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Posted by AlM on Wed Nov 24 19:31:25 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 24 19:12:54 2021. I don't disagree, at least for the two who were killed. I never saw anything to indicate that the third guy really understood the situation.But that's irrelevant. If you bring a gun to a riot you're asking for trouble. It's a police role, not a private role. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Nov 24 19:32:20 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 24 19:15:41 2021. He has no business as a human being getting into the same situation again unless he becomes a law enforcement officer. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Nov 24 19:32:49 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 24 19:16:30 2021. Taking a gun to a riot. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 24 19:34:09 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by AlM on Wed Nov 24 19:05:18 2021. The district attorney is usually the highest-ranking law-enforcement officer in their jurisdiction. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Nov 24 19:36:20 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 24 19:34:09 2021. Really? The DA can give orders to the sheriff or chief of police? |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 24 19:37:54 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by AlM on Wed Nov 24 19:36:20 2021. Yes. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 24 19:40:30 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by AlM on Wed Nov 24 19:36:20 2021. In the same way, the US Attorney General is in charge of the Justice Department, which directs all the federal law-enforcement agencies. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Nov 24 19:41:00 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by AlM on Wed Nov 24 18:11:23 2021. I agree. It is atrocious behavior to put out fires and render first aid to protestors. Absolutely atrocious. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 24 19:44:54 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by AlM on Wed Nov 24 19:31:25 2021. If you bring a gun to a riot, you are protecting yourself |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 24 19:45:52 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by AlM on Wed Nov 24 19:32:20 2021. I just stated such a situation. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 24 19:46:52 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by AlM on Wed Nov 24 19:32:49 2021. What should he have taken, a spatula? |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 24 19:47:57 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Nov 24 19:41:00 2021. Gadzooks!!! |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Wed Nov 24 19:49:14 2021, in response to Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Nov 24 13:28:56 2021. This makes me very angry. Not because these guys were convicted but because the faith in our jury system is only deemed satisfactory when the rabble-rousers get the result they want. When Rittenhouse was acquitted, there was rioting and claims of a racist justice system by the New York Times. But now that Arbery’s killers were convicted, everything’s cool.Our system of justice isn’t supposed to be swayed by mob rule - juries must decide the way we want them to or else we’ll burn down your city. That’s a bullshit way to live. Either you have faith in the system or you don’t - don’t celebrate when a verdict goes your way and burn and loot when it doesn’t. This is a society of laws that apply to everyone. Without exception. |
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Posted by Easy on Wed Nov 24 19:51:45 2021, in response to So What?? (Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty), posted by Mitch45 on Wed Nov 24 19:49:14 2021. If it makes you feel better, I was watching CNN and an assistant law professor from Brooklyn was a guest panelist and she assured us that this verdict means nothing and that the fact that we were concerned about the outcome shows how broken our legal system is. It's all broken Mitch. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 24 19:54:05 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Nov 24 19:41:00 2021. We need to leave them space to riot. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Nov 24 19:54:51 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 24 19:46:52 2021. He was reckless to go. He has no law enforcement experience. |
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Posted by Easy on Wed Nov 24 19:55:35 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Nov 24 19:41:00 2021. Did he render "first aid"? He was passing out water, but the fact that he was shouting "medic" at the protest despite having no medical training was presented by the prosecution as showing that he didn't consider the best interests of the protestors. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Nov 24 19:55:42 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 24 19:54:05 2021. I support the police dealing appropriately with rioters. I don't support random vigilantes doing it. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Nov 24 19:56:57 2021, in response to So What?? (Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty), posted by Mitch45 on Wed Nov 24 19:49:14 2021. I agree. People shouldn't be applauding Rittenhouse as a hero. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 24 19:57:57 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by AlM on Wed Nov 24 19:54:51 2021. He's not free to go where he pleases? |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 24 20:04:23 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by AlM on Wed Nov 24 19:55:42 2021. But this wasn't a kase of Kyle hunting them down. This was a case of THEM actively going after Kyle, who was forced to defend himself. Let's not ignore the elephant in the room |
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Posted by Easy on Wed Nov 24 20:06:26 2021, in response to Re: So What?? (Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty), posted by AlM on Wed Nov 24 19:56:57 2021. I wish that I were as smart as you. I have a hard enough time figuring out what I should be doing, but you are able to figure out what other people should and shouldn't be doing. I may disagree with them, but that's it. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Nov 24 20:23:39 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 24 19:01:10 2021. ...but no cigar. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Nov 24 20:31:53 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 24 19:57:57 2021. People are free to engage in all sorts of reckless behavior. But it shouldn't be applauded. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Nov 24 20:32:41 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 24 20:04:23 2021. I accept the jury's decision that he didn't violate the law. That doesn't mean he acted well. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Nov 24 20:33:41 2021, in response to Re: So What?? (Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty), posted by Easy on Wed Nov 24 20:06:26 2021. It's my opinion. Feel free to have a different opinion. |
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Posted by Easy on Wed Nov 24 20:39:10 2021, in response to Re: So What?? (Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty), posted by AlM on Wed Nov 24 20:33:41 2021. My opinions are increasingly very different, I just don't suggest that others should share them. Maybe you didn't mean that as literally as I read it.Kyle Rittenhouse isn't a hero imo, but neither are the people that he shot and the media has called them heroes. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 24 20:43:07 2021, in response to Re: So What?? (Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty), posted by Easy on Wed Nov 24 20:39:10 2021. Your ideas are intriguing to me, and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 24 21:07:10 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by AlM on Wed Nov 24 20:31:53 2021. He's not being applauded for that |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 24 21:07:43 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by AlM on Wed Nov 24 20:32:41 2021. He acted exactly as he should have. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Nov 24 21:14:07 2021, in response to Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Nov 24 13:28:56 2021. Daily Whale
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Posted by Mitch45 on Wed Nov 24 22:19:21 2021, in response to Re: So What?? (Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty), posted by AlM on Wed Nov 24 19:56:57 2021. Who’s applauding Rittenhouse as a hero? Even Rittenhouse himself doesn’t think he’s a hero. |
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Posted by Easy on Wed Nov 24 22:25:10 2021, in response to Re: So What?? (Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty), posted by Mitch45 on Wed Nov 24 22:19:21 2021. A lot of people on the right think of him as a hero and cheer what he did. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 24 22:27:19 2021, in response to Re: So What?? (Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty), posted by Easy on Wed Nov 24 22:25:10 2021. It’s all about “owning the libs.” |
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Posted by ntrainride on Thu Nov 25 00:10:39 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by Mtk52983 on Wed Nov 24 16:35:57 2021. saying "good ol' boys" is as offensive as saying "them colored boys". |
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Posted by WayneJay on Thu Nov 25 00:40:05 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by Chicagomotorman on Wed Nov 24 16:52:27 2021. Agreed! |
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Posted by jimmymc25 on Thu Nov 25 02:46:43 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by Chicagomotorman on Wed Nov 24 16:52:27 2021. Yes sir! |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Thu Nov 25 06:38:45 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by ntrainride on Thu Nov 25 00:10:39 2021. The biggest champion on this board of her prosecution is JayZee so I was using his language |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Nov 25 06:51:02 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by mtk52983 on Thu Nov 25 06:38:45 2021. Why do you think Johnson doesn't deserve to be prosecuted? If the video of Arbery's murder hadn't made it to the media, that entire lynch mob would have gotten away with it, because of her actions. |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu Nov 25 06:56:08 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by ntrainride on Thu Nov 25 00:10:39 2021. Maybe to a city boy but out in the real world that’s a valid expression |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Thu Nov 25 07:06:59 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Nov 25 06:51:02 2021. Because I don’t see what crime to charge her with. Moreover, I think it will have the perverse effect of causing more charges to be brought in questionable cases. That will backlog the system forcing those who can’t afford bail to wait in jail longer. Prosecutors need to have the discretion to determine whether they think they can prevail and on what charges. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Nov 25 07:08:38 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by mtk52983 on Thu Nov 25 07:06:59 2021. Why not invent a charge. JZ shit-pantz wants his pound of white flesh. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Nov 25 07:09:56 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by mtk52983 on Thu Nov 25 07:06:59 2021. Johnson chose to shield her friend from the legal consequences of his actions under the authority of her office. This is official misconduct, at a minimum. It was way more than "prosecutor's discretion". |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Nov 25 07:10:40 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by Train Dude on Thu Nov 25 07:08:38 2021. Except that she is charged with actual violations of the law. |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Thu Nov 25 07:13:37 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Nov 25 07:09:56 2021. If that is the case, then go through the proper channels to remove her from office. Putting her in jail after you already got convictions for the perps doesn’t make things better. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Nov 25 07:18:07 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Nov 25 07:09:56 2021. What about the Chicago "da" who refused to.prosecute Jussie Smollett. Where are your calls for her to be disciplined or is it black da + black criminal = no prosecution in your book? |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Nov 25 07:39:07 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by mtk52983 on Thu Nov 25 07:13:37 2021. Convicting her makes it abundantly clear that protecting murderers by using the power of your office, is completely unacceptable in a free, democratic society. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Nov 25 08:27:33 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by Train Dude on Thu Nov 25 07:18:07 2021. I already said the Chicago DA was wrong. Equating Jussie's behavior with lynch-mob murder? You are a sick little weevil. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Nov 25 08:56:27 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Nov 25 08:27:33 2021. When are you going to call for her to be charged, JZ Shitin-pantz |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Nov 25 09:23:43 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 24 21:07:43 2021. Except for going to Kenosha in the first place. That was reckless. |
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