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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jan 11 10:18:26 2021, in response to Jews build houses, Buyden gets pissed off, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Jan 11 10:16:04 2021. Might as well get Pedo-Joe and the rest of the anti-Israel democRATS on the record early. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jan 11 10:26:43 2021, in response to Jews build houses, Buyden gets pissed off, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Jan 11 10:16:04 2021. Come on, man . . . what do you expect from Jim Crow Joe? |
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Posted by Dan on Mon Jan 11 13:05:52 2021, in response to Jews build houses, Buyden gets pissed off, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Jan 11 10:16:04 2021. Under Trump Israel established diplomatic relations with some of it's moderate Arab neighbors. Those Arab nations view Iran as the real threat in the region, not Israel. The Palestinans become less important every day. |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Tue Jan 12 07:06:48 2021, in response to Jews build houses, Buyden gets pissed off, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Jan 11 10:16:04 2021. No, these homes will not be in (the recognized borders of) Israel, but in the West Bank. They are not a "subdivision" but rather an extraterritorial "settlement". You know that, but deliberately use misleading language to make it sound like much ado over nothing. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Tue Jan 12 11:11:55 2021, in response to Re: Jews build houses, Buyden gets pissed off, posted by Dan on Mon Jan 11 13:05:52 2021. That is true. That is one of Trump's foreign policy accomplishments. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Jan 12 11:46:37 2021, in response to Re: Jews build houses, Buyden gets pissed off, posted by Dan on Mon Jan 11 13:05:52 2021. Quid Pro Joe has promised to reinstate the "Pay to Slay" programs of the balestinian authority.He just nominated another (well promised anyway) Jew-hater into his inner circle. That must be the only qualification to be on Buydens team. Hope you all like your tax increases. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 12 12:19:33 2021, in response to Re: Jews build houses, Buyden gets pissed off, posted by Dyre Dan on Tue Jan 12 07:06:48 2021. False. Better re-check the Oslo Accords. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Jan 12 19:11:21 2021, in response to Re: Jews build houses, Buyden gets pissed off, posted by Dyre Dan on Tue Jan 12 07:06:48 2021. The West Bank is part of Israel. Has been since the end of the 6 Day War. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jan 12 20:11:37 2021, in response to Re: Jews build houses, Buyden gets pissed off, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Jan 12 11:46:37 2021. That should make mini-man and bingbong and a few others very pleased. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 12 21:16:29 2021, in response to Re: Jews build houses, Buyden gets pissed off, posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Jan 12 19:11:21 2021. That’s the Jordanian name. The real name is Judea and Samaria. |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Tue Jan 12 22:52:39 2021, in response to Re: Jews build houses, Buyden gets pissed off, posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Jan 12 19:11:21 2021. The West Bank is part of Israel. Has been since the end of the 6 Day War.If all the West Bank is part of Israel, are all its residents Israeli citizens? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 12 23:18:10 2021, in response to Re: Jews build houses, Buyden gets pissed off, posted by Stephen Bauman on Tue Jan 12 22:52:39 2021. Are all residents of the United States citizens of the United States? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jan 12 23:18:18 2021, in response to Re: Jews build houses, Buyden gets pissed off, posted by Stephen Bauman on Tue Jan 12 22:52:39 2021. Are all residents living in the United States American Citizens ? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jan 12 23:18:49 2021, in response to Re: Jews build houses, Buyden gets pissed off, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 12 23:18:10 2021. LOL - for once we're exactly on the same page |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 12 23:59:25 2021, in response to Re: Jews build houses, Buyden gets pissed off, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jan 12 23:18:49 2021. Come to think of it, I missed the obvious response to him:Are all residents of New Zealand citizens of New Zealand? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jan 13 00:51:46 2021, in response to Re: Jews build houses, Buyden gets pissed off, posted by Stephen Bauman on Tue Jan 12 22:52:39 2021. Open mouth, insert foot, lol. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Jan 13 00:59:28 2021, in response to Re: Jews build houses, Buyden gets pissed off, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 12 23:18:10 2021. Are all the riders of the 7 train 7 train residents??? |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Jan 13 08:41:30 2021, in response to Re: Jews build houses, Buyden gets pissed off, posted by Dyre Dan on Tue Jan 12 07:06:48 2021. Then how come the AP called it "Occupied Jordan" in it's bylines if you think they're in the nation of the "West Bank"? |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Jan 13 08:42:34 2021, in response to Re: Jews build houses, Buyden gets pissed off, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jan 12 23:18:18 2021. Of course! If you're a british tourist in Florida you're a "Dreamer"! |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Jan 13 09:01:12 2021, in response to Re: Jews build houses, Buyden gets pissed off, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jan 12 23:18:18 2021. Are all residents living in the United States American Citizens ?All residents who were born in the US are citizens. Are all "residents" of the West Bank who were born there Israeli citizens? |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Jan 13 09:13:21 2021, in response to Re: Jews build houses, Buyden gets pissed off, posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Jan 13 09:01:12 2021. You want them to kill themselves? Suggest to them to become israel citizens and you'll see a real insurrection. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 13 10:12:11 2021, in response to Re: Jews build houses, Buyden gets pissed off, posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Jan 13 09:01:12 2021. Do you have same complaint about New Zealand, where all residents who are born in New Zealand are not citizens of New Zealand? |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Jan 13 11:26:12 2021, in response to Re: Jews build houses, Buyden gets pissed off, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Jan 13 09:13:21 2021. You want them to kill themselves? Suggest to them to become israel citizens and you'll see a real insurrection.That's the dilemma of annexing the entire West Bank into Israel. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Jan 13 11:29:47 2021, in response to Re: Jews build houses, Buyden gets pissed off, posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Jan 13 11:26:12 2021. Annexing?? They won it in the 6 Day War. If you don't want to lose land, don't start a war. |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Jan 13 11:42:04 2021, in response to Re: Jews build houses, Buyden gets pissed off, posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Jan 13 11:29:47 2021. Annexing?? They won it ...That still begs the issues of how to administer conquered territory and how to treat the people who already live there. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jan 13 12:31:44 2021, in response to Re: Jews build houses, Buyden gets pissed off, posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Jan 13 11:29:47 2021. Never mind the land being up for grabs anyway, since the Arabs refused the 1947 agreement. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jan 13 12:32:35 2021, in response to Re: Jews build houses, Buyden gets pissed off, posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Jan 13 11:42:04 2021. If it weren't not involving Jews would you care? I don't see you fretting over lands annexed by China. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jan 13 12:34:52 2021, in response to Re: Jews build houses, Buyden gets pissed off, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jan 13 12:32:35 2021. Wonder if he refers to Hong Kong as "Xiang-gang", since the CCP is out to wipe out any other Chinese language other than Mandarin ("Hong Kong" is Cantonese). |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Jan 13 12:52:20 2021, in response to Re: Jews build houses, Buyden gets pissed off, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jan 13 12:32:35 2021. If it weren't not involving Jews would you care?Still avoiding the question? I don't see you fretting over lands annexed by China. I did not initiate this thread. I kept to the OP's topic. If might contribute to a thread regarding the current situation in Hong Kong, if you start one. My participation would depend on the thread's content. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Jan 13 13:42:37 2021, in response to Re: Jews build houses, Buyden gets pissed off, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jan 13 12:34:52 2021. The only government of China that I recognize is the exiled government of Nationalist China based in Taiwan. |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Jan 13 23:09:57 2021, in response to Re: Jews build houses, Buyden gets pissed off, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Jan 13 09:13:21 2021. You want them to kill themselves? Suggest to them to become israel citizens and you'll see a real insurrection.Israel appears to have birthright citizenship for those born in Israeli territory after Israel's creation. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Thu Jan 14 16:37:41 2021, in response to Re: Jews build houses, Buyden gets pissed off, posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Jan 13 11:42:04 2021. Historically, conquered territory is turned over and administered by the conqueror, and the conquered have no expectation of rights. Western civilizations extending even limited rights to the conquered is unusual in world history. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Jan 14 16:44:37 2021, in response to Re: Jews build houses, Buyden gets pissed off, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Thu Jan 14 16:37:41 2021. Historically, conquering countries haven't been democracies.When they have been, they have tended to act different toward the conquered than totalitarian conquerors. See World War I and World War II. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 14 16:53:13 2021, in response to Re: Jews build houses, Buyden gets pissed off, posted by AlM on Thu Jan 14 16:44:37 2021. The Belgian Congo would like a word. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Jan 14 18:04:57 2021, in response to Re: Jews build houses, Buyden gets pissed off, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 14 16:53:13 2021. Understood. But presumably Israel wouldn't want to say "Look, we're doing better than the Belgians did in the Congo."Also, late 19th century European democracies had far stronger control by the upper classes than they have had since World War I. |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Sat Jan 16 17:48:47 2021, in response to Re: Jews build houses, Buyden gets pissed off, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Thu Jan 14 16:37:41 2021. The nations of the world basically agreed that that would no longer be the case when signing the UN Charter and the 1949 Geneva Convention, both of which Israel signed.In a world with nuclear weapons, recognizing such a thing as a "right of conquest" is much too dangerous. So it is no longer recognized. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jan 16 18:18:20 2021, in response to Re: Jews build houses, Buyden gets pissed off, posted by AlM on Thu Jan 14 18:04:57 2021. I don't think that makes countries more likely to oppress colonial populations. France was fairly democratic and tried desperately to hold onto Algeria and Indochina after WWII. The United States was one of the most democratic countries in 1899 and yet still fought the Philippine-American War.And I just realized I can't spell the Philippines. |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Sat Jan 16 22:16:27 2021, in response to Re: Jews build houses, Buyden gets pissed off, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jan 16 18:18:20 2021. Actually, you did spell it correctly |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jan 16 22:25:39 2021, in response to Re: Jews build houses, Buyden gets pissed off, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Sat Jan 16 22:16:27 2021. After a struggle and cutting and pasting from Google, which is why I pointed it out. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Sat Jan 16 22:45:58 2021, in response to Re: Jews build houses, Buyden gets pissed off, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jan 16 22:25:39 2021. Whenever I'm not sure about the spelling of a word or name I open another tab and type the word I think it is in the address bar and I always get the correct spelling. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Jan 17 07:15:38 2021, in response to Re: Jews build houses, Buyden gets pissed off, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sat Jan 16 22:45:58 2021. Whenever I'm not sure about the spelling of a word or name I open another tab and type the word I think it is in the address bar and I always get the correct spelling.That's what I do, too. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jan 17 09:00:33 2021, in response to Re: Jews build houses, Buyden gets pissed off, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sat Jan 16 22:45:58 2021. Web browsers have built in spell checkers but this time it didn’t give me any correction suggestions and I kept re-spelling it wrong, forcing the Googling. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Jan 17 09:04:53 2021, in response to Re: Jews build houses, Buyden gets pissed off, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jan 16 18:18:20 2021. The problem is that there is no consistent spelling of the name Phillip. |
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