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Posted by AlM on Fri Sep 17 12:47:55 2021, in response to White house resident denys care for American citizens, posted by Avid Reader on Fri Sep 17 11:59:18 2021. So you don't think that a medicine in very short supply should be distributed equitably? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Sep 17 13:00:42 2021, in response to White house resident denys care for American citizens, posted by Avid Reader on Fri Sep 17 11:59:18 2021. Biden to US: Drop Dead |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Sep 17 13:12:33 2021, in response to Re: White house resident denies care for American citizens, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Sep 17 13:00:42 2021. Word! |
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Posted by Dave on Fri Sep 17 13:30:22 2021, in response to Re: White house resident denies care for American citizens, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Sep 17 13:00:42 2021. Well said, Olog. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Sep 17 13:34:28 2021, in response to Re: White house resident denies care for American citizens, posted by Dave on Fri Sep 17 13:30:22 2021. So you oppose equitable distribution of medicine that is in short supply? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 17 13:36:09 2021, in response to Re: White house resident denies care for American citizens, posted by Dave on Fri Sep 17 13:30:22 2021. FALSE! |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 17 13:36:52 2021, in response to Re: White house resident denies care for American citizens, posted by AlM on Fri Sep 17 13:34:28 2021. The way to distribute it equitably is to favor people who have been vaccinated or who were unable to get vaccinated due to age or health. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Sep 17 13:40:20 2021, in response to Re: White house resident denies care for American citizens, posted by Dave on Fri Sep 17 13:30:22 2021. You're being sarcastic aren't you? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Sep 17 13:49:43 2021, in response to Re: White house resident denies care for American citizens, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Sep 17 13:40:20 2021. You want to deny care to Americans too? |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Sep 17 13:59:16 2021, in response to Re: White house resident denies care for American citizens, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Sep 17 13:49:43 2021. Of course not. I was asking Dave. Unless your name is Dave. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Sep 17 14:00:32 2021, in response to Re: White house resident denies care for American citizens, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Sep 17 13:59:16 2021. Well, I for my part give the benefit of the doubt and take him at his word. |
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Posted by Fred G on Fri Sep 17 14:06:00 2021, in response to White house resident denys care for American citizens, posted by Avid Reader on Fri Sep 17 11:59:18 2021. It’s called rationing |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Sep 17 14:14:34 2021, in response to Re: White house resident denies care for American citizens, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 17 13:36:52 2021. First come, first serve. Or, whoever needs it the most. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 17 14:17:57 2021, in response to Re: White house resident denies care for American citizens, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Sep 17 14:14:34 2021. People who are not vaccinated need it least as clearly they have no interest in surviving a COVID infection. |
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Posted by Dave on Fri Sep 17 14:20:23 2021, in response to Re: White house resident denies care for American citizens, posted by AlM on Fri Sep 17 13:34:28 2021. Medicine should go to those who need it. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 17 14:21:22 2021, in response to Re: White house resident denies care for American citizens, posted by Dave on Fri Sep 17 14:20:23 2021. What if there is less medicine than is needed? |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Sep 17 14:26:31 2021, in response to Re: White house resident denies care for American citizens, posted by Dave on Fri Sep 17 14:20:23 2021. If enough is available, of course. But the general understanding is that there is not. So it has to be allocated, unfortunately.Are you asserting some of the supply is unused while others aren't getting it? |
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Posted by Jimmymc25 on Fri Sep 17 14:30:02 2021, in response to Re: White house resident denies care for American citizens, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 17 14:17:57 2021. When it came to the vaccine they said fuck it so now it’s fuck them. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Sep 17 14:44:48 2021, in response to Re: White house resident denies care for American citizens, posted by Dave on Fri Sep 17 13:30:22 2021. Even a stopped clock.... |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Sep 17 14:51:34 2021, in response to Re: White house resident denies care for American citizens, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 17 14:17:57 2021. A tad dramatic, don't ya think?🙄 |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Sep 17 14:52:05 2021, in response to Re: White house resident denies care for American citizens, posted by Jimmymc25 on Fri Sep 17 14:30:02 2021. We cannot "pick and choose" |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Sep 17 14:54:40 2021, in response to Re: White house resident denies care for American citizens, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 17 14:21:22 2021. Then it goes to whomever needs it the most. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 17 14:54:47 2021, in response to Re: White house resident denies care for American citizens, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Sep 17 14:52:05 2021. Sure we can. That’s what rationing is all about. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Sep 17 14:59:31 2021, in response to Re: White house resident denies care for American citizens, posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Sep 17 14:44:48 2021. . . . says the stopped clock. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Sep 17 15:05:09 2021, in response to Re: White house resident denies care for American citizens, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 17 14:54:47 2021. And the reasoning behind it?... |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 17 15:07:20 2021, in response to Re: White house resident denies care for American citizens, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Sep 17 15:05:09 2021. Because there isn’t enough medicine. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Sep 17 15:21:30 2021, in response to Re: White house resident denies care for American citizens, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 17 15:07:20 2021. The reasoning behind not treating those who need it most?.... |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 17 15:29:04 2021, in response to Re: White house resident denies care for American citizens, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Sep 17 15:21:30 2021. There is not enough medicine. The people who should get priority are either those who’ve been vaccinated or those who can’t. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Sep 17 15:40:26 2021, in response to Re: White house resident denies care for American citizens, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 17 15:29:04 2021. Who are we to judge? Slippery slope... |
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Posted by Easy on Fri Sep 17 15:44:13 2021, in response to Re: White house resident denies care for American citizens, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 17 15:29:04 2021. That's not how triage works. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 17 15:46:47 2021, in response to Re: White house resident denies care for American citizens, posted by Easy on Fri Sep 17 15:44:13 2021. That is true. But it’s grossly inequitable to deny someone treatment who did what was necessary to avoid getting sick in the first place. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 17 15:47:13 2021, in response to Re: White house resident denies care for American citizens, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Sep 17 15:40:26 2021. You’re making an excellent argument against socialism. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Sep 17 15:58:11 2021, in response to Re: White house resident denies care for American citizens, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 17 15:46:47 2021. We cannot be selective (in reality, punitive) with the afflictions people have whether or not they took the proper precautions or acted foolishly. Some odiot breaks his femur while doing the "milk crate challenge". Should the hospitals deny treatment for it? |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Sep 17 16:08:21 2021, in response to Re: White house resident denies care for American citizens, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 17 15:46:47 2021. In Idaho, where the bed:patient ratio is grossly upside down due to unvaccinated COVID-19 patients, they have moved to "best prospect of survival" triage mode.Not a peep about that from the usual suspects here. |
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Posted by Fred G on Fri Sep 17 16:23:26 2021, in response to Re: White house resident denies care for American citizens, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Sep 17 14:59:31 2021. Fuck you |
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Posted by Fred G on Fri Sep 17 16:29:28 2021, in response to Re: White house resident denies care for American citizens, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Sep 17 15:58:11 2021. We’ve taken care of smokers and fatsos for year |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Sep 17 16:37:36 2021, in response to Re: White house resident denies care for American citizens, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Sep 17 15:40:26 2021. When a product is in short supply, some mechanism will judge. One could sell it to the highest bidder. That way rich coastal elites would get a majority of the supply. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Sep 17 16:38:35 2021, in response to Re: White house resident denies care for American citizens, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Sep 17 15:58:11 2021. No, but perhaps they'll put them slightly farther toward the back of the queue. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Sep 17 17:31:16 2021, in response to Re: White house resident denies care for American citizens, posted by Fred G on Fri Sep 17 16:29:28 2021. Job security! |
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Posted by Fred G on Fri Sep 17 17:32:31 2021, in response to Re: White house resident denies care for American citizens, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Sep 17 17:31:16 2021. That’s true lol |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Sep 17 17:39:25 2021, in response to Re: White house resident denies care for American citizens, posted by Fred G on Fri Sep 17 17:32:31 2021. Cynical thought here: If everybody stopped using tobacco, think of how much $$$ doctors & hospitals would lose. I remember decades ago, the old "Penthouse" magazine ran a few interesting articles on how much $$$ would be lost if there was a cure for all cancer & how deep down they would not want that to happen. Makes you wonder sometimes. |
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Posted by Easy on Fri Sep 17 17:42:44 2021, in response to Re: White house resident denies care for American citizens, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Sep 17 17:39:25 2021. Think of how many lives could be saved if the federal government encouraged employers to only employ non-smokers. I don't see why that wouldn't be a thing. |
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Posted by Fred G on Fri Sep 17 17:57:50 2021, in response to Re: White house resident denies care for American citizens, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Sep 17 17:39:25 2021. That’s been a “conspiracy theory“ for sometime now that cancer is such a big business that they never wanna cure it. You’re right, it does take bringing out your cynical side to entertain it as possible |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Sep 17 18:30:44 2021, in response to Re: White house resident denies care for American citizens, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Sep 17 17:39:25 2021. If everybody stopped using tobacco, think of how much $$$ doctors & hospitals would lose.It would be gradual, like a cure for a wide range of cancer would be gradual. Hospitals have long been ratcheting up their number of rooms and back down as situations change. Doctors also often have to scale up or down at different points in their careers. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Sep 17 18:31:52 2021, in response to Re: White house resident denies care for American citizens, posted by Easy on Fri Sep 17 17:42:44 2021. Smokers don't injure anyone else when they're not smoking. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 17 18:46:45 2021, in response to Re: White house resident denies care for American citizens, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Sep 17 15:58:11 2021. You’re ignoring the fact that there aren’t enough resources to go around. Ideally, there would be enough for everyone. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Sep 17 19:29:26 2021, in response to Re: White house resident denies care for American citizens, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Sep 17 17:39:25 2021. If everybody stopped using tobacco, think of how much $$$ doctors & hospitals would loseI don't see the majority of smokers dying from chronic diseases. Most of the time, it'd be a heart attack that gets them. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Sep 17 22:47:17 2021, in response to Re: White house resident denies care for American citizens, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Sep 17 19:29:26 2021. From my experience, family, friends etc. its been some form of cancer, be it throat, lung, esophageal that brings on the grim reaper thanks to cigarettes. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Sep 17 23:06:34 2021, in response to Re: White house resident denies care for American citizens, posted by Fred G on Fri Sep 17 16:29:28 2021. My point! |
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