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Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Sat Aug 21 12:10:48 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Aug 21 11:30:56 2021.

Shut up. Stop bringing race into it. Brown and Babbitt were both perps and the shootings were justified.

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Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated

Posted by CHicagomotorman on Sat Aug 21 12:15:03 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 21 11:15:22 2021.

Figures

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Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated

Posted by CHicagomotorman on Sat Aug 21 12:15:24 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 21 11:26:14 2021.

Figures

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Re: Capitol Cop Who Murdered Ashli Babbitt Exonerated

Posted by CHicagomotorman on Sat Aug 21 12:25:15 2021, in response to Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Aug 21 10:08:46 2021.

Corrected.

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Re: Capitol Cop Who Murdered Ashli Babbitt Exonerated

Posted by CHicagomotorman on Sat Aug 21 12:25:26 2021, in response to Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Aug 21 10:08:46 2021.

Corrected.

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Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated

Posted by CHicagomotorman on Sat Aug 21 12:25:59 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by DAND124 on Sat Aug 21 11:09:35 2021.

Very good post.

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Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated

Posted by AlM on Sat Aug 21 12:26:32 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Aug 21 12:06:43 2021.

If an antifa guy threatens the life of a cop the way Ashli Babbitt did, I won't be upset if he gets shot.

Can you cite an example where this happened? Property crimes are different from threatening someone's life.



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Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated

Posted by CHicagomotorman on Sat Aug 21 12:26:54 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by jimmymc25 on Sat Aug 21 10:15:44 2021.

Bad.

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Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated

Posted by CHicagomotorman on Sat Aug 21 12:27:15 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Aug 21 10:20:11 2021.

Of course

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Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated

Posted by CHicagomotorman on Sat Aug 21 12:28:08 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by Dave on Sat Aug 21 11:24:21 2021.

IATWLROTFLMAO

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Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated

Posted by CHicagomotorman on Sat Aug 21 12:28:25 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by Fred G on Sat Aug 21 11:33:04 2021.

LOL

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Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated

Posted by CHicagomotorman on Sat Aug 21 12:29:51 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Aug 21 11:07:42 2021.

FIGURES

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Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated

Posted by CHicagomotorman on Sat Aug 21 12:30:11 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 21 11:23:09 2021.

FIGURES

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Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated

Posted by CHicagomotorman on Sat Aug 21 12:30:40 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by Dave on Sat Aug 21 11:25:09 2021.

No it was not.

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Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Aug 21 12:38:25 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sat Aug 21 12:10:48 2021.

WHERE IN THIS THREAD DID I "BRING RACE INTO IT"????

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Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Aug 21 12:39:11 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Murdered Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by CHicagomotorman on Sat Aug 21 12:25:15 2021.

Recorrected

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Re: Capitol Cop Who MURDERED Ashli Babbitt Exonerated

Posted by CHicagomotorman on Sat Aug 21 12:41:54 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Aug 21 12:39:11 2021.

Corrected again.

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Re: Capitol Cop Who MURDERED Ashli Babbitt Exonerated

Posted by CHicagomotorman on Sat Aug 21 12:41:54 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Aug 21 12:39:11 2021.

Corrected again.

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Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated

Posted by DAND124 on Sat Aug 21 12:43:03 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 21 11:25:57 2021.

Since everyone ended up dead before anyone could testify and both DA and police department had conflicts of interest we'll never know.

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Re: Capitol Cop Who MURDERED Ashli Babbitt Exonerated

Posted by CHicagomotorman on Sat Aug 21 12:44:09 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by Dave on Sat Aug 21 11:23:27 2021.

They were not insurrectionists, they were just assholes who got out of hand.

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Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated

Posted by DAND124 on Sat Aug 21 12:45:34 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Aug 21 11:30:56 2021.

Obama's justice department determined that the witness was lying.

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Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated

Posted by AlM on Sat Aug 21 12:49:22 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by DAND124 on Sat Aug 21 12:43:03 2021.

You shouldn't be accusing even dead people of accessory to murder without evidence.


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Re: Capitol Cop Who Defended Congress Against Ashli Babbitt Exonerated

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Aug 21 12:52:00 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who MURDERED Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by CHicagomotorman on Sat Aug 21 12:41:54 2021.

It wasn't murder, or any other crime.

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Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Aug 21 12:55:03 2021, in response to Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Aug 21 10:08:46 2021.

Jay, leave the Monday morning quarterback to the qualified people here. There's about 6 of us. He panicked and shot.

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Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated

Posted by DAND124 on Sat Aug 21 12:55:25 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by AlM on Sat Aug 21 12:49:22 2021.

I'm not accusing anyone of anything, I'm saying there was never the investigation that there should have been.

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Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Aug 21 12:55:26 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 21 11:15:22 2021.

He panicked.

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Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Aug 21 12:56:28 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by Dave on Sat Aug 21 11:23:27 2021.

They weren't insurrectionists, just stupid people who shouldn't have been there.

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Re: Capitol Cop Who MURDERED Ashli Babbitt Exonerated

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Aug 21 12:56:44 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who MURDERED Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by CHicagomotorman on Sat Aug 21 12:44:09 2021.

Yes, exactly.

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Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Aug 21 12:57:05 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by DAND124 on Sat Aug 21 12:45:34 2021.

What reason would the witness have to lie? He doesn't benefit, no matter what. The cop, on TY he other hand, has every reason to lie. Broen's autopsy showed he was shot six times, and was unarmed.

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Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Aug 21 12:57:14 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sat Aug 21 12:03:54 2021.

Did she trespass therein to commit a crime?

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Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Aug 21 12:57:58 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Aug 21 12:55:03 2021.

What evidence do you have to support that assertion?

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Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Aug 21 13:00:19 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Aug 21 12:57:14 2021.

What part of the video depicting Babbitt trying to force entry into the Senate chamber through a broken window, which the entire world has seen, did you miss?

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Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated

Posted by DAND124 on Sat Aug 21 13:01:53 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Aug 21 11:39:42 2021.

Doesn't the officer in the Babbit case have everything to gain by lying as well?

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Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated

Posted by DAND124 on Sat Aug 21 13:05:05 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Aug 21 12:57:05 2021.

https://news.stlpublicradio.org/government-politics-issues/2015-03-24/why-did-the-justice-department-conclude-that-hands-up-dont-shoot-was-a-myth

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Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated

Posted by Fred G on Sat Aug 21 13:05:31 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Aug 21 12:55:03 2021.

LOL!

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Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Aug 21 13:07:06 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by DAND124 on Sat Aug 21 13:01:53 2021.

No, because there are several videos from multiple angles, which clearly document the entire incident. Lying would only make it worse for the cop in the face of such evidence.

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Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated

Posted by DAND124 on Sat Aug 21 13:10:06 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sat Aug 21 12:05:35 2021.

You and Spider-Pig(i think) are the only ones being consistent.

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Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated

Posted by AlM on Sat Aug 21 13:11:02 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by DAND124 on Sat Aug 21 12:55:25 2021.

I'm not accusing anyone of anything

...


Do you feel the same way about Harvey Milk's alliance with a group the assassinated a Congressman?




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Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated

Posted by AlM on Sat Aug 21 13:17:28 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by DAND124 on Sat Aug 21 13:01:53 2021.

Lying about what?

- That Babbitt stepped through a window of a door that had just been broken?

- That there were many other people with her, who were shouting, or even shouting threats?

- That she and the others were advancing toward the officer?

- That there were unarmed members of Congress, whom the officer was required to protect, right around the corner?

Can you explain which of these items is in the slightest dispute?



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Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated

Posted by DAND124 on Sat Aug 21 13:23:05 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by AlM on Sat Aug 21 13:11:02 2021.

Are you claiming that Milk and the People's Temple weren't allied?

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Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated

Posted by AlM on Sat Aug 21 13:26:40 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by DAND124 on Sat Aug 21 13:23:05 2021.

Any onus of proof that they were, and in a way that might have been detrimental to Milk, is on you, not on me. You made the accusation.




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Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated

Posted by DAND124 on Sat Aug 21 13:29:17 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by AlM on Sat Aug 21 13:17:28 2021.

Not making any claims about Babbit just noting Jayzee's inconstancy

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Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Aug 21 13:33:16 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by DAND124 on Sat Aug 21 13:29:17 2021.

In what way am I "inconsistent "? Comparing Ashli Babbitt to Harvey Milk is a false equivalency.

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Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated

Posted by DAND124 on Sat Aug 21 13:36:45 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Aug 21 13:33:16 2021.

You accept the DOJ findings for Babbit but no Michael Brown.

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Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated

Posted by DAND124 on Sat Aug 21 13:37:44 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by AlM on Sat Aug 21 13:26:40 2021.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peoples_Temple_in_San_Francisco

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Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Aug 21 13:41:55 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Aug 21 12:38:25 2021.

You always bring race into everything, you little mother fucker.


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Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Aug 21 13:44:32 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Aug 21 13:00:19 2021.

And that warrants the death penalty, you little motherfucker?

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Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated

Posted by AlM on Sat Aug 21 13:46:47 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by DAND124 on Sat Aug 21 13:37:44 2021.

That only says that the People's Temple supported Milk, not that Milk supported The People's Temple.

Every politician running for office can be demonstrated after the fact to have been supported by some odious people. Both Bushes, Clinton, Obama, McCain, and Trump, for example.


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Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Aug 21 13:47:54 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Aug 21 11:30:56 2021.

Michael Brown's family should have been billed for the bullet.

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Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 21 13:49:37 2021, in response to Re: Capitol Cop Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Exonerated, posted by AlM on Sat Aug 21 11:56:32 2021.

No, Michael Brown looked way more threatening. THIW.

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