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Hydroxychloroquine

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 7 06:28:44 2020

Suddenly CNN says Hydroxy-Chloroquine cuts deaths in half. New studies are showing positive results. And yet our medical experts;
Bauman
AlM
JoeV
Jayzero
Bingbong
Are suddenly silent.This could be very good news - bad news for them.


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Re: Hydroxychloroquine

Posted by Joe V on Tue Jul 7 06:44:48 2020, in response to Hydroxychloroquine, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 7 06:28:44 2020.

That is a minor study with a small sampling of 2450 when many other larger ones range say its effects range from ineffective to bad. NIH has halted any further clinical trials.

Your obsession Hydroxychloroquine is due to your idiotic man-worshipping of a stupid, illiterate, incoherent Trump who has fucked up his response as badly as Brazil has, running to be President of the Confederacy, and is 8 - 12 point behind Biden.

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Re: Hydroxychloroquine

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Jul 7 07:39:31 2020, in response to Re: Hydroxychloroquine, posted by Joe V on Tue Jul 7 06:44:48 2020.

"That is a minor study with a small sampling of 2450"

Yet studies with a sample size of 39 people are ground-breaking.
I wish I could decipher the rest of the post, but BLM destroyed the offices my translators used to work in.

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Re: Haloperidol

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jul 7 07:56:11 2020, in response to Hydroxychloroquine, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 7 06:28:44 2020.

You need a good dose. Your obsession with your Dear Leader Trump is becoming genuinely disturbing.

As for Hydroxychloroquine, the New England Journal of Medicine published the findings of a study on this medication. Their conclusions:

"this observational study involving patients with Covid-19 who had been admitted to the hospital, hydroxychloroquine administration was not associated with either a greatly lowered or an increased risk of the composite end point of intubation or death. Randomized, controlled trials of hydroxychloroquine in patients with Covid-19 are needed. (Funded by the National Institutes of Health.)

The study you are citing didn't meet the above criteria.

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Re: Haloperidol

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Jul 7 09:06:23 2020, in response to Re: Haloperidol, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jul 7 07:56:11 2020.

There are countless studies and medications, including those not even given in this country. I doubt you can give me the veracity and helpfulness of even 2 dozen of them.

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Re: Haloperidol

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jul 7 09:11:41 2020, in response to Re: Haloperidol, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Jul 7 09:06:23 2020.

I doubt you can post a credible link to even one properly attributed, peer-reviewed study.

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Re: Hydroxychloroquine

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 7 10:11:04 2020, in response to Re: Hydroxychloroquine, posted by Joe V on Tue Jul 7 06:44:48 2020.

Do you also blame Trump for your inability to have a normal sexual relationship with a woman? Maybe that's why you worship Biden, because of the way he'll cop a feel of a teenage girl or an old woman. Who knows, maybe you think its exciting to sniff a woman's hair. I'm betting that your thing is hanging out at Riis Park, hoping that some we equipped stud will step over you while you lay in the sand and uou can catch a whiff of his ball sweat.. oh how you'd love to hold that ball sack in your hands, just once. Dream on, incel.

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Re: Haloperidol

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 7 10:22:53 2020, in response to Re: Haloperidol, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jul 7 07:56:11 2020.

so they let you drive the ambulance at $15/hr and now you can play doctor? Tell me, when you checked those criminals out while under arrest, did you check for hernias several times each? Maybe that's where you found your love for criminals. Did and of them ever get hard while you foned them?

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Re: Hydroxychloroquine

Posted by Joe V on Tue Jul 7 10:34:03 2020, in response to Re: Hydroxychloroquine, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 7 10:11:04 2020.

Since you have wandered are off topic, you have lost the argument- again, and proven just as socially and intellectually retarded, that explains your man-worshipping of Trump

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Re: Hydroxychloroquine

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 7 10:35:06 2020, in response to Re: Haloperidol, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jul 7 07:56:11 2020.

He's attributing it to CNN because he thinks that it being on CNN means that "liberals" should heed it, because like all good conservatives, he thinks that knowledge is revealed.

That having been said, the actual source of the hydroxychloroquine study is the Henry Ford Health System. Seems reliable to me. As for how this compares to prior studies that show that the drug is not useful, I'll wait until this new study is debunked, or found to be bunk-less.

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Re: Haloperidol

Posted by Joe V on Tue Jul 7 10:35:10 2020, in response to Re: Haloperidol, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 7 10:22:53 2020.

You think Trump ever got past high school Biology ?
I don't think they covered injecting bleach and UV rays.

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Re: Hydroxychloroquine

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 7 10:37:28 2020, in response to Re: Hydroxychloroquine, posted by Joe V on Tue Jul 7 10:34:03 2020.

I wondered off topic you incel fool? I mentioned a drug study and you went off on a rant about The President. You do remember that, incel joey, don't you? What did Donald Trump have to do with the CNN article of July 2?

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Re: Hydroxychloroquine

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jul 7 10:37:43 2020, in response to Re: Hydroxychloroquine, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 7 10:11:04 2020.

The fact that you know Riis Park is a gay beach is very telling. I'm sure you've enjoyed an evening of teabagging on its sands many times.

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Re: Haloperidol

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 7 10:38:57 2020, in response to Re: Haloperidol, posted by Joe V on Tue Jul 7 10:35:10 2020.

I don't know. Did you?

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Re: Hydroxychloroquine

Posted by Joe V on Tue Jul 7 10:39:10 2020, in response to Re: Hydroxychloroquine, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 7 10:35:06 2020.

He also confuses the message with the messenger, a sign of illiteracy.
Ford Health NOT = CNN.

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Re: Hydroxychloroquine

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 7 10:40:43 2020, in response to Re: Hydroxychloroquine, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jul 7 10:37:43 2020.

Why? Is it only a "gay" beach?

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Re: Hydroxychloroquine

Posted by Joe V on Tue Jul 7 10:41:11 2020, in response to Re: Hydroxychloroquine, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 7 10:37:28 2020.

You brought up the study because of your obsession with that drug, due to Trump's obsession with it, and your man-worshipping of Trump.

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Re: Hydroxychloroquine

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jul 7 10:41:20 2020, in response to Re: Hydroxychloroquine, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 7 10:40:43 2020.

You tell me.

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Re: Hydroxychloroquine

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 7 10:41:46 2020, in response to Re: Hydroxychloroquine, posted by Joe V on Tue Jul 7 10:39:10 2020.

LOL CNN is not Trump, incel!

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Re: Hydroxychloroquine

Posted by Joe V on Tue Jul 7 10:43:36 2020, in response to Re: Hydroxychloroquine, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jul 7 10:37:43 2020.

That is just the East End of it. I go to the central and west end of it, nearer to the bathrooms.

Train Dude also knows all about Cherry Grove, also very telling.

If I go to FI, I go to Sailors Haven, as I'm intrigued with Sunken Forest.

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Re: Hydroxychloroquine

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 7 10:44:20 2020, in response to Re: Hydroxychloroquine, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 7 10:40:43 2020.

As of last week, it likely wasn't as my friend Joe took his wife and grown son there and posted about the fish they caught.

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Re: Hydroxychloroquine

Posted by AlM on Tue Jul 7 10:46:58 2020, in response to Re: Hydroxychloroquine, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 7 10:35:06 2020.

As for how this compares to prior studies that show that the drug is not useful, I'll wait until this new study is debunked, or found to be bunk-less.

Agreed. Sometimes reputable studies just disagree.

There's also the margin of error issue. If you do enough reputable studies, eventually one of them will give bad results.

None of this changes the fact that his majesty should not have been pushing one single treatment, when there have been many showing promise.



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Re: Hydroxychloroquine

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 7 10:47:42 2020, in response to Re: Hydroxychloroquine, posted by Joe V on Tue Jul 7 10:43:36 2020.

Joey, Joey, Joey, you don't need to prove anything to us. You live in NJ and know about Cherry Grove. I live 10 minutes from Fire Island and I know about Cherry Grove. Why do you feel threatened because I mentioned it, joey?

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Re: Hydroxychloroquine

Posted by Joe V on Tue Jul 7 10:48:29 2020, in response to Re: Hydroxychloroquine, posted by AlM on Tue Jul 7 10:46:58 2020.

He also caused shortages of it from the malaria people who really need it.

Trump is an endangerment to public health.

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Re: Hydroxychloroquine

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jul 7 10:49:02 2020, in response to Re: Hydroxychloroquine, posted by Joe V on Tue Jul 7 10:43:36 2020.

I go to Cherry Grove. I've also stayed at the Belvedere. I think TD protests too much with his constant homophobic slurs...

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Re: Hydroxychloroquine

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jul 7 10:52:25 2020, in response to Re: Hydroxychloroquine, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 7 10:47:42 2020.

The only way you can possibly live "10 minutes from Fire Island" is if you live on Fire Island . It takes more than twice that long to reach FI from the "mainland" .

Why are you such a dishonest little troll?

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Re: Hydroxychloroquine

Posted by Joe V on Tue Jul 7 10:55:23 2020, in response to Re: Hydroxychloroquine, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jul 7 10:52:25 2020.

It's about 26 miles long with about as many isolated communities.
Boat rides tend to be 20 - 30 minutes. Then there's the water taxi.

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Re: Hydroxychloroquine

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 7 11:16:41 2020, in response to Re: Hydroxychloroquine, posted by Joe V on Tue Jul 7 10:48:29 2020.

Joey, joey, joey, there never was a shortage. There was the belief that it could cause a shortage. You need to get your facts right for your anti-Trump rants.

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Re: Hydroxychloroquine

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 7 11:17:48 2020, in response to Re: Hydroxychloroquine, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jul 7 10:49:02 2020.

I don't care where you go but have to wonder why you are making homophobic posts.

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Re: Hydroxychloroquine

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 7 11:18:59 2020, in response to Re: Hydroxychloroquine, posted by Joe V on Tue Jul 7 10:55:23 2020.

Really. Under 10 minutes on the causeway .

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Re: Hydroxychloroquine

Posted by Joe V on Tue Jul 7 11:49:14 2020, in response to Re: Hydroxychloroquine, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 7 11:16:41 2020.

When people request a 90 supply, and get 30 days due to rationing, that is a shortage.

I guess FOX didn't tell you that.

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Re: Hydroxychloroquine

Posted by Joe V on Tue Jul 7 11:50:00 2020, in response to Re: Hydroxychloroquine, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 7 11:18:59 2020.

That's Robert Moses. What about the rest of it, which has no auto access ?

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Re: Hydroxychloroquine

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 7 12:01:30 2020, in response to Re: Hydroxychloroquine, posted by Joe V on Tue Jul 7 11:50:00 2020.

Its Fire Island, asswipe

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Re: Hydroxychloroquine

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 7 12:02:12 2020, in response to Hydroxychloroquine, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 7 06:28:44 2020.

Unless of course they get sick.

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Re: Hydroxychloroquine

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 7 12:04:28 2020, in response to Hydroxychloroquine, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 7 06:28:44 2020.

I'd be willing to bet one of them would rather let his "at-risk" wife die rather than let her take hydroxy-Chloroquine.

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Re: Hydroxychloroquine

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 7 12:18:28 2020, in response to Re: Hydroxychloroquine, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jul 7 10:52:25 2020.

you are right. Its actually 18 miles to the parking lot. Go have yourself some fudge.

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Re: Haloperidol

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jul 7 13:21:40 2020, in response to Re: Haloperidol, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jul 7 07:56:11 2020.

I think the obsession is with YOU and this drug and the rest of the lefists who have some sort of mental blcck because Trump once said it was "hopeful". Its almost sick the obsession with hoping it doesn't work.

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Re: Hydroxychloroquine

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jul 7 13:22:25 2020, in response to Re: Hydroxychloroquine, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 7 12:04:28 2020.

...just because Trump once said it was "hopeful".

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Re: Hydroxychloroquine

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jul 7 13:23:51 2020, in response to Re: Hydroxychloroquine, posted by Joe V on Tue Jul 7 10:43:36 2020.

Everyone knows about Cherry Grove. Heck, I have even been there....my wife ans I attended a beach wedding there some years ago for a good friend of ours (who is gay)

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Re: Hydroxychloroquine

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jul 7 13:24:45 2020, in response to Re: Hydroxychloroquine, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 7 10:47:42 2020.

LOL, exactly. I like 10 minutes from the ferry near Sayville. The Pines is gay too.

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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jul 7 13:24:53 2020, in response to Re: Hydroxychloroquine, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 7 10:47:42 2020.

LOL, exactly. I live 10 minutes from the ferry near Sayville. The Pines is gay too.

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Re: Hydroxychloroquine

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jul 7 13:25:14 2020, in response to Re: Hydroxychloroquine, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jul 7 10:52:25 2020.

10 minutes from the ferry at Sayville.

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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jul 7 13:26:02 2020, in response to Re: Hydroxychloroquine, posted by Joe V on Tue Jul 7 11:50:00 2020.

Its all Fire Island.

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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jul 7 13:27:09 2020, in response to Re: Hydroxychloroquine, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jul 7 13:26:02 2020.

And it's not just Robert Moses. Oak Beach, Gilgo Beach and many others are all able to get there by car, the same Causeway.

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Re: Hydroxychloroquine

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jul 7 13:28:30 2020, in response to Re: Hydroxychloroquine, posted by Joe V on Tue Jul 7 10:48:29 2020.

LOL!!!

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Re: Hydroxychloroquine

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jul 7 13:29:05 2020, in response to Re: Hydroxychloroquine, posted by Joe V on Tue Jul 7 11:49:14 2020.

And were they denied their next dosage? Or are you still living in April?

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Re: Haloperidol

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jul 7 13:32:20 2020, in response to Re: Haloperidol, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jul 7 13:21:40 2020.

Is the FDA also "obsessed" as well?

Does the FDA also have a collective "mental block" on the use of Hydroxychloroquine?

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Re: Haloperidol

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jul 7 13:36:07 2020, in response to Re: Haloperidol, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jul 7 13:32:20 2020.

Outside of Hospital setting, or under care of doctor? What's your issue now? I wouldn't take any medicine that wasn't under the care of a doctor.

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Re: Hydroxychloroquine

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 7 13:36:07 2020, in response to Re: Hydroxychloroquine, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jul 7 13:27:09 2020.

None of those (Oak, Gilgo) are part of Fire Island.

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Re: Hydroxychloroquine

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jul 7 13:38:15 2020, in response to Re: Hydroxychloroquine, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 7 13:36:07 2020.

Okay, Fire Island is just the center of the barrier beaches. Smith Point then. Bridge to it.....

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