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Re: If Gillum won......

Posted by AlM on Mon Jul 6 19:28:43 2020, in response to Re: If Gillum won......, posted by Joe V on Mon Jul 6 19:21:08 2020.

But why did they say masks? Because scientists finally convinced them that masks work. And they're far less destructive to the economy than closing all the businesses again.



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Re: If Gillum won......

Posted by AlM on Mon Jul 6 19:29:22 2020, in response to Re: If Gillum won......, posted by Easy on Mon Jul 6 19:23:11 2020.

Tons of people have gotten sick without ever touching an infected person.


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Re: If Gillum won......

Posted by Joe V on Mon Jul 6 19:29:45 2020, in response to Re: If Gillum won......, posted by AlM on Mon Jul 6 19:26:42 2020.

It'll "live" in the freezer for 6 months.

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Re: If Gillum won......

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jul 6 19:30:00 2020, in response to Re: If Gillum won......, posted by Joe V on Mon Jul 6 19:25:07 2020.

Bookmarked.

We'll see who was right.

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Re: If Gillum won......

Posted by Joe V on Mon Jul 6 19:30:55 2020, in response to Re: If Gillum won......, posted by AlM on Mon Jul 6 19:28:43 2020.

Tell that to Florida Governor DeStupidis.

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Re: If Gillum won......

Posted by Joe V on Mon Jul 6 19:32:01 2020, in response to Re: If Gillum won......, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jul 6 19:30:00 2020.

Actually all the condo pools are shut this summer.

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Re: If Gillum won......

Posted by Easy on Mon Jul 6 19:33:15 2020, in response to Re: If Gillum won......, posted by Joe V on Mon Jul 6 19:27:10 2020.

There are lots of factors to consider, but suffice it to say that is an inaccurate oversimplification.

I look at it like this. You go to an outdoor BBQ with family and everyone is hugging and shaking hands and maybe some kisses on the cheek. If someone in that group has covid, large numbers of people that attend will be infected. There are numerous examples of this. You have the same number of people in the same place that aren't family, aren't touching and hugging and the same one positive person, and they likely all go home healthy. There are numerous examples of this as well.

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Re: If Gillum won......

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jul 6 19:33:16 2020, in response to Re: If Gillum won......, posted by AlM on Mon Jul 6 19:27:23 2020.

No. I am right.

To be the man you are.

Say the things you say.

Vote the way you vote.

Read the newspaper you read.

You want to keep testosterone lower. If you increase T you will be a different man.



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Re: If Gillum won......

Posted by AlM on Mon Jul 6 19:34:26 2020, in response to Re: If Gillum won......, posted by Joe V on Mon Jul 6 19:30:55 2020.

???

He's pushing masks now too.



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Re: If Gillum won......

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jul 6 19:35:17 2020, in response to Re: If Gillum won......, posted by Easy on Mon Jul 6 19:26:32 2020.

Didn't they close gyms again?

How do you feel about NY and NJ being so totalitarian?

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Re: If Gillum won......

Posted by Easy on Mon Jul 6 19:37:22 2020, in response to Re: If Gillum won......, posted by AlM on Mon Jul 6 19:29:22 2020.

Put a percentage on it. I'd guess less than 10%.

I never said that it wasn't an avenue, just not anywhere close to the most important.

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Re: If Gillum won......

Posted by AlM on Mon Jul 6 19:38:12 2020, in response to Re: If Gillum won......, posted by Easy on Mon Jul 6 19:33:15 2020.

You have the same number of people in the same place that aren't family, aren't touching and hugging and the same one positive person, and they likely all go home healthy.

More likely, for sure. But far from a sure thing. Plenty of bargoers who aren't hugging who are getting sick. And 100-person house parties.





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Re: If Gillum won......

Posted by AlM on Mon Jul 6 19:39:16 2020, in response to Re: If Gillum won......, posted by Easy on Mon Jul 6 19:37:22 2020.

I'd guess at least 50%, maybe more, is pure breathing. I guess that because that's what the scientists are saying now.



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Re: If Gillum won......

Posted by Joe V on Mon Jul 6 19:44:55 2020, in response to Re: If Gillum won......, posted by Easy on Mon Jul 6 19:33:15 2020.

Church choirs at practice do not hug and kiss. One group of them had one person in back Covid-positive, who infected 87 of 100 others, and 2 of them died.

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Re: If Gillum won......

Posted by Joe V on Mon Jul 6 19:46:17 2020, in response to Re: If Gillum won......, posted by AlM on Mon Jul 6 19:34:26 2020.

But STILL not requiring as NY & NJ started doing in mid-April. They are now worse off than we ever were.

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Re: If Gillum won......

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jul 6 19:46:32 2020, in response to Re: If Gillum won......, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jun 25 17:41:37 2020.

The Gillum scandal was a straight-up honey trap. Somebody who knew he was closeted, set him up and was there to take the pictures that destroyed his political career. It was an ambush, possibly engineered by the GOP. They've done worse in the past.

Notice we haven't heard a peep from that little Rentboy since then...

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Re: If Gillum won......

Posted by Joe V on Mon Jul 6 19:48:06 2020, in response to Re: If Gillum won......, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jul 6 19:35:17 2020.

It is not totalitarian. We have decided not to do anything stupid.
A hospital stay - now there's totalitarian.

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Re: If Gillum won......

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 6 20:00:28 2020, in response to Re: If Gillum won......, posted by Easy on Mon Jul 6 18:39:56 2020.

Doesn’t mean people wipe down the machines after using them, or don’t pee in the shower.

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Re: If Gillum won......

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jul 6 20:04:57 2020, in response to Re: If Gillum won......, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 6 20:00:28 2020.

Gyms give out towels or require them now.

Most have spray bottles.

Wipe down bars and machine seats has been proper etiquette for long. Most gym people wear gloves.

NYNJ is totalitarian and taking an anti Trump stand.

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Re: If Gillum won......

Posted by Joe V on Mon Jul 6 20:33:58 2020, in response to Re: If Gillum won......, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jul 6 20:04:57 2020.

We had an anti-Trump stand long before the pandemic.

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Re: If Gillum won......

Posted by jimmymc25 on Mon Jul 6 20:51:55 2020, in response to Re: If Gillum won......, posted by Joe V on Mon Jul 6 19:29:45 2020.

Really?

I didn't know that....I thought it would die within 72hrs.

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Re: If Gillum won......

Posted by Joe V on Mon Jul 6 21:03:33 2020, in response to Re: If Gillum won......, posted by jimmymc25 on Mon Jul 6 20:51:55 2020.

Nope.

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Re: If Gillum won......

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Jul 7 09:04:20 2020, in response to Re: If Gillum won......, posted by Easy on Mon Jul 6 19:08:05 2020.

That is worse than fakenews.


When you hear fakenews, ponder about it for a moment. When you exhale, what are you breathing out and where is it going? I can smell cigerette smoke some distance away for example.

Case closed.

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Former FL Democratic gubernatorial candidate Andrew Gillum indicted on 21 counts of funding fraud

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 22 12:21:04 2022, in response to If Gillum won......, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jun 25 17:03:08 2020.

CBS Miami

Former Democratic gubernatorial candidate Andrew Gillum indicted

Former Democratic gubernatorial candidate Andrew Gillum has been indicted on multiple charges connected to campaign contribution fraud during his 2018 run for governor of Florida.

A federal grand jury has returned a twenty-one count indictment against Gillum, 42.

The indictment alleges that between 2016 and 2019, Gillum and co-defendant Sharon Janet Lettman-Hicks conspired to commit wire fraud, by unlawfully soliciting and obtaining funds from various entities and individuals through false and fraudulent promises and representations that the funds would be used for a legitimate purpose.

The indictment also alleges Gillum and Lettman-Hicks used third parties to divert a portion of those funds to a company owned by Lettman-Hicks, who then fraudulently provided the funds, disguised as payroll payments, to Gillum for his personal use.

Both defendants are charged with 19 counts of wire fraud.

The former Tallahassee mayor is also charged with making false statements to agents of the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

Gillum's attorneys, Marc Elias and David Oscar Markus, issued the following statement: "The government got it wrong today. The evidence in this case is clear and will show that Mr. Gillum is innocent of all charges. We look forward to putting this case to rest and giving Andrew and his family peace of mind once and for all."

Authorities say Gillum and his co-defendant face the following prison terms, if found guilty:
  • 5 years: Making False Statements
  • 20 years: Conspiracy to Commit Wire Fraud
  • 20 years: Wire Fraud



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Re: Former FL Democratic gubernatorial candidate Andrew Gillum indicted on 21 counts of funding fraud

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 22 12:59:17 2022, in response to Former FL Democratic gubernatorial candidate Andrew Gillum indicted on 21 counts of funding fraud, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 22 12:21:04 2022.

2016-2019 and he was only indicted now. That’s how these things work.

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