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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jun 25 17:03:08 2020 Gyms in Florida would be closed.So if you go to the gym in Florida just remember that. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jun 25 17:10:08 2020, in response to If Gillum won......, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jun 25 17:03:08 2020. Florida would not have been part of the second wave.So if you catch Coronavirus in Florida just remember that. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Jun 25 17:13:12 2020, in response to Re: If Gillum won......, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jun 25 17:10:08 2020. Howso?You think a guy who passes out naked in his own vomit and wants to get rid of the Jews really knows about epidemiology? |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Jun 25 17:15:14 2020, in response to Re: If Gillum won......, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Jun 25 17:13:12 2020. You talking about Luch? |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Jun 25 17:21:38 2020, in response to If Gillum won......, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jun 25 17:03:08 2020. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Jun 25 17:35:47 2020, in response to Re: If Gillum won......, posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Jun 25 17:15:14 2020. The guy who almost won Florida in my NSFW link that is seered into my Brain.At least I never had to see the lady who lost Georgia Naked like I have with this creep. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jun 25 17:41:37 2020, in response to Re: If Gillum won......, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Jun 25 17:35:47 2020. He lost to an dumb-looking Trump-loving motherfucker. Of course he's going to hit the drugs. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jun 25 18:10:15 2020, in response to Re: If Gillum won......, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jun 25 17:10:08 2020. Bow are your parents doing in Miami? |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Jun 25 19:34:35 2020, in response to Re: If Gillum won......, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jun 25 17:41:37 2020. Click the link first. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jun 25 19:40:40 2020, in response to Re: If Gillum won......, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Jun 25 19:34:35 2020. Everyone hates my Gillum observation.Gyms would be closed because he'd govern like a Democrat. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri Jun 26 13:44:12 2020, in response to Re: If Gillum won......, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jun 25 19:40:40 2020. Why? Even DeBlassio went to the gym when he told everyone to stay home and not go to him.Democrats all violated their own stay at home orders. He's no different. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jul 6 18:28:00 2020, in response to If Gillum won......, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jun 25 17:03:08 2020. Anyone in a liberal state miss the gym?Will it suddenly be safe to open gyms after 11/3? Yes. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 6 18:38:39 2020, in response to Re: If Gillum won......, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jul 6 18:28:00 2020. I just read an article about how gyms are a pathogenic nightmare. |
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Posted by Easy on Mon Jul 6 18:39:56 2020, in response to Re: If Gillum won......, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 6 18:38:39 2020. My gym has sanitary wipes. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jul 6 18:44:55 2020, in response to Re: If Gillum won......, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 6 18:38:39 2020. Always have been.But NY and NJ are so communist they will keep gyms closed as close to election day as possible. |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Jul 6 18:49:49 2020, in response to Re: If Gillum won......, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jul 6 18:44:55 2020. We re also doing a hell of a lot better than the rest of the country with the virus right now. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Jul 6 18:51:05 2020, in response to Re: If Gillum won......, posted by Easy on Mon Jul 6 18:39:56 2020. Indoors. Exercising too hard to wear a mask. More exhalation and more inhalation because everyone is exercising hard. So one of the places where you are most likely to be breathing other people's exhalations.That makes a gym a really easy place to spread covid. Or let's put it another way. If covid didn't spread easily in a gym, where would it spread? We know a family barbecue can spread covid, and a bar can spread covid, so why wouldn't a gym be an even riskier place? |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Jul 6 18:57:48 2020, in response to Re: If Gillum won......, posted by AlM on Mon Jul 6 18:51:05 2020. A gym near me had the closest Amazon locker. Can't use that one anymore to get my orders. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jul 6 18:58:36 2020, in response to Re: If Gillum won......, posted by Joe V on Mon Jul 6 18:49:49 2020. Better weather.Arizona Texas Florida It's so hot so people socialize indoors. |
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Posted by Easy on Mon Jul 6 18:58:55 2020, in response to Re: If Gillum won......, posted by AlM on Mon Jul 6 18:51:05 2020. I still think that it’s the touching doing the most work. Inhaling coronavirus is much less likely to lead to disease.Our gym has machines separated more than usual with some of the cardio equipment outside. And they limit the people inside. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jul 6 19:02:09 2020, in response to Re: If Gillum won......, posted by AlM on Mon Jul 6 18:51:05 2020. Classes are riskier. Spin. Yoga.But lifting weights us fine. Most gyms tell people to wipe down equipment and provide spray and paper towels to do so. I have theories as to why you don't lift weights. |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Jul 6 19:04:04 2020, in response to Re: If Gillum won......, posted by Easy on Mon Jul 6 18:58:55 2020. I've heard the opposite - it's mostly an airborne disease of tiny droplets. The heavier ones that you see fall right to the ground. It is the invisible ones that float around longer that cause the trouble. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Jul 6 19:04:52 2020, in response to Re: If Gillum won......, posted by Easy on Mon Jul 6 18:58:55 2020. I disagree. It is not a skin disease. A sick person will exhale 10k virus particles per exhale, in a gym that's about 15-26 feet spread. (unless I messed up and we're talking 10 million particles per exhale?)How many breaths do you take at a gym? And given that this is indoors, with heavy aerosolization, how many millions of active virus particles are you inhaling. Given that Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome is not a flu (I still have to argue with dumbass assholes about this), it mimics HIV in how it rapidly gets to work and races the immune system. I've heard a microbiologist state that your mucus won't do much to defend against it. So good old fashioned spit isn't an answer. Of course, all of this information is from oversea's and things are different in America. Including biology and physics. |
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Posted by Easy on Mon Jul 6 19:05:18 2020, in response to Re: If Gillum won......, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jul 6 19:02:09 2020. Until recently I don’t think that most gyms had sanitizing wipes though. And as you know, over 90% of guys don’t wipe down equipment. I’m one of the few at any gym that I go to. Maybe they’re too macho. |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Jul 6 19:05:26 2020, in response to Re: If Gillum won......, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jul 6 18:58:36 2020. I had 98 degrees today until a thunderstorm brought it down 20 degrees. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Jul 6 19:05:58 2020, in response to Re: If Gillum won......, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jul 6 19:02:09 2020. Everytime I went to a gym, I'd get sick a few days later. Everytime.Do crossfit in an apartment at home. It's safer. Even with holes in the floor. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Jul 6 19:06:12 2020, in response to Re: If Gillum won......, posted by Easy on Mon Jul 6 18:58:55 2020. I still think that it’s the touching doing the most work. Inhaling coronavirus is much less likely to lead to disease.Well, the WHO agrees with you, but a whole bunch of leading scientists don't. But it's a very good thing that your gym separates the equipment as much as it can. |
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Posted by Easy on Mon Jul 6 19:08:05 2020, in response to Re: If Gillum won......, posted by Joe V on Mon Jul 6 19:04:04 2020. There has been lots of debate about this but I think that the scientific consensus is that it’s not airborne. It can be airborne but it doesn’t stay airborne. At least not in concentrations high enough to cause infection. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Jul 6 19:08:26 2020, in response to Re: If Gillum won......, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jul 6 19:02:09 2020. I agree that classes are worse, because people breather more deeply.You may have theories as to why I don't lift weights, but they would be inherently wrong. |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Jul 6 19:09:31 2020, in response to Re: If Gillum won......, posted by Easy on Mon Jul 6 19:08:05 2020. Then we would have all been sick or died by now from bringing home groceries, ordering takeout, and opening the mail. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Jul 6 19:09:41 2020, in response to Re: If Gillum won......, posted by Easy on Mon Jul 6 19:08:05 2020. I think that the scientific consensus is that it’s not airborne.See the link in my other post. That was the scientific consensus in March, but they (WHO excepted) have learned a lot since then. |
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Posted by Easy on Mon Jul 6 19:11:34 2020, in response to Re: If Gillum won......, posted by AlM on Mon Jul 6 19:06:12 2020. I may be out of date, but in my opinion a big sign that it’s not airborne is that all face coverings are similarly effective. More correctly they were for SARS. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Jul 6 19:11:37 2020, in response to Re: If Gillum won......, posted by Joe V on Mon Jul 6 19:09:31 2020. No. It's airborne, but you have to inhale enough of it. Passing by a masked individual in the supermarket for 3 seconds is low risk, but chatting close-up with someone in a bar for an hour, even without any physical contact, isn't. |
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Posted by Easy on Mon Jul 6 19:12:12 2020, in response to Re: If Gillum won......, posted by AlM on Mon Jul 6 19:09:41 2020. I may be out of date, although I’d say that was the consensus well into May. |
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Posted by Easy on Mon Jul 6 19:12:43 2020, in response to Re: If Gillum won......, posted by AlM on Mon Jul 6 19:11:37 2020. Based on what study? |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Jul 6 19:13:12 2020, in response to Re: If Gillum won......, posted by Easy on Mon Jul 6 19:11:34 2020. All face coverings limit the distance that people's exhalations travel.Why would a whole bunch of governors suddenly be converts to the idea of everyone wearing a mask in all indoor settings? |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Jul 6 19:13:46 2020, in response to Re: If Gillum won......, posted by Easy on Mon Jul 6 19:12:12 2020. OK, I won't argue the date. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Jul 6 19:15:54 2020, in response to Re: If Gillum won......, posted by Easy on Mon Jul 6 19:12:43 2020. You'd have to ask the 239 scientists who signed the letter which studies they most respect. Or there's probably more detail in some other article. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jul 6 19:16:32 2020, in response to Re: If Gillum won......, posted by Easy on Mon Jul 6 19:05:18 2020. Most people have a towel or gym provides or both.most gyms have spray bottles too. NY and NJ will keep gyms closed as close to election day as possible. It's about politics not the virus. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Jul 6 19:17:50 2020, in response to Re: If Gillum won......, posted by Easy on Mon Jul 6 18:58:55 2020. I would think it's the other way around. If touching spread it more than breathing it, EVERYONE would be infected by now. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jul 6 19:19:13 2020, in response to Re: If Gillum won......, posted by AlM on Mon Jul 6 19:08:26 2020. AlMDNAYou don't lift because you need to keep lower testosterone levels for your intellectual pursuits and lifestyle. |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Jul 6 19:19:44 2020, in response to Re: If Gillum won......, posted by Easy on Mon Jul 6 19:11:34 2020. Heard last week that bandanas are the least effective. Also better off with a filter. |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Jul 6 19:21:08 2020, in response to Re: If Gillum won......, posted by AlM on Mon Jul 6 19:13:12 2020. Their ICU beds are at capacity, so they got serious, rather than make mask-shaming a macho contest. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jul 6 19:22:06 2020, in response to Re: If Gillum won......, posted by AlM on Mon Jul 6 19:13:12 2020. Because it's getting close to Election Day. |
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Posted by Easy on Mon Jul 6 19:23:11 2020, in response to Re: If Gillum won......, posted by Joe V on Mon Jul 6 19:09:31 2020. Touching infected people Joe. Not touching groceries or mail. |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Jul 6 19:25:07 2020, in response to Re: If Gillum won......, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jul 6 19:16:32 2020. It's about the virus. My condo outdoor pool is closed too. My association couldn't care less about election, and the pool would have by shut after Labor day anyway. It's about liability insurance, lack of pool furniture, cleaning intensity, enforcing social distancing, and staffing costs for all of that, for which there is no budget. |
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Posted by Easy on Mon Jul 6 19:26:32 2020, in response to Re: If Gillum won......, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jul 6 19:16:32 2020. They have a towel, they wipe and then keep the towel!My gym had towels and wipes, but the wipes weren't sanitizing, ie they don't kill viruses. Now they have sanitizing wipes. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Jul 6 19:26:42 2020, in response to Re: If Gillum won......, posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Jul 6 19:17:50 2020. Yeah, you can't 100% avoid hand contact.I go to a store and take something off a shelf and put it in my basket. Somewhere along the line something I bought might have been previously been touched by a covid-positive person and then put back on the shelf. So now I might have this slightly covid-contaminated item in my basket. The bagger touches it with her gloved hand, so now she can pass the bit of covid on to all my other purchases. Or she can contaminate something of mine from a prior purchase that she touched. Then I go home and thoroughly wash my hands, and only then do I put stuff away in the fridge. But it's still potentially ever so slightly contaminated - I don't wipe down every food item before putting it away. And we know 40 degrees F doesn't kill covid. So 12 hours later I take it out of the fridge, and once again my hands might be ever so slightly contaminated. If this were like some nerve agent the Russians use to kill people, we'd all be dead by now. And meanwhile, people go to parties, bars, and restaurants, and never touch anyone else, and end up sick. |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Jul 6 19:27:10 2020, in response to Re: If Gillum won......, posted by Easy on Mon Jul 6 19:23:11 2020. It goes from an infected hand touching your stuff, then you touch that, and you touch your face. Think of wet paint getting on your hands and everywhere it goes. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Jul 6 19:27:23 2020, in response to Re: If Gillum won......, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jul 6 19:19:13 2020. There is a fundamental error in your sentence. |
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