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New Zealand - No New Cases Day 3

Posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Sep 16 21:44:07 2020

It's tomorrow in New Zealand. They reported no new community cases for Sept 16th, for the third day in a row.

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Re: New Zealand - No New Cases Day 3

Posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Sep 16 22:03:12 2020, in response to New Zealand - No New Cases Day 3, posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Sep 16 21:44:07 2020.

How many of their IRT trains were late or canceled?

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Re: Aotearoa—No New Cases Day 3?

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 16 23:07:48 2020, in response to New Zealand - No New Cases Day 3, posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Sep 16 21:44:07 2020.



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Re: Aotearoa—No New Cases Day 3?—Queen Jacinda Causes Recession

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 17 02:38:30 2020, in response to Re: Aotearoa—No New Cases Day 3?, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 16 23:07:48 2020.

AFP/IBT

New Zealand Plunges Into Recession As Economy Shrinks Record 12%

By Neil Sands
09/16/20 at 11:58 PM
New Zealand plunged into recession for the first time in a decade Thursday, as data confirmed a record-breaking economic collapse that forced Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern to defend her pandemic response ahead of next month's general election.

The 12.2 percent contraction in April-June was "by far the largest" since records began, national data agency Stats NZ said, with the country put into a strict lockdown for almost two months and the country's borders closed.

Ardern rejected opposition accusations that the tough measures had pushed the economy "off a cliff", saying the restrictions helped contain the virus, which allowed business to resume far earlier than in many other countries.

The center-left leader, who will go to the polls re-election on October 17, also pointed out that New Zealand had recorded just 25 COVID-19 deaths, out of a population of five million.

"Success for me is saving people's lives, supporting and saving people's businesses, coming out the other side (of the crisis) faster, quicker and with more activity," she told reporters.

"I back our results."

She said the economic pain of lockdown in the June quarter would be followed by a rebound in July-September, when virus-related restrictions were eased significantly.

Ardern retains a strong lead in opinion polls and is expected to retain office, despite the ugly pre-election economic figures.

Finance Minister Grant Robertson said it could have been much worse, with budget papers in May predicting a 23.5 quarterly decline and Treasury forecasting a 16 percent drop just this week.

"There is no way that any political party could claim that there would not have been a recession in New Zealand during this period," he said.

"This is a one-in-100-year global economic shock."

The opposition National Party said the figures showed a change of government was needed because Ardern's administration could not properly manage the economy or the pandemic response.

"It is now official that we are in the deepest recession in living memory and it's proof that New Zealand needs a National-led government now that has a very clear plan," National leader Judith Collins said.

She said New Zealand "compares very unfavorably" with neighboring Australia, which recorded an economic contraction of seven percent in the June quarter after adopting a more flexible approach to lockdowns and border controls.

New Zealand's most recent recession was in 2008-09 and until the first three months of this year it had recorded non-stop quarterly growth since 2010.

The second-quarter decline follows a 1.6-percent contraction in the first three months of 2020, confirming widespread expectations that New Zealand is in recession.

Kiwibank chief economist Jarrod Kerr said the figures were unprecedented.

"We've never seen anything like this. It was traumatic," he said.

"Service exports were stonewalled, and down 40 percent in the quarter, consumption was down 12 percent, and investment was slashed by 20 percent."

But he said the figure was a one-off that was set to be followed by a growth surge of 10 percent in the September quarter, which would also be a record.

"Businesses and households have clearly adapted to trading in a world with limited face-to-face contract," he said.


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Re: Aotearoa—No New Cases Day 3?—Queen Jacinda Causes Recession

Posted by Joe V on Thu Sep 17 07:42:46 2020, in response to Re: Aotearoa—No New Cases Day 3?—Queen Jacinda Causes Recession, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 17 02:38:30 2020.

The US is ALREADY in the worst economic contraction since the Great Depression AND we have 30,0000 new cases per day AND about to hit 200,000 deaths.

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Re: New Zealand - No New Cases Day 3

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Sep 17 08:14:19 2020, in response to New Zealand - No New Cases Day 3, posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Sep 16 21:44:07 2020.

OK, if New Zealand is so close to Australia, how come Australia was the only country left to get the radiation in On the Beach??

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Re: New Zealand - No New Cases Day 3

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Sep 17 08:15:39 2020, in response to Re: New Zealand - No New Cases Day 3, posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Sep 16 22:03:12 2020.

The IRT doesn't exist. It's the A division.

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Re: New Zealand - No New Cases Day 3

Posted by AlM on Thu Sep 17 08:42:25 2020, in response to Re: New Zealand - No New Cases Day 3, posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Sep 17 08:14:19 2020.

New Zealand isn't that close to Australia, by the way.



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Re: Aotearoa—No New Cases Day 3?—Queen Jacinda Causes Recession

Posted by Stephen Bauman on Thu Sep 17 09:13:09 2020, in response to Re: Aotearoa—No New Cases Day 3?—Queen Jacinda Causes Recession, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 17 02:38:30 2020.

The 12.2 percent contraction in April-June was "by far the largest" since records began, national data agency Stats NZ said, with the country put into a strict lockdown for almost two months and the country's borders closed...She said New Zealand "compares very unfavorably" with neighboring Australia, which recorded an economic contraction of seven percent in the June quarter after adopting a more flexible approach to lockdowns and border controls.

So, they are comparing New Zealand's 12% vs. Austrailia's 7% GDP declines.

Let's examine this a bit further. There would have been a GDP decline in Austrailia and New Zealand even had they not suffered a single Covid case nor had any lockdown. This is because the rest of the world is suffering from Covid, the rest of the world is in lockdown, and their GDP's and spending has tanked. That spending is for domestic goods and services, as well as imports. Their reduced spending on imports would affect the exports of Austrailia and New Zealand.

What's the GDP percentage of exports for Austrailia and New Zealand? It's 24% for Austrailia and 28% for New Zealand. One should expect a greater percentage GDP decline for New Zealand, even if neither country had a single Covid case. This difference must be factored into any comparison between Austrailia and New Zealand for determining the effect of lockdown policies on their domestic economies.

Let's assume the percentage declines were the same percentage between domestic and export goods. Then Austrailia's domestic decline due to its lockdown policies was 7*(1-0.24) or 5.3%. New Zealand's was 12.2*(1-0.28) or 8.7%. By comparison, the US GDP includes only 11.7% exports and suffered a 9.5% GDP quarterly decline. This translates to an 8.4% decline due to domestic policies.

That's the same as New Zealand's figure.

There has been very little difference between New Zealand, Austrailia, and the US in the GDP decline due to domestic lockdown policies.

There has been a big difference in controlling Covid. New Zealand eradicated Covid for 100 days. It then demonstrated it could contain Covid within the community within 30 days. The US is waiting for a vaccine to achieve New Zealand's results.


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Re: New Zealand - No New Cases Day 3

Posted by Stephen Bauman on Thu Sep 17 09:17:57 2020, in response to Re: New Zealand - No New Cases Day 3, posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Sep 16 22:03:12 2020.

How many of their IRT trains were late or canceled?

I have been collecting the AWOL and late start statistics. They have been declining. This doesn't bode well for those who claim NYCT's poor performance is due to its passengers and not itself. NYCT isn't able to operate its scheduled trains, even when passenger counts are down 75%.

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