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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jul 6 08:37:02 2020, in response to "Our National Security Process Is Broken", posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jul 6 07:56:46 2020. MSNBCYou are such a little cunt |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jul 6 08:45:18 2020, in response to Re: ''Our National Security Process Is Broken'', posted by Train Dude on Mon Jul 6 08:37:02 2020. LOL @ dismissing the four-star general because you're a good little cultist. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jul 6 08:52:24 2020, in response to Re: ''Our National Security Process Is Broken'', posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jul 6 08:45:18 2020. Pitiful MSNBC and your TDS |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jul 6 08:55:11 2020, in response to Re: ''Our National Security Process Is Broken'', posted by Train Dude on Mon Jul 6 08:52:24 2020. It's disgusting that you keep defending Trump the Traitor and Putin the Puppeteer. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jul 6 09:00:00 2020, in response to Re: ''Our National Security Process Is Broken'', posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jul 6 08:55:11 2020. LOL, I guess after Bathhouse Barry, a real man in the WHITEHOUSE can be disappointing to your kind |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 6 10:35:50 2020, in response to Re: ''Our National Security Process Is Broken'', posted by Train Dude on Mon Jul 6 09:00:00 2020. That you consider that whiny little bitch to be a “real man” is unbelievably pathetic.Cult45. |
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Posted by Jimmymc25 on Mon Jul 6 10:38:41 2020, in response to Re: ''Our National Security Process Is Broken'', posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 6 10:35:50 2020. 1000%!!!!! |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 6 10:58:17 2020, in response to Re: ''Our National Security Process Is Broken'', posted by Train Dude on Mon Jul 6 08:37:02 2020. The source isn't MSNBC.But every general or former general who opposes your beloved leader is to be ignored. This is exactly how a cult works. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Jul 6 11:05:55 2020, in response to Re: ''Our National Security Process Is Broken'', posted by Train Dude on Mon Jul 6 08:37:02 2020. Is that the same as a moron? He needs to put his initials in the subject line so I can ignore this guy who has no problem with cop killings. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jul 6 12:16:03 2020, in response to Re: ''Our National Security Process Is Broken'', posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 6 10:35:50 2020. Like you have any concept of what a real man looks or acts like. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 6 12:19:17 2020, in response to Re: ''Our National Security Process Is Broken'', posted by Train Dude on Mon Jul 6 12:16:03 2020. A real man doesn't keep whining like a little bitch about how everyone is against him.A real man doesn't paint his face like a clown. A real man projects strength and doesn't just pretend to be strong. A real man stands up to bullies instead of sycophantically bowing to them. |
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Re: “Our National Security Process Is Broken”—and Barry McCaffrey helped do it |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 6 12:28:07 2020, in response to "Our National Security Process Is Broken", posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jul 6 07:56:46 2020. Think anyone except a far lefty is going to take a Clinton-cabinet general who now works for NBC seriously? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 6 12:44:05 2020, in response to Re: “Our National Security Process Is Broken”—and Barry McCaffrey helped do it, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 6 12:28:07 2020. Why does it matter that he was a Clinton cabinet general? Even cabinet members who served under your beloved Trump are criticizing him. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Jul 6 12:46:18 2020, in response to Re: “Our National Security Process Is Broken”—and Barry McCaffrey helped do it, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 6 12:44:05 2020. Oooohhhh, deep state are out fighting for their failed jobs because their too incompetant to ever do anything right.Ya know, they still blame Nixon for the publics distrust in government. I notice that this distrust magically goes away when it boils back down to political teams. Kinda like the economy is in shambles, except when we can write letters to Israel about the Jews, then stimulus checks get delayed. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Jul 6 12:47:06 2020, in response to Re: ''Our National Security Process Is Broken'', posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 6 10:58:17 2020. That's not a cult, that's politics. Generals Obama didn't like were demonized, too. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 6 12:47:07 2020, in response to Re: “Our National Security Process Is Broken”—and Barry McCaffrey helped do it, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Jul 6 12:46:18 2020. deep state are out fighting for their failed jobsThat's what it boils down to. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 6 12:50:42 2020, in response to Re: ''Our National Security Process Is Broken'', posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Jul 6 12:47:06 2020. What's up with "too"?Generals that go after Trump demonize themselves. They don't need Trump to call them names. (And then by doing that, these generals are usually found out for what they are by ordinary people looking up their careers.) |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jul 6 12:57:37 2020, in response to Re: ''Our National Security Process Is Broken'', posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 6 12:19:17 2020. A real man doesn't betray his own troops, either. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 6 12:58:26 2020, in response to Re: “Our National Security Process Is Broken”—and Barry McCaffrey helped do it, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Jul 6 12:46:18 2020. LOL! |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 6 12:58:58 2020, in response to Re: “Our National Security Process Is Broken”—and Barry McCaffrey helped do it, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 6 12:47:07 2020. You just prefer loyalty and nepotism. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 6 12:59:58 2020, in response to Re: ''Our National Security Process Is Broken'', posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Jul 6 12:47:06 2020. Look at their responses, though. They bring up their beloved bogeyman "the deep state." Think about what that implies. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jul 6 13:00:19 2020, in response to Re: “Our National Security Process Is Broken”—and Barry McCaffrey helped do it, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 6 12:28:07 2020. McCaffrey, as he points out in the first 39 seconds of the interview, served both Democratic and Republican administrations.Funny how you leave that part out. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 6 13:00:23 2020, in response to Re: “Our National Security Process Is Broken”, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 6 12:50:42 2020. TRUMP UBER ALLES! |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 6 13:09:46 2020, in response to Re: ''Our National Security Process Is Broken'', posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jul 6 12:57:37 2020. TRUE! |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 6 13:11:33 2020, in response to Re: “Our National Security Process Is Broken”—and Barry McCaffrey helped do it, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jul 6 13:00:19 2020. That actually makes him part of the "deep state", by definition, since he had a career independent of any political appointment, and Trumpism prefers cronies to career experts. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jul 6 13:11:38 2020, in response to Re: ''Our National Security Process Is Broken'', posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jul 6 12:57:37 2020. You mean like bathouse barry did? |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jul 6 13:12:22 2020, in response to Re: ''Our National Security Process Is Broken'', posted by Train Dude on Mon Jul 6 13:11:38 2020. No, like your cult leader, Trump, did. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jul 6 13:18:37 2020, in response to Re: ''Our National Security Process Is Broken'', posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jul 6 13:12:22 2020. Three times as many Americans died in Afghanistan in the first 4 years of Bathhouse Barry's administration that were lost in 8 years under QW Bush. How many have died under this president, you sniveling little pussy? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 6 13:21:20 2020, in response to Re: ''Our National Security Process Is Broken'', posted by Train Dude on Mon Jul 6 13:18:37 2020. Oh noes, not facts. Expect personal attacks to be the "logical" response. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jul 6 13:24:56 2020, in response to Re: ''Our National Security Process Is Broken'', posted by Train Dude on Mon Jul 6 13:18:37 2020. No American troops in Afghanistan under the Obama administration died because the Russians put bounties on their heads.Oh, and there are fewer troops in Afghanistan now, because Obama withdrew most US forces from the region before his second term ended, as per a plan devised in 2014. Nice try. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Jul 6 13:32:13 2020, in response to Re: “Our National Security Process Is Broken”—and Barry McCaffrey helped do it, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 6 12:58:58 2020.  Credibility helps. Demonkkkrats don't get to accuse others. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jul 6 14:00:46 2020, in response to Re: ''Our National Security Process Is Broken'', posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jul 6 13:24:56 2020. The issue of bounties has been shown to not be credible unless you have proof that you want to share with the national intelligence agencies, Doo you have such proof? I didn't think so.As for Bathhouse Barry, 1n 2009 he sent 30,000 troops to Afghanistan and then announced that they would be withdrawn 18 months later, which never happened. In all, he sent almost 40,00 troops to Afghanistan but changed the rules of engagement, causing increased American casualties. Stop lying, queen Vulvarina. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jul 6 14:06:03 2020, in response to Re: ''Our National Security Process Is Broken'', posted by Train Dude on Mon Jul 6 14:00:46 2020. The credibility of the Russian bounties was verified in the OP video. The money trail wasn't hard to find, nor was its source, Putin's GRU. I put my proof right in the OP, out of the mouths of two long-term national security professionals.I'm not "lying" about troop levels in Afghanistan under Obama, or the timeline in which they were withdrawn. In any case, no troops under Obama were wounded or killed because the Russians issued hunting licenses while the White House did nothing. That's all on your boy, Trump. All. Of. It. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jul 6 14:14:36 2020, in response to Re: ''Our National Security Process Is Broken'', posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jul 6 14:06:03 2020. You have that backwards, you little piece of shit. Scumbama was your boy and a fine lawn jockey he would make. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jul 6 14:23:15 2020, in response to Re: ''Our National Security Process Is Broken'', posted by Train Dude on Mon Jul 6 14:14:36 2020. Scumbama was your boy and a fine lawn jockey he would make.You are such a racist piece of shit. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jul 6 14:23:55 2020, in response to Re: ''Our National Security Process Is Broken'', posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jul 6 14:23:15 2020. LOL coming from you, that's high praise indeed. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Jul 6 20:17:13 2020, in response to Re: ''Our National Security Process Is Broken'', posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 6 12:59:58 2020. The "deep state" was a conspiracy theory until the NYT basically confirmed its existence by enthusiastically supporting it: The ‘Deep State’ Exists to Battle People Like Trump.At that point, criticism of unelected officials controlling national policy moved into the mainstream. The principle argument in favor of Lieutenant Douche Vindman during impeachment was that Trump was "undermining American foreign policy"... except, POTUS is the elected official who is supposed to set the American foreign policy. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jul 6 20:24:04 2020, in response to Re: ''Our National Security Process Is Broken'', posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Jul 6 20:17:13 2020. That's an op-ed, not a statement of fact.There is no sinister, mysterious "Deep State" out to get Trump. Even if such a shadowy cabal of "unelected officials" did, in fact, exist, they would be best served by doing nothing to interfere with Trump's own process of destroying himself, in keeping with Sun Tzu's sage advice. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 6 20:38:52 2020, in response to Re: ''Our National Security Process Is Broken'', posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Jul 6 20:17:13 2020. I’m not going to read the article. From the headline it’s clear that they have the same definition as I do: career civil servants as opposed to political cronies. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Jul 6 22:00:30 2020, in response to Re: ''Our National Security Process Is Broken'', posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jul 6 20:24:04 2020. The fact that the Trump White House leaks like a sieve proves it does exist and is against Trump.Obama was able to root that shit out and prosecuted journalists. Washington Post: Trump rages about leakers. Obama quietly prosecuted them.. But for some reason Trump has had his hands tied regarding this. Hmm. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Mon Jul 6 22:11:07 2020, in response to Re: ''Our National Security Process Is Broken'', posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Jul 6 20:17:13 2020. Wow.A there was once a time that I did have a bit of respect. Guess that's a wash, too. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Mon Jul 6 22:29:30 2020, in response to Re: ''Our National Security Process Is Broken'', posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Jul 6 22:00:30 2020. Really?Got a Really cheap Bridge for sale A bit OLDER, but it'll stand up, and will bring you hours of enjoyment. Holla back if it fits your fancy. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 7 00:08:03 2020, in response to Re: ''Our National Security Process Is Broken'', posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Jul 6 22:00:30 2020. Trump is against this republic, so it’s not surprising so many people loyal to it are against Trump. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 7 06:29:47 2020, in response to Re: ''Our National Security Process Is Broken'', posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 7 00:08:03 2020. Total bullshit |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue Jul 7 08:19:40 2020, in response to Re: ''Our National Security Process Is Broken'', posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Jul 6 20:17:13 2020. Douche Vindman, eh ? Spoken from a Trump Cultist.Retired Marine Corps General former White House Chief of Staff Kelly said: "said that Vindman is blameless and was simply following the training he’d received as a soldier". "Vindman was rightly disturbed by Trump’s phone call to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky in July, Kelly suggested: Having seen something “questionable,” Vindman properly notified his superiors, Kelly said. Vindman, who specialized in Ukraine policy at the National Security Council at the time, was among multiple U.S. officials who listened in on the call. When subpoenaed by Congress in the House impeachment hearings, Vindman complied and told the truth, Kelly said." I'll believe General Kelly over right-winged crackpots on Subchat. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jul 7 08:22:57 2020, in response to Re: ''Our National Security Process Is Broken'', posted by Joe V on Tue Jul 7 08:19:40 2020. IAWTP |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 7 11:01:43 2020, in response to Re: ''Our National Security Process Is Broken'', posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 7 06:29:47 2020. Coming from you that’s meaningless. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 7 11:04:45 2020, in response to Re: ''Our National Security Process Is Broken'', posted by Joe V on Tue Jul 7 08:19:40 2020. Vindman's loyalty was to the Constitution and to the republic and not to Trump. It's not that Trump can't set the foreign policy it's that he can't set the foreign policy to primarily serve his personal interests as if he were Louis XIV. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Jul 7 11:10:13 2020, in response to Re: ''Our National Security Process Is Broken'', posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Jul 6 22:00:30 2020. But for some reason Trump has had his hands tied regarding this.Because the current crop of leakers are leaking information about moronic and dangerous acts by Trump. They are not leaking information that it would be critical to our security to reveal. The biggest single leaker of classified information in today's Washington is Trump himself. |
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