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So.....Who won the debate?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Oct 23 13:45:31 2020


I figured there would be a roaring thread here.....from either side claiming..... But nothing?

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Re: So…Who won the debate?

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Oct 23 13:52:31 2020, in response to So.....Who won the debate?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Oct 23 13:45:31 2020.

If the left is silent, that means Trump won.

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Re: So.....Who won the debate?

Posted by AlM on Fri Oct 23 14:40:50 2020, in response to So.....Who won the debate?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Oct 23 13:45:31 2020.

Nothing.



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Re: So.....Who won the debate?

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Oct 23 15:53:54 2020, in response to So.....Who won the debate?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Oct 23 13:45:31 2020.

Fox news won. They had the highest TV ratings!

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Re: So…Who won the debate?

Posted by bingbong on Fri Oct 23 16:02:39 2020, in response to Re: So…Who won the debate?, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Oct 23 13:52:31 2020.

No, it doesn’t,

The only winner was the moderator.

No envelopes were pushed. Everything remains effectively as it was. Get over it. If trump wanted a reset, he failed. Biden, for his part did no harm.

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Re: So.....Who won the debate?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 23 16:04:33 2020, in response to So.....Who won the debate?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Oct 23 13:45:31 2020.

That's because they both won. Trump showed he could be civil and actually answer questions and let Biden respond, and Biden showed he was still on the ball and not suffering from cognitive decline (the first debate showed that, but the second debate made it clear).

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Re: So…Who won the debate?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 23 16:06:57 2020, in response to Re: So…Who won the debate?, posted by bingbong on Fri Oct 23 16:02:39 2020.

By that logic, Biden won, as Biden can win by coasting and avoiding any pitfalls (like a bad debate), while Trump needs a major boost. Biden didn't stumble and Trump didn't get a boost.

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Re: So.....Who won the debate?

Posted by AlM on Fri Oct 23 16:15:37 2020, in response to Re: So.....Who won the debate?, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 23 16:04:33 2020.

Biden also showed that he had a genuine agenda and not a radical one.


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Re: So…Who won the debate?

Posted by AlM on Fri Oct 23 16:16:57 2020, in response to Re: So…Who won the debate?, posted by bingbong on Fri Oct 23 16:02:39 2020.

When you're 10 points ahead, a tie in a side skirmish is a win. Biden is running out the clock.


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Re: So.....Who won the debate?

Posted by mtk52983 on Fri Oct 23 16:36:20 2020, in response to So.....Who won the debate?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Oct 23 13:45:31 2020.

The winners were those of us smart enough not to watch

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Re: So…Who won the debate?

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri Oct 23 16:44:46 2020, in response to Re: So…Who won the debate?, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Oct 23 13:52:31 2020.

They were hiding during all of the analysis threads anyway.

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Re: So.....Who won the debate?

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Oct 23 18:09:31 2020, in response to So.....Who won the debate?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Oct 23 13:45:31 2020.

Trump won but Biden wins media coverage.

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Re: So.....Who won the debate?

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Oct 23 18:10:10 2020, in response to Re: So.....Who won the debate?, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 23 16:04:33 2020.

The future is female.

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Re: So.....Who won the debate?

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Fri Oct 23 19:38:09 2020, in response to Re: So.....Who won the debate?, posted by mtk52983 on Fri Oct 23 16:36:20 2020.

IAWTP

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Re: So.....Who won the debate?

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Fri Oct 23 19:39:10 2020, in response to Re: So.....Who won the debate?, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Oct 23 18:10:10 2020.

Sucks for you then

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Re: So…Who won the debate?

Posted by bingbong on Fri Oct 23 19:58:36 2020, in response to Re: So…Who won the debate?, posted by AlM on Fri Oct 23 16:16:57 2020.

What else should he have done?

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Re: So.....Who won the debate?

Posted by bingbong on Fri Oct 23 20:30:36 2020, in response to Re: So.....Who won the debate?, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 23 16:04:33 2020.

Watched the whole thing. I saw Trump unraveling towards the end, had it gone for another half-hour he'd be back to rude crude and loud. He knew he had to restrain himself, and it was obviously getting to him. Biden wowed me at one point only....the last question. But I didn't expect to be wowed at all.

If anyone won, it was the moderator.

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Re: So.....Who won the debate?

Posted by Easy on Fri Oct 23 20:41:50 2020, in response to Re: So.....Who won the debate?, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 23 16:04:33 2020.

One candidate is capable of not being a jackass for 90 consecutive minutes and the other has been able to demonstrate that he is not senile. Ou system is broken.

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Re: So.....Who won the debate?

Posted by AlM on Fri Oct 23 21:01:48 2020, in response to Re: So.....Who won the debate?, posted by Easy on Fri Oct 23 20:41:50 2020.

But note the difference.

Trump was not a jackass for 90 minutes. Why is that news? Because usually he has been a jackass. Trump broke an observed pattern.

Biden showed he wasn't senile. Why is that news? Not because Biden has shown actual signs of senility, but because Trump has claimed he was senile. Biden didn't break an observed pattern; he broke a false allegation.



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Re: So…Who won the debate?

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Oct 23 23:15:49 2020, in response to Re: So…Who won the debate?, posted by bingbong on Fri Oct 23 19:58:36 2020.

..Avoid that Hitler reference. The U.S was friends with Hitler?? Really. Never heard that one in history class.
Any Hitler references should be avoided at all costs. Just shows desperation, ignorance or just looking for some twisted sensationalism.
You just don't go there.

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Re: So…Who won the debate?

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Oct 24 02:09:58 2020, in response to Re: So…Who won the debate?, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Oct 23 23:15:49 2020.

Yeah as soon as a comparison is made to Hitler and the Nazis, they are on falling ground as it's ridiculous

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Re: So.....Who won the debate?

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Oct 24 02:11:19 2020, in response to Re: So.....Who won the debate?, posted by mtk52983 on Fri Oct 23 16:36:20 2020.

Why? It was nothing like the last one

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Re: So…Who won the debate?

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Oct 24 02:20:16 2020, in response to Re: So…Who won the debate?, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Oct 24 02:09:58 2020.

"Nazis" is how people speak today.

Calling everyone a racist is wearing off and not as effective, so "Nazi" is the weapon word of choice for the Left.

Who knows I'm right?

AlM
Fred G
bingbong
Spider-Pig
JayZeeBMT
clearaspect(especially clearaspect)
Tony G
Nilet
dand124
Easy
mtk


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Re: So.....Who won the debate?

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Oct 24 02:27:51 2020, in response to Re: So.....Who won the debate?, posted by mtk52983 on Fri Oct 23 16:36:20 2020.

when people heard the rules and about the mute button, I think it made people lose interest because Trump controlled is not what people.

Honestly I think the Left wishes Trump could have behaved the same as he did in the first debate.

Here is why I am voting for Trump.

Kathy Griffin
MagaTeens
Jussie
Missouri Couple protecting home
Chick-fil-A
AOC
The Left blaming cows for global warming
Judge Kavanaugh fiasco
Social media censorship(twitter vs. conservatives)
SCOTUS(the case vs. e-harmony as an example)

and then there's everyday posts by people like,

AlM
Fred G
Spider-Pig
JayZeeBMT
bingbong
Joe V
clearaspect

who are a constant reminder of how fast this country might fall if the Democrats expand their power.

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Re: So…Who won the debate?

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Oct 24 06:55:36 2020, in response to Re: So…Who won the debate?, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Oct 24 02:20:16 2020.

But Trump's transparently clear bigotry, casual cruelty, and cold-hearted indifference to the suffering of anyone not himself, is consistent with many of the same attributes shared by the most vicious leaders of the WWII Nazi regime.

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Re: So…Who won the debate?

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Oct 24 08:43:11 2020, in response to Re: So…Who won the debate?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Oct 24 06:55:36 2020.

"...is consistent with many of the same attributes shared by the most vicious leaders of the WWII Nazi regime."

Are you equating the Trump Administration with the Nazi holocaust?

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Re: So…Who won the debate?

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Oct 24 08:52:24 2020, in response to Re: So…Who won the debate?, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Oct 24 08:43:11 2020.

No, I'm saying Trump shares many of the same characteristics as some of the Nazi regime's most vicious leaders.

Where did you get a comparison between the Trump administration and the Holocaust out of that????????????????????????????

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Re: So…Who won the debate?

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Oct 24 08:54:44 2020, in response to Re: So…Who won the debate?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Oct 24 06:55:36 2020.

Oh please. All leftist propaganda

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Re: So…Who won the debate?

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Oct 24 08:55:31 2020, in response to Re: So…Who won the debate?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Oct 24 08:52:24 2020.

Absolutely ridiculous. Either that or you really have no idea what Hitler and Nazis had done

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Re: So.....Who won the debate?

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Oct 24 08:56:18 2020, in response to Re: So.....Who won the debate?, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Oct 24 02:27:51 2020.

Yup

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Re: So…Who won the debate?

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Oct 24 09:05:57 2020, in response to Re: So…Who won the debate?, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Oct 24 08:54:44 2020.

No, it is a factual description of Trump's behavior.

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Re: So…Who won the debate?

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Oct 24 09:06:38 2020, in response to Re: So…Who won the debate?, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Oct 24 08:55:31 2020.

No, Trump is a sociopath, just like many Nazi leaders were.

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Re: So…Who won the debate?

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Oct 24 09:11:11 2020, in response to Re: So…Who won the debate?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Oct 24 09:06:38 2020.

TDS or Tight Panties or both.

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Re: So…Who won the debate?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Oct 24 10:12:13 2020, in response to Re: So…Who won the debate?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Oct 24 08:52:24 2020.

I know what you mean. But you can’t use any other fascists because nobody knows who they are, and if you use Hitler, people immediately assume you mean the Holocaust. Fucking idiots.

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Re: So…Who won the debate?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Oct 24 10:13:45 2020, in response to Re: So…Who won the debate?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Oct 24 06:55:36 2020.

I prefer Mussolini comparisons because it avoids idiots immediately yelling “Holocaust” and is the only other fascist people have heard about.

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Re: So.....Who won the debate?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Oct 24 10:14:32 2020, in response to Re: So.....Who won the debate?, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Oct 24 02:27:51 2020.

People are such fools. Why would you want your president to act like an idiot? And then still vote for him?

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Re: So…Who won the debate?

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Oct 24 10:19:12 2020, in response to Re: So…Who won the debate?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Oct 24 10:13:45 2020.

You're right. If I had cited Trump's behavior as having common characteristics with Mussolini (which it does), then nobody would be bringing up the Holocaust.

They'd still defend their cult leader some other way, though...

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Re: So…Who won the debate?

Posted by AlM on Sat Oct 24 11:01:58 2020, in response to Re: So…Who won the debate?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Oct 24 10:12:13 2020.

because nobody knows who they are

There's always Mussolini and Franco. Franco especially is definitely a good match to what Trump would like to be (but isn't, thank goodness).



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Re: So.....Who won the debate?

Posted by AlM on Sat Oct 24 11:06:55 2020, in response to Re: So.....Who won the debate?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Oct 24 10:14:32 2020.

Personal affinity?



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Re: So…Who won the debate?

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Oct 24 11:53:24 2020, in response to Re: So…Who won the debate?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Oct 24 08:52:24 2020.

"Trump shares many of the same characteristics as some of the Nazi regime's most vicious leaders."

Like what for example? I don't see Trump bent on extermination of a particular people.
I don't see Trump advocating world domination or executing political opponents.
Just connecting the dots here, the Nazi regime's most vicious leaders were led by Hitler & thus all responsible for the Holocaust either by association or deed.
Bottom line here, mentioning Trump & Hitler in the same sentence in any way shape or context is ignoring history & just plain wrong.
Besides, ask any clear thinking person what is the first thing that comes to mind when you mention Hitler. I'd gamble that would be the Holocaust and not Volkswagons.

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Re: So…Who won the debate?

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Oct 24 11:55:35 2020, in response to Re: So…Who won the debate?, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Oct 24 11:53:24 2020.

Like many top Nazis, Trump is a sociopath.

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Re: So…Who won the debate?

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Oct 24 11:56:23 2020, in response to Re: So…Who won the debate?, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Oct 24 11:53:24 2020.

By the way, please point out where in this thread, I mentioned Hitler by name at all.

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Re: So…Who won the debate?

Posted by AlM on Sat Oct 24 12:03:39 2020, in response to Re: So…Who won the debate?, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Oct 23 23:15:49 2020.

The U.S was friends with Hitler??

Biden said "good relationship," not "friends."

This sounds reasonably accurate:

The Roosevelt administration publicly hailed the Munich Agreement of 1938 for avoiding war but privately realized it was only a postponement that called for rapid rearming.

Link




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Re: So…Who won the debate?

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Sat Oct 24 12:05:36 2020, in response to Re: So…Who won the debate?, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Oct 24 11:53:24 2020.

Not always:



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Re: So.....Who won the debate?

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Sat Oct 24 12:08:48 2020, in response to So.....Who won the debate?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Oct 23 13:45:31 2020.

Trump

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Re: So.....Who won the debate?

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Sat Oct 24 12:09:44 2020, in response to Re: So.....Who won the debate?, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Fri Oct 23 19:39:10 2020.

Rim shot!!

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Re: So.....Who won the debate?

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Oct 24 12:58:13 2020, in response to So.....Who won the debate?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Oct 23 13:45:31 2020.

Trump.

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Re: So…Who won the debate?

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Oct 24 13:29:21 2020, in response to Re: So…Who won the debate?, posted by AlM on Fri Oct 23 16:16:57 2020.

Holy shit, if I didn't know better, I would think that you actually think Biden's gonna win this!!

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Re: So…Who won the debate?

Posted by AlM on Sat Oct 24 13:33:06 2020, in response to Re: So…Who won the debate?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Oct 24 13:29:21 2020.

I do think it's quite likely, though not a sure thing. You're the one who is so certain.





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Re: So.....Who won the debate?

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Oct 24 13:50:51 2020, in response to Re: So.....Who won the debate?, posted by bingbong on Fri Oct 23 20:30:36 2020.

You must have watched a different debate

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