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Republicans plan to oust Queen Elizabeth II

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 16 15:18:18 2020

. . .as Queen of Barbados

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Re: Republicans plan to oust Queen Elizabeth II

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Sep 16 15:19:45 2020, in response to Republicans plan to oust Queen Elizabeth II, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 16 15:18:18 2020.

Race is probably a factor.

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Re: Republicans plan to oust Queen Elizabeth II

Posted by kew gardens teleport on Wed Sep 16 16:56:56 2020, in response to Republicans plan to oust Queen Elizabeth II, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 16 15:18:18 2020.

They could at least have had the decency to hold a referendum.

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Re: Republicans plan to oust Queen Elizabeth II

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 16 18:22:35 2020, in response to Re: Republicans plan to oust Queen Elizabeth II, posted by kew gardens teleport on Wed Sep 16 16:56:56 2020.

Makes them sound a bit like what they call "Republicans" in Ireland. Speaking of which, it really is tiresome seeing Leinster House toadies and such speaking for their masters in Berlin.

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Re: Republicans plan to oust Queen Elizabeth II

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 16 18:43:34 2020, in response to Re: Republicans plan to oust Queen Elizabeth II, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 16 18:22:35 2020.

The British monarchy is ethnically German.

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Re: Republicans plan to oust Queen Elizabeth II

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Sep 16 18:58:34 2020, in response to Re: Republicans plan to oust Queen Elizabeth II, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 16 18:43:34 2020.

Dey is white!

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Re: Republicans plan to oust Queen Elizabeth II

Posted by AlM on Wed Sep 16 20:36:57 2020, in response to Re: Republicans plan to oust Queen Elizabeth II, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 16 18:43:34 2020.

Not really any more. The Queen's mother's family is Scottish and English in its entirety. The Queen's father's mother's family was half English.

As for Prince Phillip, only his mother was of German ancestry.

So Elizabeth and Charles are more English than anything else. And once you get to William (after all, Charles is over 70), you'll have very solidly English Spencers as half the mix.



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Re: Republicans plan to oust Queen Elizabeth II

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 16 21:12:10 2020, in response to Re: Republicans plan to oust Queen Elizabeth II, posted by AlM on Wed Sep 16 20:36:57 2020.

Actually no. Queen Mary (paternal grandmother of the Queen) was born in the UK, but had German parents.

The Duke of Edinburgh is 100% German. The Greek former royal family is also German. King George I of the Hellenes (his grandfather) was a Danish prince who was elected King of the Hellenes. He wasn't Danish though, as his father King Christian IX was a German prince elected King of Denmark. Prince Philip's paternal grandmother was a Russian princess, i.e. German.

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Re: Republicans plan to oust Queen Elizabeth II

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Sep 16 21:16:12 2020, in response to Re: Republicans plan to oust Queen Elizabeth II, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 16 21:12:10 2020.

Belligerents in WWI had heads of state on both sides who were related to each other. Your post explains how that could be.

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Re: Republicans plan to oust Queen Elizabeth II

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 16 23:05:51 2020, in response to Re: Republicans plan to oust Queen Elizabeth II, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Sep 16 21:16:12 2020.

First cousins!

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Re: Republicans plan to oust Queen Elizabeth II

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Sep 17 06:24:47 2020, in response to Re: Republicans plan to oust Queen Elizabeth II, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 16 23:05:51 2020.

Yup. A family fight writ large. Reunions in later years would have been very awkward, to say the least...

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Re: Republicans plan to oust Queen Elizabeth II

Posted by AlM on Thu Sep 17 08:47:50 2020, in response to Re: Republicans plan to oust Queen Elizabeth II, posted by AlM on Wed Sep 16 20:36:57 2020.

OK, Queen Mary's mother was much more German than I thought. I didn't go far enough back.

But 3 of the last 4 spouses (Elizabeth the Queen Mother, Diana Spencer, and Katherine Middleton) have been from the British Isles by ancestry.

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Re: Republicans plan to oust Queen Elizabeth II

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 17 11:07:02 2020, in response to Re: Republicans plan to oust Queen Elizabeth II, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Sep 17 06:24:47 2020.

European royals until the late 20th Century were the inbred hicks of Europe.

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Re: Republicans plan to oust Queen Elizabeth II

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 17 11:07:55 2020, in response to Re: Republicans plan to oust Queen Elizabeth II, posted by AlM on Thu Sep 17 08:47:50 2020.

The Queen of England is just as English as the King of Jordan!

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Re: Republicans plan to oust Queen Elizabeth II

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Sep 17 11:30:03 2020, in response to Re: Republicans plan to oust Queen Elizabeth II, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 17 11:07:02 2020.

That's just messy!

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