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First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Nov 9 14:05:51 2021

The first cop to arrive at the scene of Black jogger Ahmaud Arbery's lynching alleged murder at the hands of a White lynch mob group of suspects, testified in court that he was unable to perform first aid as Arbery was lying on the ground bleeding to death, because he felt it was "unsafe" to do so.

Apparently, the presence of three armed good ol' boys compelled this cop to let Arbery die on the spot, when merely applying direct pressure to the young man's gunshot wound might have bought him precious, lifesaving minutes for an EMS crew to arrive and render more advanced treatment. Arbery's killing, which was recorded on video by one of the defendants, was ignored by the local DA (who is herself now under indictment for her handling of this case) for two full months, until the video was given to the media by the suspect who filmed it. The murder trial of the three rabid lynch mobbers murder defendants is being heard by a jury of 11 White people and one Black person.

I have very little expectation that justice will be served.



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Posted by Easy on Tue Nov 9 14:29:05 2021, in response to First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Nov 9 14:05:51 2021.

Are you suggesting that the cop committed a crime or just didn’t meet some non-criminal level of human decency?

I will be shocked if the white guys aren’t found guilty. There’s a video isn’t there? The former DA is being investigated criminally for not filing charges?

He wasn’t just a “jogger” though. That doesn’t diminish that he was murdered.

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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Nov 9 14:36:52 2021, in response to Re: First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim, posted by Easy on Tue Nov 9 14:29:05 2021.

There is zero evidence that Arbery was anything other than a jogger out for his daily run. Even though there is video of the killing, and the former DA is facing criminal charges, this is still the rural Deep South, and the case is being heard by an almost all-White jury. That does not inspire confidence in the outcome.

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Re: First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Nov 9 15:02:10 2021, in response to First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Nov 9 14:05:51 2021.

"Jogging"... (And yes, he shouldn't have been shot, but let's not fool ourselves with the phony jogging story)

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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Nov 9 15:03:18 2021, in response to Re: First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Nov 9 14:36:52 2021.

*Cue the "In the Heat of the Night" music*

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Re: First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Nov 9 15:04:49 2021, in response to Re: First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Nov 9 15:02:10 2021.

What proof do you have, that Arbery was doing anything but actually jogging?

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Re: First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Nov 9 15:28:28 2021, in response to Re: First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Nov 9 15:04:49 2021.

Well, seeing that I'm in NY, and not on that Georgia street, I have none. BUT...based on my professional opinion. And the opinions of my co-workers, that he was a burglary suspect who was hitting houses in the area.

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Re: First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Nov 9 15:40:15 2021, in response to Re: First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Nov 9 15:28:28 2021.

Yet he had nothing, not even a cell phone, in his pockets at the time of his death.

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Re: First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Nov 9 15:47:12 2021, in response to Re: First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim, posted by Easy on Tue Nov 9 14:29:05 2021.



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Re: First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim

Posted by AlM on Tue Nov 9 16:38:45 2021, in response to Re: First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Nov 9 15:28:28 2021.

A police officer whose voice was captured on his own camera was recorded telling one of the accused that Arbery was NOT a suspect in the recent string of burglaries. That video was introduced into evidence by the prosecutor.





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Re: First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim

Posted by AlM on Tue Nov 9 16:42:49 2021, in response to Re: First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim, posted by Easy on Tue Nov 9 14:29:05 2021.

He wasn’t just a “jogger” though.

What are you referring to? Sure, he was definitely a trespasser too - probably to use a toilet in an unfinished house. But there is a video of a cop telling one of the accused that he was not a burglary suspect.







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Re: First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Nov 9 17:33:46 2021, in response to Re: First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Nov 9 15:28:28 2021.

What evidence of Arbery's behavior led you to form your "professional opinion" that he was a "burglary suspect who was hitting houses in the area"?

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Re: First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim

Posted by AlM on Tue Nov 9 18:10:17 2021, in response to Re: First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Nov 9 15:28:28 2021.

Oh by the way, it's come out in the trial that the defendants only thought about the "burglar" defense after a while. Their original interviews with the police did not include their mentioning that they thought he was a burglar.



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Re: First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Nov 9 18:18:40 2021, in response to Re: First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim, posted by AlM on Tue Nov 9 18:10:17 2021.

IAWTP

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Re: First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim

Posted by WayneJay on Tue Nov 9 18:43:35 2021, in response to Re: First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Nov 9 18:18:40 2021.

Sadly, it was only a matter of time before the murder victim becomes suspect of something. Soon enough it'll be... Arbery caused his own death.

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Re: First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Nov 9 18:49:57 2021, in response to Re: First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Nov 9 15:40:15 2021.

True.

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Re: First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Nov 9 18:50:50 2021, in response to Re: First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim, posted by AlM on Tue Nov 9 16:38:45 2021.

The individual police officer could be mistaken, however.

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Re: First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Nov 9 18:51:11 2021, in response to Re: First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Nov 9 17:33:46 2021.

Running from the house for one....

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Re: First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Nov 9 18:51:32 2021, in response to Re: First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim, posted by AlM on Tue Nov 9 18:10:17 2021.

Ok, and?

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Re: First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Nov 9 18:53:56 2021, in response to Re: First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim, posted by WayneJay on Tue Nov 9 18:43:35 2021.

"That's some sad shit. Motherfucka said he don't wanna live no more! He jumped."

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Re: First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Nov 9 18:54:48 2021, in response to Re: First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim, posted by AlM on Tue Nov 9 16:42:49 2021.

That doesn't mean the cop was correct.

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Re: First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Nov 9 19:10:24 2021, in response to Re: First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Nov 9 18:51:11 2021.

He was jogging through the construction site, as witnesses confirmed he had done many times before.

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Re: First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Nov 9 19:12:06 2021, in response to Re: First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Nov 9 19:10:24 2021.

WHERE did you grow up?👌🏻👌🏻 Sure he was... sure he was.

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Re: First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim

Posted by AlM on Tue Nov 9 19:17:59 2021, in response to Re: First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Nov 9 18:51:32 2021.

So even if he was a burglar, the defendants didn't think he was one.



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Re: First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim

Posted by WayneJay on Tue Nov 9 19:32:55 2021, in response to Re: First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Nov 9 18:53:56 2021.

Can't deprive him of his wish.

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Re: First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Nov 9 19:35:02 2021, in response to Re: First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim, posted by WayneJay on Tue Nov 9 19:32:55 2021.

That's a Sopranos quote

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Re: First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Nov 9 19:36:41 2021, in response to Re: First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim, posted by AlM on Tue Nov 9 19:17:59 2021.

And we know this, how? They said this exact thing as their defense

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Posted by AlM on Tue Nov 9 19:43:40 2021, in response to Re: First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Nov 9 19:36:41 2021.

And we know this, how?

From transcripts of their initial interviews with police after the event, offered into evidence by the prosecutor.



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Re: First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim

Posted by Easy on Tue Nov 9 19:44:04 2021, in response to Re: First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim, posted by AlM on Tue Nov 9 18:10:17 2021.

What did they say they thought that Arbery had done in the original interviews?

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Re: First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim

Posted by AlM on Tue Nov 9 19:44:57 2021, in response to Re: First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim, posted by Easy on Tue Nov 9 19:44:04 2021.

I don't know.



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Re: First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim

Posted by Easy on Tue Nov 9 19:45:22 2021, in response to Re: First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim, posted by AlM on Tue Nov 9 19:17:59 2021.

Do you have a link? I'm looking and not finding that.

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Posted by WayneJay on Tue Nov 9 19:51:33 2021, in response to Re: First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Nov 9 19:35:02 2021.

Ah, I figured from something since you included quotes! I didn't watch it much. I probably will watch them some day

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Re: First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Nov 9 20:10:57 2021, in response to Re: First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim, posted by AlM on Tue Nov 9 19:43:40 2021.

It doesn't mean they didn't think that, even if they initially didn't say it. And yes, it could be bullshit as well.

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Posted by AlM on Tue Nov 9 20:21:29 2021, in response to Re: First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Nov 9 20:10:57 2021.

You're trying to justify the killing to the cops as self-defense. If you had thought he was a burglar, you'd have said so.



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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 9 21:06:48 2021, in response to Re: First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim, posted by WayneJay on Tue Nov 9 19:51:33 2021.

It’s from the first episode.

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Posted by Fred G on Tue Nov 9 21:28:05 2021, in response to Re: First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Nov 9 19:10:24 2021.

When I was a kid it was popular to check out houses under construction. When we had relatives over on weekends, my dad and uncles would tour houses in our neighborhood and go inside them. That's not "hitting houses" but just a suburban pastime.

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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Tue Nov 9 21:42:12 2021, in response to Re: First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Nov 9 18:54:48 2021.

That doesn't mean the cop was correct.

Cops seldom are correct.

NY Times: 60 Criminal Cases Are Thrown Out Because of 3 Detectives’ Misconduct

Gothamist: Queens DA Melinda Katz Moves To Expunge 60 Convictions Linked To Corrupt NYPD Officers

The Daily Beast: Queens DA Asks Court to Dismiss 60 Cases that Relied on Bad Detectives

patch.com: 'Scourge' Of Misconduct Allegations Plague Queens DA's Office

amNY: Queens Supreme Court dismisses 60 cases that relied on testimony of convicted NYPD detectives

NY Daily News: Queens judge vacates 60 convictions obtained by crooked cops

NY Post: Queens DA moves to dismiss 60 cases connected to convicted NYPD detectives



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Re: First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim

Posted by Dave on Tue Nov 9 21:46:13 2021, in response to Re: First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim, posted by Fred G on Tue Nov 9 21:28:05 2021.

True. I went through all the houses under construction in my neighborhood in Ft. Worth.

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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Nov 9 21:46:46 2021, in response to Re: First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim, posted by AlM on Tue Nov 9 20:21:29 2021.

I'm sitting here in NY! I'm drinking Bustelo, eating candles as we speak! I do think hec was a burglar, and voiced it.

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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Nov 9 21:59:49 2021, in response to Re: First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim, posted by Fred G on Tue Nov 9 21:28:05 2021.

This ain't the 70s anymore. Shit we all did as kids would get us locked up if we did that today

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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Nov 9 22:02:15 2021, in response to Re: First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim, posted by Stephen Bauman on Tue Nov 9 21:42:12 2021.

Based on the actions of 3 cops, who sound like quota hires, all cops are seldom correct?

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Re: First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim

Posted by Stephen Bauman on Tue Nov 9 23:04:26 2021, in response to Re: First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Nov 9 22:02:15 2021.

Based on the actions of 3 cops

The list is much larger.

There are 164 cops in the DA's list whose involvement in a case is a get out of jail free card.

The City: NYPD Officers on a Secret Watchlist Jeopardize Prosecutions

Even on Staten Island and the rest of the country.

Gothamist: Staten Island Prosecutors Are Creating A List of Cops They Don’t Trust To Testify

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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Nov 9 23:30:41 2021, in response to Re: First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim, posted by Stephen Bauman on Tue Nov 9 23:04:26 2021.

Gothamist LOL!!!

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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Nov 10 00:02:13 2021, in response to Re: First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim, posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Nov 9 23:30:41 2021.

Gothamist LOL!!!

Staten Island Advance: Lawyers’ group wants list of Staten Island cops not trusted to testify

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Posted by Fred G on Wed Nov 10 07:18:10 2021, in response to Re: First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Nov 9 21:59:49 2021.

We still do it here. Maybe it wouldn’t fly in Brooklyn but out in America it’s different

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Posted by Fred G on Wed Nov 10 07:21:57 2021, in response to Re: First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Nov 9 15:28:28 2021.

😂

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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 10 07:30:15 2021, in response to Re: First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Nov 9 15:28:28 2021.

"Your co-workers "? What law-enforcement agency are you working at now?

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Posted by AlM on Wed Nov 10 08:19:19 2021, in response to Re: First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Nov 9 21:46:46 2021.

I was using "you" in the very common sense of third person singular, more correctly but quaintly said as "one."



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Posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Nov 10 08:42:57 2021, in response to Re: First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim, posted by Fred G on Tue Nov 9 21:28:05 2021.

Yes. When I was 8 - 9 years old I did that on my block.

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Posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Nov 10 09:24:45 2021, in response to Re: First Cop At Arbery Shooting Scene Says It Was 'Unsafe' To Render First Aid To Victim, posted by Dave on Tue Nov 9 21:46:13 2021.

I worked close to where my home was being built in Exton, Pa. I stopped over at lunch times, we had an hour, to watch them work.

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