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Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Mar 4 09:47:15 2021, in response to Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......, posted by ntrainride on Thu Mar 4 09:03:44 2021.

Holy shit!! A senior moment brain fart!! I am embarrassed as I know almost every line of every episode.
"Steady now!!!"
And George and Gracie's son Ronnie Burns played Wallace.

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Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Mar 4 09:52:51 2021, in response to Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......, posted by ntrainride on Thu Mar 4 09:03:44 2021.

Although I never went to the Adelphi to see the Honeymooners as I was a toddler, I did go to the CBS studios before they moved to Miami to watch Gleason's later show "The American Scene Magazine" and Joe the Bartender in the audience. If you remember there was always a choreography dance at the beginning by Sammy Spear. Well he was such a perfectionist that we had to sit through about 10 retakes of the dance for about an hour before the rest of the show!

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Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......

Posted by TonyG on Thu Mar 4 10:06:19 2021, in response to Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Mar 3 04:18:05 2021.

I don't.

I don't think anyone should be banned from anywhere based solely on their political beliefs.

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Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Mar 4 11:01:33 2021, in response to Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 4 09:29:51 2021.

A
Not only are you an attention whore but you obviously have a daddy issue.

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Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 4 11:12:19 2021, in response to Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......, posted by Train Dude on Thu Mar 4 11:01:33 2021.

You are a seriously fucked-up individual.

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Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Mar 4 11:13:11 2021, in response to Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 4 11:12:19 2021.

Praise from ceaser and no, I won't play daddy for you.

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Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......

Posted by ntrainride on Thu Mar 4 12:36:21 2021, in response to Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......, posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Mar 4 09:52:51 2021.

good ol' sammy spear.

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Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......

Posted by ntrainride on Thu Mar 4 13:05:24 2021, in response to Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......, posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Mar 4 09:47:15 2021.

that was the cool jive talking kid, right?

the episode where ralph and ed are supposed to be going to the racoon convention in minneapolis with alice and trixie always puzzled me.

in the 50's, did trains to both minneapolis and norfolk, virginia leave from, i guess pennsylvania station? norfolk definitely pensy but minneapolis?

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Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Mar 4 13:15:40 2021, in response to Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......, posted by ntrainride on Thu Mar 4 13:05:24 2021.

In TV anything was possible. I did a TV background/extra job where production built a whole phony LIRR Station alongside Metro North tracks upstate. All the signs and maps were for LIRR.

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Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......

Posted by TransitChuckG on Thu Mar 4 13:26:30 2021, in response to Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......, posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Mar 4 13:15:40 2021.

Thanks, Jeff Rosen

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Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......

Posted by ntrainride on Thu Mar 4 23:40:22 2021, in response to Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......, posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Mar 4 13:15:40 2021.

like eternal sunshine of the spotless mind. staring mount vernon as montauk.

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Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Fri Mar 5 07:43:50 2021, in response to Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......, posted by ntrainride on Thu Mar 4 13:05:24 2021.

May have connected in Chicago (nowadays, Broadway Limited (I think) to Chicago, then Empire Builder to MSP)

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Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......

Posted by ntrainride on Sat Mar 6 07:55:11 2021, in response to Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Fri Mar 5 07:43:50 2021.

just to keep it in the context of the honeymooners universe, so trixie and norton and alice and ralph have to leave bedford stuyvesant, with luggage, and get to a train station or a terminal where it was possible to catch trains departing for (or making connections to) minneapolis and norfolk.

ok.

first, how would they have left 328 chauncey street (damn, never realized it's a block from ralph avenue :} ). by subway? the fulton street subway station was the closest. with the broadway elevated a few more blocks away.

if it was by train my guess is it would have been the subway. i know in at least one episode alice mentions "going down to dekalb avenue" to do some shopping. so the assumption is "their station" was ralph avenue on the a line.

it's highly probable they took the train, considering how expensive a cab from central brooklyn to an out-of-boro destination for four adults with luggage would be. and it was the 50's, and its brooklyn, so it ain't all that unusual to travel heavy. with all that said i'll accept that they could have had a friend drive them.

but, again, to where?

easiest choice is pennsylvania station. in that case, the implied scenario is, there were departures scheduled for two separate trains headed in opposite directions leaving roughly at the same time.

first, it's obvious that alice and trixie boarded the correct train and ralph and norton screwed up. just sayin'.

but if it was penn, one could probably check out an official guide for a random day in 1955 to see what may have been available. i'll have to look into it, by and by.

i was sorta hoping it could have been some north river jersey terminal but it seems unlikely. i don't know...jersey central (connecting) to d.c. and (erie? erie lackawanna?) hoboken to chicago, okay but that's two different terminals.

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Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Sat Mar 6 08:39:00 2021, in response to Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......, posted by ntrainride on Sat Mar 6 07:55:11 2021.

If I remember the episode correctly they took a cab to ENY where they got the LIRR to Jamaica and changed for a train to Penn. However Norton got the times wrong as there was no Chinese Restaurants anywhere near ENY or Jamaica.

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Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Mar 6 09:03:44 2021, in response to Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sat Mar 6 08:39:00 2021.

Seems convoluted. Why wouldn’t they just take the subway to Penn or take a cab to Penn, Jamaica, or Woodside?

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Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......

Posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Mar 6 09:52:49 2021, in response to Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Mar 6 09:03:44 2021.

Especially since 328 Chauncey is set in Bensonhurst.

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Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Sat Mar 6 12:10:05 2021, in response to Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Mar 6 09:03:44 2021.

IAWTP. Major backtracking. They were at ENY, 1-seat ride on the A to NYP. But the writers probably didn't know shit about transit (much like their modern counterparts) 🙄

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Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......

Posted by Mtk52983 on Sat Mar 6 12:40:48 2021, in response to Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Sat Mar 6 12:10:05 2021.

You mean PATH trains don't operate in the NYC Subway?

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Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Mar 6 16:06:24 2021, in response to Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......, posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Mar 6 09:52:49 2021.

Is it?

I thought it was just the old telephone number.

My old relatives said "GL6" for Glendale 6 but we didn't live in Glendale.

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Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Mar 6 17:16:57 2021, in response to Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......, posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Mar 6 09:52:49 2021.

Especially since 328 Chauncey is set in Bensonhurst.

Nope, the name Bensonhurst was used instead of Bushwick was because it sounded amusing.

Bill Newkirk

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Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Sat Mar 6 17:27:32 2021, in response to Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Mar 6 17:16:57 2021.

Catfish said it was SET in Bensonhurst, not where Chaucey is.

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Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......

Posted by 3-9 on Sun Mar 7 04:56:42 2021, in response to Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Sat Mar 6 12:10:05 2021.

It would probably be quicker if they took the BMT to Essex, then switched to the D train to 34th Street. Skip the trip through downtown Brooklyn and Manhattan.

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Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......

Posted by ntrainride on Sun Mar 7 06:52:59 2021, in response to Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......, posted by 3-9 on Sun Mar 7 04:56:42 2021.

with everyone carrying luggage? i'm doubtful. the longer walk to the broadway el, the transfer, and the walk from herald sqaure to seventh avenue unless they switched yet again at west fourth makes it a really annoying trip.

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Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Mar 7 10:20:37 2021, in response to Re: The liberals who wanted to shut the bakery......, posted by 3-9 on Sun Mar 7 04:56:42 2021.

The quickest way would be to borrow Freddy Muller's car like they did for the safety award, but this time they shouldn't have an accident with Judge Hurdle.

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