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Re: Wingate, Brooklyn

Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Jan 18 11:50:43 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Jan 14 23:25:49 2021.

Wingate was invented by the Department of City Planning in the sixties after the high school. (Also, the original Wingate Field was renamed Midwood Field, after Wingate HS was built and got its own field.) It was originally called Pigtown because of all the pig farms there. When it was fully developed after WW II, real estate developers knew Pigtown wouldn't sell houses, so they renamed it Dodger Town. That name stuck until the Dodgers left in 1957. People just started calling it East Flatbush and most still do. I don't think anyone says they are from Wingate.

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Re: Wingate, Brooklyn

Posted by Dave on Mon Jan 18 11:55:50 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Jan 18 11:45:09 2021.

Ten clicks from Nutbush!

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Re: Wingate, Brooklyn

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 18 12:23:28 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Jan 18 11:45:09 2021.

On the map that Stephen posted.

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Re: Wingate, Brooklyn

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Jan 18 12:23:49 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jan 18 05:26:12 2021.

I heard that at one time there were also a lot of Swedes in Bay Ridge.

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Re: Wingate, Brooklyn

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 18 12:25:40 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Jan 18 11:41:58 2021.

The whole idea of naming the bridge after him was to honor the Norwegian community in Bay Ridge. It’s not like they picked a random sailor.

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Re: Wingate, Brooklyn

Posted by Catfish 44 on Mon Jan 18 12:29:40 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Jan 18 11:50:43 2021.

I’ve never heard anyone say they are from Wingate

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Re: Wingate, Brooklyn

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jan 18 13:08:53 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 18 11:10:08 2021.

I sayb I'm from the REAL Bay Ridge! A Bayridginal, as it were.

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Re: Wingate, Brooklyn

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 18 13:14:19 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by Catfish 44 on Mon Jan 18 11:41:50 2021.

So will Corona be renamed?

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Re: Wingate, Brooklyn

Posted by northshore on Mon Jan 18 13:14:59 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jan 18 03:06:38 2021.

The previous name of Sunset Park was South Brooklyn

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Re: Wingate, Brooklyn

Posted by northshore on Mon Jan 18 13:26:01 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 18 13:14:19 2021.

Corona was renamed to Willets Point.
The real Willets Point is in Bayside, the site of Fort Totten. The subway station was originally named Willets Point BOULEVARD, a minor cross street there at the time.Willets Point BOULEVARD was a road that leads to the real Willets Point in Bayside.

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Re: Wingate, Brooklyn

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jan 18 13:39:15 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by Catfish 44 on Mon Jan 18 11:45:23 2021.

Lapskaus Boulevard

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Re: Wingate, Brooklyn

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jan 18 13:41:04 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Jan 18 12:23:49 2021.

Not really. In fact, never knew any. My block had Irish, Norwegian, Irish, Jewish, Italian, Polish, German, but no Swedes.

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Re: Wingate, Brooklyn

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 18 13:43:03 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Jan 18 11:44:43 2021.

Which are also named after the Netherlands' one.

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Re: Wingate, Brooklyn

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 18 13:44:37 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by northshore on Mon Jan 18 13:26:01 2021.

That is only a part of Corona. The center of Corona was always around 103rd and Roosevelt. Presumably it was centered on the LIRR station before the IRT/BMT Corona Line was built.

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Re: Wingate, Brooklyn

Posted by Catfish 44 on Mon Jan 18 14:37:31 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 18 13:14:19 2021.

Nah

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Re: Wingate, Brooklyn

Posted by Catfish 44 on Mon Jan 18 14:37:56 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jan 18 13:39:15 2021.

There you go thank you

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Re: Wingate, Brooklyn

Posted by northshore on Mon Jan 18 14:41:21 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 18 13:44:37 2021.

The LIRR Corona Station was built at National Racecourse (National Street)

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Re: Wingate, Brooklyn

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Jan 18 15:36:47 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by Catfish 44 on Mon Jan 18 12:29:40 2021.

Not even Wingate HS graduates?

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Re: Wingate, Brooklyn

Posted by Catfish 44 on Mon Jan 18 16:01:32 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Jan 18 15:36:47 2021.

I’m sure they do but that’s a school not a neighborhood

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Re: Wingate, Brooklyn

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jan 18 18:35:11 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by northshore on Mon Jan 18 13:14:59 2021.

No, that was Carroll Gardens.

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Re: Wingate, Brooklyn

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 18 18:40:28 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jan 18 18:35:11 2021.

Really? It was Bay Ridge all the way to like Prospect Avenue or wherever Sunset Park ends?

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Re: Wingate, Brooklyn

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Jan 18 18:54:48 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jan 18 13:41:04 2021.

I worked with a guy that lived on 55th & 9th. He told me that there were several Swede families in and around that area. That was back in the early 70s

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Re: Wingate, Brooklyn

Posted by Catfish 44 on Mon Jan 18 20:03:37 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Jan 18 18:54:48 2021.

I believe it

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Re: Wingate, Brooklyn

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jan 19 12:31:34 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 18 18:40:28 2021.

No, but the neighborhood of "Carroll Gardens" was known as South Brooklyn

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Re: Wingate, Brooklyn

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 19 12:33:27 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jan 19 12:31:34 2021.

So where was the border between BR and SB?

Note that until 1894 the southern border of the City of Brooklyn was at 60th Street.

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Re: Wingate, Brooklyn

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jan 19 13:26:09 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 19 12:33:27 2021.

There were other neighborhoods in between, including Park Slope, Windsor Terrace, etc...

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Re: Wingate, Brooklyn

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 19 13:56:31 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jan 19 13:26:09 2021.

So what neighborhood was it at, say, 25th and 4th?

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Re: Wingate, Brooklyn

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jan 19 15:43:58 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 19 13:56:31 2021.

I am guessing maybe Greenwood or Park Slope?

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Re: Wingate, Brooklyn

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 19 15:48:31 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jan 19 15:43:58 2021.

I don’t know, that’s why I ask.

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Re: Wingate, Brooklyn

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jan 19 15:52:47 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 19 15:48:31 2021.

TTYTT, that was always a "no man's land" (GREAT name for a lesbian bar, BTW) name-wise. It could even be Industry City.

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Re: Wingate, Brooklyn

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 19 15:57:38 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jan 19 15:52:47 2021.

Thanks. According to Wiki it was part of “South Brooklyn” which also included “Carroll Gardens” and everything else.

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Re: Wingate, Brooklyn

Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Jan 21 19:12:28 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by Catfish 44 on Mon Jan 18 16:01:32 2021.

Wingate isn’t even a high school anymore.it was split into four schools on the Wingate Campus.

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Re: Wingate, Brooklyn

Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Jan 21 19:14:34 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 18 12:25:40 2021.

The idea was that he was there before Verrazano.

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Re: Wingate, Brooklyn

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 21 19:23:46 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Jan 21 19:14:34 2021.

Well, the first 2 people to discover New York Bay were 2 Italians, Vespucci and Verrazzano

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Re: Wingate, Brooklyn

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 21 19:55:44 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Jan 21 19:14:34 2021.

No. New York is not in Newfoundland. There is some inconclusive evidence that the Vikings reached farther south, but not New York.

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Re: Wingate, Brooklyn

Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Jan 21 21:39:18 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 21 19:55:44 2021.

I didn’t say I agree, but just that it was claimed.

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Re: Wingate, Brooklyn

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 21 21:57:28 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Jan 21 21:39:18 2021.

I don’t think the proponents of Leif Ericsson claimed that he sailed that far south, only that he was the first European to reach North America, which is true.

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Re: Wingate, Brooklyn

Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Jan 22 18:13:28 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 21 21:57:28 2021.

So they felt that was a good enough reason for the bridge to be named after him?

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Re: Wingate, Brooklyn

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jan 22 18:18:57 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Jan 22 18:13:28 2021.

Yes. Had Tadeusz Kosciuszko ever been to the Newtown Creek?

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Re: Wingate, Brooklyn

Posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Jan 23 11:19:46 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jan 22 18:18:57 2021.

You never know. Maybe he heard of a good Polish restaurant in Greenpoint.

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Re: Wingate, Brooklyn

Posted by Elkeeper on Sat Jan 23 14:51:22 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Jan 22 18:13:28 2021.

Why not? They names bridges after Mario Cuomo and Ed Koch, didn't they?

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Re: Wingate, Brooklyn

Posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Jan 24 07:55:22 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by Elkeeper on Sat Jan 23 14:51:22 2021.

They weren't explorers. We we talking about the reason the community wanted the Verrazzano to be named after Leif Erickson.

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