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Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Oct 21 13:36:27 2020

I'm surprised no one else has posted on this.

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by AlM on Wed Oct 21 13:44:34 2020, in response to Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Oct 21 13:36:27 2020.

Didn't see it.

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Oct 21 13:49:57 2020, in response to Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Oct 21 13:36:27 2020.

“What we have to create is a civil union law"

When you have no say, pull, or money involved, I guess the only way to still sound important is to talk about things you used to control years ago.

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Oct 21 13:50:51 2020, in response to Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Oct 21 13:36:27 2020.

At least with you, they won't ignore it.

I wonder if he isn't trying to instigate a schism?

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Oct 21 13:52:19 2020, in response to Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by AlM on Wed Oct 21 13:44:34 2020.

Really? It's all over the news. Oh well.

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Oct 21 13:52:41 2020, in response to Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Oct 21 13:49:57 2020.

Context, context. Is he Catholic or Marxist? is supposed to be the question, not whether he "sound(s) important" or not.

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Oct 21 13:54:45 2020, in response to Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Oct 21 13:52:19 2020.

Irish state-run radio seems super-happy about it.

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by Mtk52983 on Wed Oct 21 14:13:46 2020, in response to Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Oct 21 13:52:19 2020.

How are you doing in Tennessee?

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Wed Oct 21 16:32:15 2020, in response to Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by Mtk52983 on Wed Oct 21 14:13:46 2020.

I love it down here.

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by Elkeeper on Wed Oct 21 17:07:37 2020, in response to Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Oct 21 13:54:45 2020.

SSSHHHH!!! Don't mention any of that to Luch!!! Especially the Irish Radio part!

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by Elkeeper on Wed Oct 21 17:09:09 2020, in response to Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Oct 21 13:50:51 2020.

What schism? He mentioned civil ceremonies, not church weddings.

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Oct 21 17:16:53 2020, in response to Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Oct 21 13:52:41 2020.

I thought it was to grasp at 5 more seconds of fame from soemone who has no skin in the game anymore like they did years ago.

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by AlM on Wed Oct 21 17:46:51 2020, in response to Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by Elkeeper on Wed Oct 21 17:09:09 2020.

Olog has been promoting a Roman Catholic Church schism for many years.

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by Dave on Wed Oct 21 18:25:11 2020, in response to Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by Chicagomotorman on Wed Oct 21 16:32:15 2020.

Knew you would.

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Oct 21 18:32:12 2020, in response to Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by Dave on Wed Oct 21 18:25:11 2020.

I love it down here.

Glad to hear this. It's hard to be happy about anything these days. You may have made it out of Chi-Town in the nick of time.

Bill Newkirk

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Wed Oct 21 19:03:44 2020, in response to Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by Dave on Wed Oct 21 18:25:11 2020.

I'm glad that you got the World Series down there.

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by Dave on Wed Oct 21 21:38:07 2020, in response to Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by Chicagomotorman on Wed Oct 21 19:03:44 2020.

I guess. It's was such a screwy season that it doesn't mean that much.

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Oct 21 23:02:56 2020, in response to Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by Chicagomotorman on Wed Oct 21 16:32:15 2020.

Yeah, I knew you would! None of the city nonsense.

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Oct 22 06:49:16 2020, in response to Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Oct 21 13:36:27 2020.

How come you never call him Pope Francis? That is his name now.

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by AlM on Thu Oct 22 08:31:53 2020, in response to Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Oct 22 06:49:16 2020.

He follows one or more sites that are connected in to right wing Catholic groups that don't recognize Francis's legitimacy as a pope.

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by Mitch45 on Thu Oct 22 11:10:07 2020, in response to Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Oct 21 13:36:27 2020.

Many Traditional Catholics have considered the papacy to be vacant at best and occupied by anti-Popes at worst, since Vatican II in 1962.

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Oct 22 11:13:44 2020, in response to Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by Mitch45 on Thu Oct 22 11:10:07 2020.

Define "many."

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Re: Pope Francis

Posted by bingbong on Thu Oct 22 11:28:40 2020, in response to Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by AlM on Thu Oct 22 08:31:53 2020.

A non-point, as he was selected the same way they've been doing this for millennia.

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Re: Pope Francis

Posted by bingbong on Thu Oct 22 11:32:40 2020, in response to Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Oct 22 06:49:16 2020.

Which also makes him a hypocrite. Doing this on one hand and claiming anti-semitism on the other.

Showing mutual respect, as seen by a wide majority of the Jewish people, garners not only respect but reinforces legitimate claims of discrimination.

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Oct 22 11:35:22 2020, in response to Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Oct 22 06:49:16 2020.

Because that dispute of his legitimacy as the actual pope has never been adjudicated in a reputable court of law.

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by AlM on Thu Oct 22 11:45:40 2020, in response to Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Oct 22 11:13:44 2020.

Thousands!

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Oct 22 12:13:36 2020, in response to Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Oct 22 06:49:16 2020.

What he said.

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Oct 22 12:13:47 2020, in response to Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by AlM on Thu Oct 22 08:31:53 2020.

What he said.

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Oct 22 12:15:13 2020, in response to Re: Pope Francis, posted by bingbong on Thu Oct 22 11:32:40 2020.

I AM NOT A HYPOCRITE!

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Re: Pope Francis

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Oct 22 12:16:10 2020, in response to Re: Pope Francis, posted by bingbong on Thu Oct 22 11:32:40 2020.

Look in the mirror. There's your hypocrite.

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Oct 22 12:17:47 2020, in response to Re: Pope Francis, posted by bingbong on Thu Oct 22 11:32:40 2020.

Look in the mirror. There's your hypocrite.

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Re: Pope Francis

Posted by bingbong on Thu Oct 22 12:21:47 2020, in response to Re: Pope Francis, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Oct 22 12:16:10 2020.

Didn't see one.

You won't find me disrespecting any Jewish Faith leader.

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Oct 22 12:24:26 2020, in response to Re: Pope Francis, posted by bingbong on Thu Oct 22 12:21:47 2020.

You are a hypocrites.

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Oct 22 12:24:29 2020, in response to Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by Mitch45 on Thu Oct 22 11:10:07 2020.

How many of them are left from 1962?

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Re: Pope Francis

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Oct 22 12:24:38 2020, in response to Re: Pope Francis, posted by bingbong on Thu Oct 22 11:32:40 2020.

The church still refuses to hand over documents and turn over stolen children.

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Oct 22 12:24:59 2020, in response to Re: Pope Francis, posted by bingbong on Thu Oct 22 12:21:47 2020.

Correction hypocrite.

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Re: Pope Francis

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Oct 22 12:35:58 2020, in response to Re: Pope Francis, posted by bingbong on Thu Oct 22 12:21:47 2020.

IAWTP. You just disrespect all Jews

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Oct 22 12:42:01 2020, in response to Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by Mitch45 on Thu Oct 22 11:10:07 2020.

The Reichskonkordat says it was before Vatican II.

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Re: Pope Francis

Posted by bingbong on Thu Oct 22 13:11:43 2020, in response to Re: Pope Francis, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Oct 22 12:24:38 2020.

Heh?

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Re: Pope Francis

Posted by bingbong on Thu Oct 22 13:16:46 2020, in response to Re: Pope Francis, posted by Train Dude on Thu Oct 22 12:35:58 2020.

Wrong. I do admit I have some issues with certain individuals. That has todo with those individuals, not any ethnic or religious practice. Stop being a hateful asshole and you’ll see a change.

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Re: Pope Francis

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Oct 22 13:45:35 2020, in response to Re: Pope Francis, posted by bingbong on Thu Oct 22 13:11:43 2020.

Not sure I really need to turn over 80 years of stonewalling since it's such famous history.

But lessor known, and as annoying to me personally is the disrespect the Church gave to Jews in New York during a meeting back in the '70s. We refuse to meet on Sundays, you can only talk to us on Saturdays instead.

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Re: Pope Francis

Posted by AlM on Thu Oct 22 13:50:38 2020, in response to Re: Pope Francis, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Oct 22 13:45:35 2020.

So you don't like the Church. That's a very fair opinion. Lots of people other than you hold it, for some very good reasons.

That opinion doesn't make Pope Francis any more or less legitimate a leader of that church.

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by Mitch45 on Thu Oct 22 15:11:06 2020, in response to Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Oct 21 13:36:27 2020.

Many Traditional Catholics have considered the papacy to be vacant at best and occupied by anti-Popes at worst, since Vatican II in 1962.

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Oct 22 15:50:10 2020, in response to Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by Mitch45 on Thu Oct 22 15:11:06 2020.

02:02:38

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Re: Pope Francis

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Oct 22 17:59:19 2020, in response to Re: Pope Francis, posted by bingbong on Thu Oct 22 13:16:46 2020.

So it just so happens that every person you have an issue with happens to be a Jew? Now there is one big, fucking coincidence. Maybe you caused the issue by your Jew-hating attitude.

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by Dyre Dan on Sun Oct 25 02:29:03 2020, in response to Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Oct 22 11:35:22 2020.

What is to adjudicate? The previous pope resigned, and acknowledges Francis as the legitimate pope, does he not?

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Re: Pope Francis

Posted by Dyre Dan on Sun Oct 25 02:46:34 2020, in response to Re: Pope Francis, posted by Train Dude on Thu Oct 22 17:59:19 2020.

I think Jews are more likely to agree with bingbong on many things than members of some other religions (such as Catholics) are. In what way has she ever displayed a "Jew-hating attitude"?

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