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HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Oct 11 13:34:06 2021



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Re: HAPPY NATIVE AMERICAN DAY !!!

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Oct 11 13:37:40 2021, in response to HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!, posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Oct 11 13:34:06 2021.

CORRECTED

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Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Oct 11 13:37:50 2021, in response to HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!, posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Oct 11 13:34:06 2021.

YUCK

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Re: HAPPY INDIGENOUS PEOPLES DAY!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Oct 11 13:38:44 2021, in response to HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!, posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Oct 11 13:34:06 2021.

FTFY

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Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 11 13:39:23 2021, in response to HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!, posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Oct 11 13:34:06 2021.



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Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Oct 11 13:45:01 2021, in response to HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!, posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Oct 11 13:34:06 2021.

Anyone who does not appreciate the great accomplishments of Christopher Columbus, why are you still living in America?


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Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Oct 11 13:46:18 2021, in response to HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!, posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Oct 11 13:34:06 2021.



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Re: HAPPY LIBERALS SHOWING HOW MUCH THEY HATE AMERICA AND ITALIANS DAY!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Oct 11 13:46:22 2021, in response to HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!, posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Oct 11 13:34:06 2021.

Oh why not. That's what they're doing already, in this thread.

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Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY !!!

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Oct 11 13:47:30 2021, in response to Re: HAPPY NATIVE AMERICAN DAY !!!, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Oct 11 13:37:40 2021.

Give the Indians there own separate day.

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Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Oct 11 13:47:45 2021, in response to Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Oct 11 13:37:50 2021.

Idiot.

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Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Oct 11 13:48:32 2021, in response to Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!, posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Oct 11 13:45:01 2021.

Columbus' "accomplishments" include the rape, enslavement, and genocide of the indigenous peoples he and his crew found when they landed in the West Indies.

Of course, you have no problem with these historical facts.

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Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Oct 11 13:50:05 2021, in response to Re: HAPPY INDIGENOUS PEOPLES DAY!!!!!!!!!!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Oct 11 13:38:44 2021.

Give the Indians there own separate day.

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Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Mtk52983 on Mon Oct 11 13:50:37 2021, in response to Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!, posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Oct 11 13:45:01 2021.

He landed in West Indies not United States

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Re: HAPPY LIBERALS SHOWING HOW MUCH THEY HATE AMERICA AND ITALIANS DAY!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Oct 11 13:50:40 2021, in response to Re: HAPPY LIBERALS SHOWING HOW MUCH THEY HATE AMERICA AND ITALIANS DAY!!!!!!!!!!, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Oct 11 13:46:22 2021.

I agree.

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Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Oct 11 13:52:46 2021, in response to Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Oct 11 13:48:32 2021.

BULL FUCKIN SHIT! It's the fact that it represents a white guy that started the colonization of America. Your racism is showing.

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Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Oct 11 13:53:37 2021, in response to Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!, posted by Mtk52983 on Mon Oct 11 13:50:37 2021.

No shit. It's part of North America. And Happy Columbus Day to you.

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Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Oct 11 13:53:46 2021, in response to HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!, posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Oct 11 13:34:06 2021.

Same to you!

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Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Oct 11 13:55:25 2021, in response to HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!, posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Oct 11 13:34:06 2021.



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Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Oct 11 13:56:48 2021, in response to Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Oct 11 13:48:32 2021.

The injuns were there for the taking! I have no problem with what happened, but I personally wouldn't do it. Although, I wasn't around in the 1400s

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Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Oct 11 14:00:27 2021, in response to HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!, posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Oct 11 13:34:06 2021.

The Left trying to steal Columbus Day and stick Injun Day in it's place is like them trying to take away Yom Kippur and putting a muslim holiday in it's place. Disgraceful.

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Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Oct 11 14:00:34 2021, in response to Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!, posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Oct 11 13:52:46 2021.

Here are some of the worst atrocities committed by Christopher Columbus.

Again, pointing out the historical truth, isn't "racism". In fact, I didn't mention race at all in my post. You are the one who inserted race into the discussion.

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Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Oct 11 14:01:13 2021, in response to Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Oct 11 13:56:48 2021.

"There for the tsking"????

Wow.

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Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Oct 11 14:01:47 2021, in response to Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Oct 11 14:00:27 2021.

IAWTLP

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Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Oct 11 14:03:53 2021, in response to Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Oct 11 14:01:13 2021.

To the Victor goes the spoils. That's what EVERYONE worldwide does. Asia, Africa, Europe, North America, South America, etc... Do you think that Eurooeans taking slaves from other people is any worse than Asians taking other Asians as slaves?

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Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Oct 11 14:04:10 2021, in response to Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Oct 11 14:00:34 2021.

I have to pay to read that article. So unless you are willing to buy it for me, I have no intention of ready that drek.

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Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Oct 11 14:08:14 2021, in response to HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!, posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Oct 11 13:34:06 2021.



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Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Oct 11 14:12:28 2021, in response to Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!, posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Oct 11 14:04:10 2021.

TOP 5 ATROCITIES COMMITTED BY CHRISTOPHER COLUMBUS

(Rapid City Journal)

It's difficult to think of a more perverse hero than Christopher Columbus, the Italian who led Europe’s first landing party in the Americas.

From rape, to pillage, to flat-out murder, Columbus and his men were the first Europeans to commit horrendous atrocities against America’s indigenous people.

The following list describes a sampling of reasons why Columbus was an awful person, with information drawn from Howard Zinn’s "A People's History of the United States."

'We could subjugate them all'
'We could subjugate them all'
In his journal, Columbus didn’t mince words about his intentions after meeting the Arawak natives in the Bahamas in 1492. He described the encounter thusly: “They ... brought us parrots and balls of cotton and spears and many other things ... They willingly traded everything they owned ... They were well-built, with good bodies and handsome features .... They do not bear arms, and do not know them, for I showed them a sword, they took it by the edge and cut themselves out of ignorance. They have no iron. Their spears are made of cane. ... They would make fine servants. ... With fifty men we could subjugate them all and make them do whatever we want.” Columbus would add: “As soon as I arrived in the Indies, on the first Island which I found, I took some of the natives by force in order that they might learn and might give me information of whatever there is in these islands."

Slavery and gold
Slavery and gold
Columbus had two goals in the Caribbean: to find gold and slaves. Columbus returned home to Spain and came back to the Caribbean with 17 ships and 1,200 men. His men traveled from island to island, taking Indians as captives. In 1495, in a large slave raid, Columbus and his men rounded up 1,500 Arawak men, women, and children, and put them in pens. They selected what they considered the best natives and loaded them onto ships back to Spain. Two hundred died en route. After the survivors were sold as slaves in Spain, Columbus later wrote: "Let us in the name of the Holy Trinity go on sending all the slaves that can be sold."


Blood for gold
Blood for gold
But slaves weren’t enough for Columbus or the Spanish monarchy. Columbus needed to bring back gold. Columbus and his crew believed there were gold fields in the province of Cicao on Haiti. He and his men ordered all natives 14 years or older to collect a certain amount of gold every three months. Natives who didn’t collect enough gold had their hands cut off. But it was an impossible tasks. There was virtually no gold around; only a little dust in streams. Many natives fled and were consequently hunted down and killed by the Spaniards.


Cruelty
Cruelty
If captivity and death weren’t enough, Columbus and his men had a particular reputation for cruelty. Bartolome de las Casas, a young priest who participated in the conquest of Cuba and wrote a history of the Indies, describes the treatment of the natives: “Endless testimonies ... prove the mild and pacific temperament of the natives. ... But our work was to exasperate, ravage, kill, mangle and destroy; small wonder, then, if they tried to kill one of us now and then.... The admiral, it is true, was blind as those who came after him, and he was so anxious to please the King that he committed irreparable crimes against the Indians ...“ Las Casas describes how Spaniards rode on the backs of natives. How the Spaniards "thought nothing of knifing Indians by tens and twenties and of cutting slices off them to test the sharpness of their blades." Las Casas adds "two of these so-called Christians met two Indian boys one day, each carrying a parrot; they took the parrots and for fun beheaded the boys."



Mass genocide
Mass genocide
Facing extermination, the Arawaks organized and attempted to fight back against the Spaniards. But they were little match against the armor, muskets, swords and horses of the Europeans. The Spaniards hung or burned Indians that they took captive. By this point, the Arawaks began committing mass suicides. They fed cassava poison to their infants to save them from the Spanish. In two years, half of the 250,000 Indians on Haiti were dead, either through murder, mutilation or suicide. By 1550, there were 500 Indians. By 1650, the Arawaks had been wiped out from the island.


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Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Oct 11 14:17:08 2021, in response to Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Oct 11 14:12:28 2021.

But that's just the way the World was in the 1400s. Yes, it's wrong, but it's history

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Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Oct 11 14:26:14 2021, in response to Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Oct 11 14:12:28 2021.

Gee thanks.

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Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 11 14:29:17 2021, in response to Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!, posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Oct 11 13:53:37 2021.

No, it’s not. It’s an archipelago and he didn’t even know he was in a new continent. He thought he was in Indonesia.

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Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Oct 11 14:29:29 2021, in response to Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Oct 11 14:17:08 2021.

It was wrong then, too.

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Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 11 14:30:28 2021, in response to Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Oct 11 13:48:32 2021.

And he did so in the service of Queen Isabella of Castile.

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Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 11 14:31:46 2021, in response to Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Oct 11 14:29:29 2021.

Yes, it was. It’s interesting how the right has adopted “moral relativism” after railing against it for years.

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Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 11 14:33:17 2021, in response to Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!, posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Oct 11 13:52:46 2021.

America was colonized by the English, and Dutch, not the Spanish.

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Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 11 14:33:48 2021, in response to Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!, posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Oct 11 13:46:18 2021.

Meh.

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Re: HAPPY LIBERALS SHOWING HOW MUCH THEY HATE AMERICA AND ITALIANS DAY!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 11 14:35:33 2021, in response to Re: HAPPY LIBERALS SHOWING HOW MUCH THEY HATE AMERICA AND ITALIANS DAY!!!!!!!!!!, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Oct 11 13:46:22 2021.

Columbus didn’t found America. He spread medieval tyranny to the Western Hemisphere.

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Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Oct 11 14:45:04 2021, in response to Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 11 14:31:46 2021.

IAWTP

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Re: HAPPY INDIGENOUS PEOPLES DAY!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Oct 11 14:50:49 2021, in response to Re: HAPPY INDIGENOUS PEOPLES DAY!!!!!!!!!!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Oct 11 13:38:44 2021.

IAWTP

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Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 11 14:51:18 2021, in response to Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!, posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Oct 11 13:50:05 2021.

That is true, because if they hate Columbus so much and think that his discovery of the Bahamas was so bad, why make that the holiday?

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Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY !!! NOOOOOOOOO

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Oct 11 14:51:33 2021, in response to Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY !!!, posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Oct 11 13:47:30 2021.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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Re: HAPPY LIBERALS SHOWING HOW MUCH THEY HATE AMERICA AND ITALIANS DAY!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Oct 11 14:52:19 2021, in response to Re: HAPPY LIBERALS SHOWING HOW MUCH THEY HATE AMERICA AND ITALIANS DAY!!!!!!!!!!, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 11 14:35:33 2021.

IAWTP

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Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 11 14:53:05 2021, in response to Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Oct 11 14:00:27 2021.

That’s what the Christians did to Pesach.

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Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Oct 11 14:53:17 2021, in response to Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 11 14:29:17 2021.

It's still part of N.A., like Great Britain, Sicily, etc.. are part of Europe.

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Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Oct 11 14:54:04 2021, in response to Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 11 14:31:46 2021.

But we're not talking about the right or left

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Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Oct 11 14:54:49 2021, in response to Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Oct 11 14:29:29 2021.

Yeah, WE think so, but did they?

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Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Oct 11 14:55:30 2021, in response to Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 11 14:33:17 2021.

And discovered by an Eyetie!

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Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 11 14:55:58 2021, in response to Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Oct 11 14:53:17 2021.

Sicily is only part of Europe by convention, like why is Iceland part of Europe and not North America? Same deal.

If the Moops still controlled Sicily, it would be treated as part of Africa.

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Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 11 14:57:11 2021, in response to Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Oct 11 14:55:30 2021.

?

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Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY !!! NOOOOOOOOO

Posted by Elkeeper on Mon Oct 11 15:06:02 2021, in response to Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY !!! NOOOOOOOOO, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Oct 11 14:51:33 2021.

How about June 25th, 1876?

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Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Oct 11 15:06:23 2021, in response to Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 11 14:53:05 2021.

And it's wrong. The only thing I can see is that the whole Easter Week fable took place during the Passover fable, so that's why it's intertwined.

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