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Re: 500,000?

Posted by AlM on Mon Feb 22 12:10:00 2021, in response to Re: 500,000?, posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Feb 22 12:02:16 2021.

I sincerely doubt these people wouldn't have been just as reckless with Hillary Clinton as President.

I agree. And Hillary Clinton would not have had the power to control people's lives the way the Chinese government did.

So it's not Trump's fault that our infection rate has been higher than China's. It is partially Trump's fault that it has been higher than that of many Western countries. Failure to use the federal government's purchasing power to increase mask production early on is definitely Trump's doing.



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Re: 500,000?

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Feb 22 14:42:22 2021, in response to Re: 500,000?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Feb 22 07:11:28 2021.

By all means, he was. That doesn't mean that I defended him.

And THEN came the virus......

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Re: 500,000?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 22 14:45:41 2021, in response to Re: 500,000?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Feb 22 14:42:22 2021.

Trump was not reelected by any means.

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Re: 500,000?

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Feb 22 17:37:20 2021, in response to Re: 500,000?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Feb 22 08:27:21 2021.

The REAL reason is that our government cannot impose mandatory lockdowns like other countries did.

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Re: TDS

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Feb 22 17:40:19 2021, in response to Re: TDS, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Feb 22 08:37:57 2021.

Tell whoever made this title that it's Grand Central Terminal,, not station.

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Re: TDS

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Feb 22 17:41:08 2021, in response to Re: TDS, posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Feb 22 10:14:19 2021.

Yep. Mommy and Daddy didn't pay enough attention to them.

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Re: 500,000?

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Feb 22 17:43:19 2021, in response to Re: 500,000?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Feb 22 17:37:20 2021.

Actually, the states can do it under the police powers granted to them by the 10th Amendment to "protect the welfare, safety, and health of the public". In reality, though, no state governor from either party wanted to touch that with a fork, because it would have been political suicide.

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Re: 500,000?

Posted by AlM on Mon Feb 22 17:44:06 2021, in response to Re: 500,000?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Feb 22 17:37:20 2021.

Japan didn't impose a mandatory lockdown and it had a way lower rate of infection.



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Re: 500,000?

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Feb 22 17:44:20 2021, in response to Re: 500,000?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Feb 22 17:37:20 2021.

Actually, the states can do it under the police powers granted to them by the 10th Amendment to "protect the welfare, safety, and health of the public". In reality, though, no state governor from either party wanted to touch that with a fork, because it would have been political suicide.

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Re: TDS

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Feb 22 17:47:28 2021, in response to Re: TDS, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Feb 22 17:40:19 2021.

I'll give you a pass because I like you but I absolutely hate when someone makes that distinction, and there's always someone on Facebook that does it. I am proud to call it Station all the time. Except for the Shuttle, I call it's station "terminal".

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Re: 500,000?

Posted by Catfish 44 on Mon Feb 22 18:55:12 2021, in response to Re: 500,000?, posted by AlM on Mon Feb 22 17:44:06 2021.

What does their international travel stats look like?

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Re: 500,000?

Posted by AlM on Mon Feb 22 19:16:24 2021, in response to Re: 500,000?, posted by Catfish 44 on Mon Feb 22 18:55:12 2021.

Japanese tourists and business people are generally all over the world. Have you been to a national park in the west lately (pre-pandemic)?

Japan is as prosperous as the United States and its people travel as much.



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Re: 500,000?

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Feb 22 19:27:08 2021, in response to Re: 500,000?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Feb 22 17:43:19 2021.

No one would listen to that, and everyone knows it. And, for a virus, they won't do it.

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Re: 500,000?

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Feb 22 19:29:08 2021, in response to Re: 500,000?, posted by AlM on Mon Feb 22 17:44:06 2021.

That's because they're smart and keeps foreigners out.

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Re: 500,000?

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Feb 22 19:30:33 2021, in response to Re: 500,000?, posted by AlM on Mon Feb 22 17:44:06 2021.

I don't know about that. My son Arthur (who some of you might remember from Branford) is in the Navy stationed in Yokosuka, Japan, in an apartment off base in the city and he said the covid numbers are very high there and rising. Luckily he already got both shots.

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Re: 500,000?

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Feb 22 19:31:48 2021, in response to Re: 500,000?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Feb 22 17:44:20 2021.

The thing is, only a tiny fraction get it, and of them, only a fraction of that die or get really fucked up from it. So, there's NO reason to enact such an edict that no one will listen to anyway.

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Re: TDS

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Feb 22 19:40:58 2021, in response to Re: TDS, posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Feb 22 17:47:28 2021.

It's ok, you can break my balls! I said that as a ball breaker anyway!

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Re: TDS

Posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Feb 22 19:47:21 2021, in response to Re: TDS, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Feb 22 17:40:19 2021.

iawtlp

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Re: 500,000?

Posted by AlM on Mon Feb 22 19:51:08 2021, in response to Re: 500,000?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Feb 22 19:29:08 2021.

They didn't keep traveling Japanese from returning without quarantining.



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Re: 500,000?

Posted by AlM on Mon Feb 22 19:53:38 2021, in response to Re: 500,000?, posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Feb 22 19:30:33 2021.

"High" is relative. Japan has had 7500 deaths in a population of 125 million.



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Re: 500,000?

Posted by Catfish 44 on Mon Feb 22 19:53:41 2021, in response to Re: 500,000?, posted by AlM on Mon Feb 22 19:16:24 2021.

Ok

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Re: 500,000?

Posted by Catfish 44 on Mon Feb 22 19:55:44 2021, in response to Re: 500,000?, posted by AlM on Mon Feb 22 19:53:38 2021.

Thatís remarkable

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Re: 500,000?

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Feb 22 19:55:49 2021, in response to Re: 500,000?, posted by AlM on Mon Feb 22 19:51:08 2021.

Like I said, different society and government.

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Re: 500,000?

Posted by AlM on Mon Feb 22 20:08:34 2021, in response to Re: 500,000?, posted by Catfish 44 on Mon Feb 22 19:55:44 2021.

It's almost certainly due to the fact that in Japan almost everybody has been wearing a mask almost all the time for the last 11 months.



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Re: 500,000?

Posted by AlM on Mon Feb 22 20:11:29 2021, in response to Re: 500,000?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Feb 22 19:55:49 2021.

Different society but in this case, not different government. Japan did not impose mandatory lockdowns. I am refuting this statement of yours:

The REAL reason is that our government cannot impose mandatory lockdowns like other countries did.




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Re: 500,000?

Posted by Catfish 44 on Mon Feb 22 20:14:07 2021, in response to Re: 500,000?, posted by AlM on Mon Feb 22 20:08:34 2021.

Thatís also remarkable.

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Re: 500,000?

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Feb 22 20:30:29 2021, in response to Re: 500,000?, posted by AlM on Mon Feb 22 20:08:34 2021.

Proof by assertion fallacy.

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Re: 500,000?

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Feb 22 20:34:58 2021, in response to Re: 500,000?, posted by AlM on Mon Feb 22 20:11:29 2021.

Oh, goody. In any event, who cares what they do?

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Re: 500,000

Posted by ntrainride on Mon Feb 22 20:38:31 2021, in response to 500,000, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Feb 21 14:36:55 2021.

shut. the. fuck. up. you do absolutely nothing that's useful or helpful or kind.

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Re: TDS

Posted by ntrainride on Mon Feb 22 21:50:23 2021, in response to Re: TDS, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Feb 22 19:40:58 2021.

...but us railfans know it's "terminal". like hoboken.

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Re: TDS

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Feb 22 21:56:22 2021, in response to Re: TDS, posted by ntrainride on Mon Feb 22 21:50:23 2021.

I don't care. It might be wrong but Grand Central Station sounds better and that's what I'm always going to call it. And nobody says Penn Terminal.

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Re: TDS

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Feb 22 21:57:33 2021, in response to Re: TDS, posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Feb 22 21:56:22 2021.

...pretty soon some jaboney is going to come on and say get thee to SubChat.

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Re: TDS

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Feb 22 22:06:24 2021, in response to Re: TDS, posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Feb 22 21:57:33 2021.

LOL no. You having trouble figuring out context? And FTR, I prefer "Grand Central Station" myself, so you go ahead and hate that now 😷

Nobody says Penn Terminal because it isn't a terminal—all but four tracks are through tracks.

Now let's move on to Boston's North and South Stations, which are pedantically terminals . . .

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Re: TDS

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 22 22:13:39 2021, in response to Re: TDS, posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Feb 22 21:56:22 2021.

Because Penn Station isnít a terminal.

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Re: TDS

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 22 22:15:52 2021, in response to Re: TDS, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 22 22:13:39 2021.

I want to add that although I call it Grand Central Terminal, and Iím the kind of person who gets pedantic about certain things, I donít have a problem at all with Grand Central Station. A terminal is a kind of station and is calling it Grand Central Station going to get it confused with something else, like omitting ďGeorgeĒ from the ďGeorge Washington Bridge?Ē

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Re: 500,000

Posted by #4 SeaBeachFred on Mon Feb 22 23:00:23 2021, in response to Re: 500,000, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Feb 21 20:33:25 2021.

Perhaps they might be a litle over the top but I find it really pathetic that every damn liberal on this board seemedto give incompetent DemoRAT governors Grisham, Cuomo and Newsom get a free pass for their incompetence and malfeasance in handling not only their state's finances but their miserable handling of the Chinese virus that has strangled our country. The fact is Bomo Cuomo put the covid carriers in the retirement homes last year and it led to a large death rate as the most susceptible to the virus were now roomates of sorts with the sick. While this was going on The Chinese News Network (CNN) and MSNBC did everything but kiss Cuomo's ass by giving a get out of jail card. What's worse is that I come on board after seven months and I have to read about our governor out here, the gruesome Newsom who has made bungling an art form in my state. At least someone in the liberal camp should have the guts and courage to stand up and say these two dorks have been piss poor in leading their states, and don't get me started wit that baboon in New Mexico.

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Re: TDS

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Feb 22 23:54:39 2021, in response to Re: TDS, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Feb 22 22:06:24 2021.

PS. Buffalo Central Terminal was a through station.

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Re: 500,000

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Feb 23 00:36:49 2021, in response to Re: 500,000, posted by #4 SeaBeachFred on Mon Feb 22 23:00:23 2021.

I definitely agree with that post

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Re: TDS

Posted by ntrainride on Tue Feb 23 01:17:29 2021, in response to Re: TDS, posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Feb 22 21:56:22 2021.

you kidding, right?

pennsylvania station has NEVER been called pennsylvania terminal.

now, do i really have to explain the difference?

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Re: 500,000

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Feb 23 04:30:55 2021, in response to Re: 500,000, posted by #4 SeaBeachFred on Mon Feb 22 23:00:23 2021.

Very good post. What about the baboon in Illinois?

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Re: TDS

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Feb 23 06:26:00 2021, in response to Re: TDS, posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Feb 22 21:56:22 2021.

But Pennsylvania Station is just that, a station that trains pass through. Only the LIRR and NJT terminate there, while Amtrak passes through. Grand Central Terminal is literally that. A terminal where the tracks all end. Grand Central Station is the Post Office address where we sent out payments to in the 1970s whenever we purchased something from a magazine or TV commercial.

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Re: 500,000

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Feb 23 06:56:49 2021, in response to Re: 500,000, posted by #4 SeaBeachFred on Mon Feb 22 23:00:23 2021.

What the fuck does that have to do with my post about posters clogging up SubChat pages with silliness?

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Re: 500,000

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Feb 23 08:05:24 2021, in response to Re: 500,000, posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Feb 23 06:56:49 2021.

IAWTP

For the record, I dislike Cuomo and Newsome. I don't know anything about Grisham.

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Re: 500,000

Posted by AlM on Tue Feb 23 11:01:21 2021, in response to Re: 500,000, posted by #4 SeaBeachFred on Mon Feb 22 23:00:23 2021.

Care to point to a positive post about Cuomo on this board?

I can't stand the guy, and I have sometimes pointed out errors in negative posts about him*, but I've never seen an actual post approving of him here.

* As I have with respect to some erroneous negative posts about the Trump family.



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Re: 500,000

Posted by #4 SeaBeachFred on Tue Feb 23 12:32:48 2021, in response to Re: 500,000, posted by AlM on Tue Feb 23 11:01:21 2021.

Well perhaps you might mention that the media and press have been totally missing in action, doing lit tle but kissing Cuomo's ass without a scintilla of criticism. Call it guilt by association but as long as CNN and MSNBC continue to carry Cuomo and Newsom's water you guys on the left can feel satisfied that your ilk is continuing to fool the public.

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Re: 500,000

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Feb 23 12:41:29 2021, in response to Re: 500,000, posted by #4 SeaBeachFred on Tue Feb 23 12:32:48 2021.

He might mention that but he won't.

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Re: 500,000

Posted by AlM on Tue Feb 23 12:43:15 2021, in response to Re: 500,000, posted by #4 SeaBeachFred on Tue Feb 23 12:32:48 2021.

I rarely defend the media; I'm certainly not about to do so with respect to Cuomo.

But you maligned people on this board specifically. Do you care to retract that?





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Re: 500,000

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Feb 23 12:49:04 2021, in response to Re: 500,000, posted by AlM on Tue Feb 23 12:43:15 2021.

"But you maligned people on this board specifically. Do you care to retract that?"

Why single Fred out when 70% of the posters here malign others on the board. I'm not saying he doesn't, just that he certainly isn't the only one. Just because the Sea Beach is the ugliest and dirtiest subway line in NYC doesn't mean we should malign Fred.

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Re: TDS

Posted by ntrainride on Tue Feb 23 18:18:15 2021, in response to Re: TDS, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Feb 23 06:26:00 2021.

although it would be cool to have honest regional train service from long island through penn station to points west and south.

and yes, i know what keeps that from happening.

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Re: 500,000

Posted by ntrainride on Tue Feb 23 18:23:04 2021, in response to Re: 500,000, posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Feb 23 12:49:04 2021.

i reject your declamation of the sea beach line, sir.

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