would have been attacked as promised.

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Re: Penny Indicted

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 14 23:37:29 2023, in response to Re: Penny Indicted, posted by LuchAAA on Sun May 14 23:03:45 2023.

Neely had priors. He had assaulted a 67-year-old woman. He would have done it again. The people in that train car were lucky they had Daniel Penny there. He should be given a medal.

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Re: Penny Indicted

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun May 14 23:38:10 2023, in response to Re: Penny Indicted, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 14 22:54:27 2023.

Mail-in voting is what got Dementia Joe in. If there was just polling-site voting (with the exception of the "traditional" absentee mail in voters), Trump would have won. That is why mail-in was/is so important to the Democrats.

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Re: Penny Indicted

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun May 14 23:41:37 2023, in response to Re: Penny Indicted, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 14 23:37:29 2023.

Yup.

The Marine sensed trouble and wasn't looking for it.

An unknown EDP threatening violence needs to be restrained.

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Re: Penny Indicted

Posted by Train Dude on Mon May 15 04:28:53 2023, in response to Re: Penny Indicted, posted by Fred G on Sun May 14 20:54:43 2023.

I see. So you've now gone into practice with Lucy. I owe you a nickel, thanks.

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Re: Penny Indicted

Posted by Edwards! on Mon May 15 04:44:35 2023, in response to Re: Penny Indicted, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 14 22:53:00 2023.

WAS..as in Use to be.
As in not existing any longer in a physical representation.

As for "Young? He was 30!"..
I see that as a two prong attack.
One,on the life expectancy of black men..
Two..Ageism , conclusive statement that is false.
30s is considered young in this life.
Since you are more likely to be over that.. you probably feel some sort of way about it.

Don't care.

Point being, out of everything said, that was the focus of your response.
Amazing.

Morris, you should know better.

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Re: Penny Indicted

Posted by Edwards! on Mon May 15 04:52:25 2023, in response to Re: Penny Indicted, posted by Train Dude on Sat May 13 20:47:10 2023.

MAGA is proud of you, right now.
Honestly, and I truly mean this...I use to be concerned about the hidden agenda of the White Supremacists in plain sight.

Now, watching the Extremes jump through hoops to create crisis after crisis, creating fear and self loathing is actually a good thing.
It Exposes them to the light they were hiding from.

That's fine with me.
At least the world sees the truth.

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Re: Penny Indicted

Posted by Fred G on Mon May 15 05:41:34 2023, in response to Re: Penny Indicted, posted by Train Dude on Mon May 15 04:28:53 2023.

I charge a dime 😅

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Re: Penny Indicted

Posted by Train Dude on Mon May 15 06:28:27 2023, in response to Re: Penny Indicted, posted by Edwards! on Mon May 15 04:52:25 2023.

Do you find making America Great Again problematic? I find it a worthy undertaking. Perhaps you prefer the liberal left vision of a 3rd world shithole with all the rampant crime
As for white supremacy, I whimper at the notion. Being mostly white is beyond my control but supremacy is easy compared to the rubbish of the underclass. White supremacy is like racist was, an overused and meaningless slur. Yawwwwn

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Re: Penny Indicted

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon May 15 07:35:11 2023, in response to Re: Penny Indicted, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 14 22:53:00 2023.

30 isn't young??

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Re: Penny Indicted

Posted by chicagoMotorman on Mon May 15 08:08:34 2023, in response to Penny Indicted, posted by Train Dude on Thu May 11 22:03:34 2023.



Daniel Penny's Legal Defense Fund

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Re: Penny Indicted

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 15 10:07:01 2023, in response to Re: Penny Indicted, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun May 14 23:38:10 2023.

First, the six states that decided the election did not change their rules prior to the election. Everyone who voted by mail in 2020 could have voted by mail before COVID.

That having been said, you can’t know that all of those VbM people wouldn’t have voted in person if VbM hadn’t been encouraged. I believe in person voting broke records in 2020 as well.

Still, those are still legitimate votes.

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Re: Penny Indicted

Posted by AlM on Mon May 15 10:13:44 2023, in response to Re: Penny Indicted, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 15 10:07:01 2023.

PA changed its rules.

But what the right wing refuses to recognize is that the votes that were counted under the new, disputed rules, were put into some kind of escrow and are not part of the final tally under which Biden won.



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Re: Penny Indicted

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 15 10:25:18 2023, in response to Re: Penny Indicted, posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon May 15 07:35:11 2023.

Relative to what?

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Re: Penny Indicted

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 15 10:27:53 2023, in response to Re: Penny Indicted, posted by AlM on Mon May 15 10:13:44 2023.

Not in any meaningful way or in a way that affected the outcome.

They did expand mail in voting in or around 2018, but that was before COVID, and it was done by the legislature, which was controlled by Republicans.

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Re: Penny Indicted

Posted by AlM on Mon May 15 10:37:54 2023, in response to Re: Penny Indicted, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 15 10:25:18 2023.

Jeff's age. (Or mine.)


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Re: Penny Indicted

Posted by AlM on Mon May 15 10:40:09 2023, in response to Re: Penny Indicted, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 15 10:27:53 2023.

Not in any meaningful way or in a way that affected the outcome.

Exactly. But that's their only evidence of "shenanigans," and they're sticking to it.




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Re: Penny Indicted

Posted by Fred G on Mon May 15 10:54:12 2023, in response to Re: Penny Indicted, posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon May 15 07:35:11 2023.

It’s kind of a relative term. Somebody dies at age 60 and they say it’s young.

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Re: Penny Indicted

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon May 15 11:06:27 2023, in response to Re: Penny Indicted, posted by Edwards! on Mon May 15 04:44:35 2023.

"On the life expectancy of black men"?! WOW....you are REEEEAAAAAAALLY reaching as per usual to somehow make this racial. I'm praying to the gods that you find solstice within yourself. Freyr will take care of that.

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Re: Penny Indicted

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon May 15 11:15:35 2023, in response to Re: Penny Indicted, posted by Edwards! on Mon May 15 04:52:25 2023.

Serious question, if you can answer it. Are all Trump supporters extremists and racists? If you have a MAGA hat does that mean you are the aforementioned? How would you label the black, gay,hispanic, women Trump supporters?

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Re: Penny Indicted

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 15 11:25:04 2023, in response to Re: Penny Indicted, posted by Fred G on Mon May 15 10:54:12 2023.

For someone dying, yes.

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Re: Penny Indicted

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon May 15 11:27:28 2023, in response to Re: Penny Indicted, posted by Train Dude on Mon May 15 06:28:27 2023.

Exactly. But that's his wheelhouse. He lives for it.

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Re: Penny Indicted

Posted by Avid Reader on Mon May 15 11:32:18 2023, in response to Re: Penny Indicted, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon May 15 11:15:35 2023.

I'm NOT A RACIST but I am extremely supportive of Trump.

I'd label the black, gay, Hispanic, and women Trump supporters as Voters.

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Re: Penny Indicted

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon May 15 11:33:12 2023, in response to Re: Penny Indicted, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 15 10:07:01 2023.

Spencer and Tristan wouldn't have put the bong and PBR down and schlepped to the voting places.

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Re: Penny Indicted

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon May 15 11:33:48 2023, in response to Re: Penny Indicted, posted by AlM on Mon May 15 10:40:09 2023.

Who is "they"?

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Re: Penny Indicted

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 15 11:56:50 2023, in response to Re: Penny Indicted, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon May 15 11:33:12 2023.

Sure they would have.

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Re: Penny Indicted

Posted by Fred G on Mon May 15 12:21:45 2023, in response to Re: Penny Indicted, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon May 15 11:33:12 2023.

Oh brother. They would have voted in person especially in that election. Plus if the guy actually is a weed smoker he’s going to vote against the Republicans who want to take weed away.
It may not be a large reason why Trump lost but I think a lot of Republicans just didn’t vote because they hated Trump

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Re: Penny Indicted

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon May 15 12:57:52 2023, in response to Re: Penny Indicted, posted by Fred G on Mon May 15 12:21:45 2023.

" Plus if the guy actually is a weed smoker he’s going to vote against the Republicans who want to take weed away."


And that's a bad thing, how?? Marijuana is a dangerous gateway drug.
https://nypost.com/2023/05/11/moms-how-pot-left-our-sons-schizophrenic-homeless-and-dead/?fbclid=IwAR0mBW7HKXpD2z-BLgblhWh0Ki2gxHuHPNLrzErqSTiJ3ig2ecHyPrhODjs

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Re: Penny Indicted

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon May 15 12:58:49 2023, in response to Re: Penny Indicted, posted by Fred G on Mon May 15 12:21:45 2023.

" Plus if the guy actually is a weed smoker he’s going to vote against the Republicans who want to take weed away."


And that's a bad thing, how?? Marijuana is a dangerous gateway drug.
https://nypost.com/2023/05/11/moms-how-pot-left-our-sons-schizophrenic-homeless-and-dead/?fbclid=IwAR0mBW7HKXpD2z-BLgblhWh0Ki2gxHuHPNLrzErqSTiJ3ig2ecHyPrhODjs

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Re: Penny Indicted

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon May 15 13:15:42 2023, in response to Re: Penny Indicted, posted by Avid Reader on Mon May 15 11:32:18 2023.

Well yes, that's how any reasonable person would think.

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Re: Penny Indicted

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon May 15 13:18:08 2023, in response to Re: Penny Indicted, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 15 11:56:50 2023.

They didn't in 2016, they wouldn't have in 2020. The Dems had to make sure that didn't happen again.

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Re: Penny Indicted

Posted by chicagoMotorman on Mon May 15 13:18:20 2023, in response to Re: Penny Indicted, posted by chicagoMotorman on Mon May 15 08:08:34 2023.

bump

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Re: Penny Indicted

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon May 15 14:25:54 2023, in response to Re: Penny Indicted, posted by Fred G on Mon May 15 12:21:45 2023.

What Republicans want to do that? That was never a POTUS campaign promise. They were lazy in 2016, they will be lazy next year, unless of course "COVID 5.0" magically comes back and causes "mandarory" closures of polling places and the option of mail-in voting. Then Tristan and Spencer's friend down the hall will collect their ballots and make sure they're signed and checked off "D"

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Re: Penny Indicted

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 15 14:32:34 2023, in response to Re: Penny Indicted, posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon May 15 12:57:52 2023.

LOL! The 1930s called, they want their propaganda back.

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Re: Penny Indicted

Posted by Fred G on Mon May 15 14:33:22 2023, in response to Re: Penny Indicted, posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon May 15 12:57:52 2023.

Marijuana is no more dangerous than alcohol. That whole gateway drug thing is just copaganda from the war on drugs so police departments could get more budget money.
They’re doing the same thing now touting a crime wave everywhere

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Re: Penny Indicted

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 15 14:34:17 2023, in response to Re: Penny Indicted, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon May 15 13:18:08 2023.

Trump won in 2016 because they didn’t expect that he would win. That’s why 2016 nonvoters voted in 2020: they realized their votes mattered.

Trump won because of his opponents’ apathy. That will never happen again.

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Re: Penny Indicted

Posted by Fred G on Mon May 15 14:35:04 2023, in response to Re: Penny Indicted, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon May 15 14:25:54 2023.

Far fetched there, bro.

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