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Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas

Posted by Mitch45 on Fri Sep 17 14:44:49 2021

https://5townscentral.com/2021/09/17/faa-restricts-fox-drone-after-showing-images-of-migrant-surge-of-over-10k/

Check this out - Fox News had a drone showing illegals walking into Texas unchallenged. The FAA took away its right to fly a drone there.

Had Trump done this, the media would be screaming censorship. The same old story.

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Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Sep 17 14:46:08 2021, in response to Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas, posted by Mitch45 on Fri Sep 17 14:44:49 2021.

FAA is unconstitutional.

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Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Sep 17 14:48:37 2021, in response to Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas, posted by Mitch45 on Fri Sep 17 14:44:49 2021.

You do understand that one of the FAA's main responsibilities is to regulate aviation, don't you?

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Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 17 14:48:54 2021, in response to Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Sep 17 14:46:08 2021.

What would you know about what’s constitutional, fanatic?

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Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas

Posted by Mitch45 on Fri Sep 17 14:54:20 2021, in response to Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Sep 17 14:48:37 2021.

Of course. I wasn’t aware that included drones. I guess I’d better cancel my daughter’s kite flying outing on Sunday.

Either you’re missing the point or you’re ignoring it. I’m guessing the latter.

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Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 17 14:55:17 2021, in response to Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas, posted by Mitch45 on Fri Sep 17 14:54:20 2021.

It absolutely does include drones. It doesn’t include kites.

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Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Sep 17 14:57:35 2021, in response to Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas, posted by Mitch45 on Fri Sep 17 14:44:49 2021.

BTW, thanks for saying "illegals".

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Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas

Posted by Easy on Fri Sep 17 15:03:52 2021, in response to Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 17 14:55:17 2021.

Theoretically FAA oversight is safety related and not political. I think that this blurs the line or more likely just moved it for political convenience.

Temporary Flight Restrictions (TFRs) define a certain area of airspace where air travel is limited for a period and may be in place for different reasons. The FAA may use the term "No Drone Zone" to identify an area where there is a TFR. Examples include, major sporting events, presidential movements, or in security sensitive areas designated by federal agencies.
Restriction details of the TFR include, size, altitude, date/time, and what types of operations are restricted and permitted. All pilots are required to adhere to the restrictions of the TFR.


https://www.faa.gov/uas/resources/community_engagement/no_drone_zone/

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Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Sep 17 15:05:46 2021, in response to Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Sep 17 14:57:35 2021.

Well, they are!

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Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas

Posted by AlM on Fri Sep 17 15:05:58 2021, in response to Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas, posted by Mitch45 on Fri Sep 17 14:44:49 2021.

Hmm.

The drone footage I see shows the illegals all stopped by the fence on the US side of the river. Where does it show them "coming in unchecked"?

Also, the Border Patrol has plenty of patrols a few miles in from the border. What indicates those aren't in effect?

Also, did Fox check with the FAA to make sure their drones weren't in the flight path of Border Patrol aircraft?



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Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas

Posted by AlM on Fri Sep 17 15:07:16 2021, in response to Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas, posted by Easy on Fri Sep 17 15:03:52 2021.

The Border Patrol has lots of low flying aircraft. Imagine if a Border Patrol plane hit a drone. Did Fox make sure that was totally impossible?





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Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Sep 17 15:13:23 2021, in response to Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas, posted by Mitch45 on Fri Sep 17 14:44:49 2021.

What a. F'in disgrace this administration is. Transparency LOL. The total opposite they don't even answer questions at press conferences

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Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Sep 17 15:14:01 2021, in response to Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Sep 17 14:48:37 2021.

Lol! So all of a sudden they're banning them as this crisis is taking place with the Haitians? Lmao

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Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Sep 17 15:14:50 2021, in response to Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas, posted by Mitch45 on Fri Sep 17 14:54:20 2021.

Drones are regulated by the FAA under Part 107.

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Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Sep 17 15:16:57 2021, in response to Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Sep 17 15:14:01 2021.

The FAA has oversight of drones under Part 107 of the FAR.

My guess is they placed a temporary restriction over the area to avoid separation conflicts with Border Patrol aircraft.

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Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas

Posted by Easy on Fri Sep 17 15:17:10 2021, in response to Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas, posted by AlM on Fri Sep 17 15:07:16 2021.

The ban was already lifted. Did the FAA confirm that it was totally impossible?

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Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas

Posted by Easy on Fri Sep 17 15:20:11 2021, in response to Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas, posted by Easy on Fri Sep 17 15:17:10 2021.

“I just want to point out, Fox News has been at the border for the better part of seven months now,” Melugin said. “We’ve been using the drone the entire time. It’s never been an issue. All of a sudden, the last 24 hours, we start showing these images at this bridge and a TFR goes up. We can no longer fly.”

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Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Sep 17 15:20:48 2021, in response to Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas, posted by Easy on Fri Sep 17 15:20:11 2021.

Yep

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Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas

Posted by Easy on Fri Sep 17 15:23:10 2021, in response to Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Sep 17 15:16:57 2021.

My guess is..we'll..why not just read what they stated..

In a statement, the FAA said, “The Border Patrol requested the temporary flight restriction due to drones interfering with law enforcement flights on the border. As with any temporary flight restriction, media is able to call the FAA to make requests to operate in the area.”



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Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas

Posted by Easy on Fri Sep 17 15:25:53 2021, in response to Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Sep 17 15:14:50 2021.

Which title?

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Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas

Posted by Easy on Fri Sep 17 15:32:28 2021, in response to Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas, posted by AlM on Fri Sep 17 15:05:58 2021.

Also, did Fox check with the FAA to make sure their drones weren't in the flight path of Border Patrol aircraft?

Is this a real requirement or a red herring?

In any event, this appears to be part of a pattern by the Biden administration to control the collection and dissemination of information at the border. Say what you want about Trump's ideology or mental state, but he was much more open with the media.

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Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Sep 17 15:37:23 2021, in response to Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas, posted by Easy on Fri Sep 17 15:25:53 2021.

14 CFR 107

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Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas

Posted by Easy on Fri Sep 17 15:42:39 2021, in response to Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Sep 17 15:37:23 2021.

👍🏽

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Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Sep 17 16:00:02 2021, in response to Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Sep 17 15:05:46 2021.

Exactly.

I wasn't being sarcastic.

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Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Sep 17 16:04:10 2021, in response to Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Sep 17 15:05:46 2021.

Exactly.

I wasn't being sarcastic.

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Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas

Posted by Fred G on Fri Sep 17 16:19:14 2021, in response to Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Sep 17 14:46:08 2021.

Because they didn’t have airplanes when they wrote the constitution? Is that why?

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Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas

Posted by Fred G on Fri Sep 17 16:22:25 2021, in response to Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas, posted by Easy on Fri Sep 17 15:32:28 2021.

It’s a real requirement. Anytime there are aircraft such as emergency response teams or border patrol or whatever, UAVs are not allowed without a waiver. There have been instances of collisions

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Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Sep 17 16:24:23 2021, in response to Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Sep 17 14:48:37 2021.

Tax lawn jockey income

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Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas

Posted by Fred G on Fri Sep 17 16:30:32 2021, in response to Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Sep 17 15:13:23 2021.

Lol!

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Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Sep 17 16:30:41 2021, in response to Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 17 14:55:17 2021.

Actually, the FAA does regulate some kites but why confuse us with facts.

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Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas

Posted by AlM on Fri Sep 17 16:35:50 2021, in response to Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas, posted by Easy on Fri Sep 17 15:23:10 2021.

So there you have it.


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Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas

Posted by AlM on Fri Sep 17 16:39:54 2021, in response to Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Sep 17 15:13:23 2021.

Easy posted an official statement.

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Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Sep 17 16:53:43 2021, in response to Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas, posted by Fred G on Fri Sep 17 16:19:14 2021.

But...but...but...Trump says the Continental Army "took over the airports" during the Revolutionary War!

Didn't you know that Minutemen fought for exit row seating at the Battle Of Terminal B?



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Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas

Posted by Fred G on Fri Sep 17 16:56:48 2021, in response to Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Sep 17 16:53:43 2021.

Strokahontas said some goofy things 🤣

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Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas

Posted by Easy on Fri Sep 17 16:58:15 2021, in response to Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas, posted by Fred G on Fri Sep 17 16:22:25 2021.

Al was referencing before the ban. There is no blanket requirement check with the FAA to see if there are emergency flights in the area before flying a drone. That only applies to areas that are already restricted.

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Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Sep 17 17:00:42 2021, in response to Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Sep 17 16:53:43 2021.

But but but, you are such a shit

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Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas

Posted by Easy on Fri Sep 17 17:01:33 2021, in response to Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas, posted by AlM on Fri Sep 17 16:35:50 2021.

Yes, that's the claim. Fox stated that they have been flying the border for 8 months with no issues.

It could be a safety issue, although they already rescinded the ban so probably not. It does fit the pattern of the current administration trying to limit bad news at the border.

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Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas

Posted by Easy on Fri Sep 17 17:03:22 2021, in response to Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas, posted by Easy on Fri Sep 17 16:58:15 2021.

What I mean is that you can fly a drone anywhere that isn't restricted. In restricted areas you have to ask the FAA for permission and they may or may not schedule time for you to fly.

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Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas

Posted by Fred G on Fri Sep 17 17:06:24 2021, in response to Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas, posted by Easy on Fri Sep 17 17:03:22 2021.

I know. I’ve been 107 certified for two years now

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Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas

Posted by AlM on Fri Sep 17 17:06:48 2021, in response to Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas, posted by Easy on Fri Sep 17 17:01:33 2021.

Fox stated that they have been flying the border for 8 months with no issues.

No reason to doubt that.

But then suddenly these 10,000 people gather near Del Rio, and the Border Patrol has to bring in planes to help track them. Now it becomes an issue.



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Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Sep 17 17:12:36 2021, in response to Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas, posted by Fred G on Fri Sep 17 16:56:48 2021.

😂😂😂😂😂

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Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas

Posted by Fred G on Fri Sep 17 17:16:26 2021, in response to Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas, posted by Easy on Fri Sep 17 17:03:22 2021.

I get the TFR’s emailed to me by the FAA. I also use a couple of apps that not only tell me where the restricted airspace is but allow me to obtain authorization pretty much instantly through the LAANC system

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Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas

Posted by Allan on Fri Sep 17 17:16:47 2021, in response to Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas, posted by Fred G on Fri Sep 17 16:19:14 2021.

Well, Ben Franklin did fly his kite quite a bit.

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Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas

Posted by Easy on Fri Sep 17 17:23:09 2021, in response to Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas, posted by AlM on Fri Sep 17 17:06:48 2021.

Then why rescind the restriction less than 24 hours later? Did the people leave or did they decide that they really don't need to track them?

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Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas

Posted by Easy on Fri Sep 17 17:23:09 2021, in response to Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas, posted by AlM on Fri Sep 17 17:06:48 2021.

Then why rescind the restriction less than 24 hours later? Did the people leave or did they decide that they really don't need to track them?

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Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas

Posted by Easy on Fri Sep 17 17:26:12 2021, in response to Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas, posted by Fred G on Fri Sep 17 17:16:26 2021.

Thanks for explaining.

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Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas

Posted by Fred G on Fri Sep 17 17:26:52 2021, in response to Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas, posted by Allan on Fri Sep 17 17:16:47 2021.

🤣

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Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas

Posted by Dave on Fri Sep 17 18:10:39 2021, in response to Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Sep 17 14:46:08 2021.

Please explain.

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Posted by Chicagomotorman on Fri Sep 17 18:17:42 2021, in response to Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Sep 17 14:46:08 2021.

It is?

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Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Sep 17 18:20:13 2021, in response to Re: Biden’s FAA Censors News Coverage of Illegals Streaming Into Texas, posted by Chicagomotorman on Fri Sep 17 18:17:42 2021.

Should be self-explanatory as to why. When the executive has de facto legislative power, separation of powers is destroyed and Congress makes itself a toy parliament.

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