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Posted by Dyre Dan on Thu Jun 11 01:47:27 2020 There is a possibility that the killing of George Floyd was motivated by more personal reasons than most people have assumed. Apparently, Floyd and Chauvin had worked security at the same nightclub. They knew each other and had had arguments before. Did Chauvin decide to kill Floyd to get rid of an antagonist he had a history with? That would make it first degree murder. It's a big IF right now, but no longer outside the realm of possibility. It needs looking into. And it would not explain the behavior of the other three cops who were there.https://thehill.com/changing-america/respect/equality/502006-george-floyd-and-derek-chauvin-bumped-heads-while-working |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jun 11 02:54:12 2020, in response to Was Floyd killing personal, rather than impersonal racism?, posted by Dyre Dan on Thu Jun 11 01:47:27 2020. I don't think it was racism or a grudge from their overlap at that club.I think Chauvin heard, "I can't breathe" as an escalation and mouthing off from someone who was going to jail. Chauvin was going to show the perp and especially onlookers that he isn't afraid of a brutality charge. But he kept his knee on for too long. (and you can bet every cop in America is asking why Chauvin's partners didn't do a better job of intimidating and dispersing the crowd instead of letting them get video and audio footage just 5 yards away) |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Thu Jun 11 03:55:38 2020, in response to Re: Was Floyd killing personal, rather than impersonal racism?, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jun 11 02:54:12 2020. why Chauvin's partners didn't do a better job of intimidating and dispersing the crowd instead of letting them get video and audio footage just 5 yards awayWell, they had no authority to do any such thing. Maybe they had been clearly told that. What they did have was an obligation to stop their partner from committing murder. Maybe their prosecution as accessories will make that message be one "every cop in America" will think about. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jun 11 05:33:52 2020, in response to Re: Was Floyd killing personal, rather than impersonal racism?, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jun 11 02:54:12 2020. If it is true that Chauvin held a grudge against Floyd from their work at the club, then isn't it possible that Chauvin, angered that a Black man would dare talk back to him, felt he could murder and use his authority as a police officer to give him legal cover? |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Thu Jun 11 07:46:14 2020, in response to Was Floyd killing personal, rather than impersonal racism?, posted by Dyre Dan on Thu Jun 11 01:47:27 2020. Maybe. But good luck trying to prove that beyond a reasonable doubt. Prosecutors should just stick with what they have, IMO. |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Thu Jun 11 08:35:18 2020, in response to Was Floyd killing personal, rather than impersonal racism?, posted by Dyre Dan on Thu Jun 11 01:47:27 2020. The accuser has retracted his story. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 11 09:08:46 2020, in response to Re: Was Floyd killing personal, rather than impersonal racism?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jun 11 05:33:52 2020. angered that a Black manGotta keep the racial aspect no matter the story. You aren't interested in truth. (ANd not that I am saying this story is true, but just that you wouldn't care either way as it wouldn't fit without your bigoted bias of race. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 11 09:10:59 2020, in response to Was Floyd killing personal, rather than impersonal racism?, posted by Dyre Dan on Thu Jun 11 01:47:27 2020. Wow, see there is always more to the story. Imagine all this tragedy and destruction because of a personal vendetta. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 11 09:22:16 2020, in response to Was Floyd killing personal, rather than impersonal racism?, posted by Dyre Dan on Thu Jun 11 01:47:27 2020. So they worked together. So this may be more to this story than the JayZee types are trying to hope it is.https://www.bet.com/news/national/2020/06/10/george-floyd-derek-chauvin-nightclub-former-coworker-bumped-heads.html |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jun 11 09:44:01 2020, in response to Re: Was Floyd killing personal, rather than impersonal racism?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jun 11 05:33:52 2020. angered that a Black manCapitalizing "Black" indicates a black supremacist anti-white bent. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jun 11 09:44:47 2020, in response to Was Floyd killing personal, rather than impersonal racism?, posted by Dyre Dan on Thu Jun 11 01:47:27 2020. Apparently, Floyd and Chauvin had worked security at the same nightclubHeard that two weeks ago. The organized outside (and worldwide) rioting drowned that out of the news. |
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Posted by Dan on Thu Jun 11 09:48:25 2020, in response to Was Floyd killing personal, rather than impersonal racism?, posted by Dyre Dan on Thu Jun 11 01:47:27 2020. This story gets stranger every day. Floyd was murdered, no doubt. But we shouldn't make a hero out of a guy who did time for pulling a gun on a pregnant woman.https://classichiphopmagazine.com/editor/2020/6/8/george-floyd-posed-as-a-water-company-man-to-rob-a-pregnant-woman? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jun 11 10:00:22 2020, in response to Re: Was Floyd killing personal, rather than impersonal racism?, posted by Dan on Thu Jun 11 09:48:25 2020. The family seems to be working to destroy any sympathy they may have earned from normal people; they actually petitioned the United Nations to disarm US police; their shyster lawyer Ben Crump (remember him?) actually called upon the UN to "intervene". |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Jun 11 10:07:53 2020, in response to Re: Was Floyd killing personal, rather than impersonal racism?, posted by Dan on Thu Jun 11 09:48:25 2020. Yes. Stranger every day. The fact that they actually knew each other also changes the whole narrative. Murder for sure, but the randomneas went poof. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Jun 11 10:08:10 2020, in response to Re: Was Floyd killing personal, rather than impersonal racism?, posted by Dan on Thu Jun 11 09:48:25 2020. Yes. Stranger every day. The fact that they actually knew each other also changes the whole narrative. Murder for sure, but the randomness went poof. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Jun 11 10:09:51 2020, in response to Re: Was Floyd killing personal, rather than impersonal racism?, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jun 11 09:44:47 2020. They don't want to hear it. They arent interested in the truth. They want it to have been totally random |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jun 11 10:18:43 2020, in response to Re: Was Floyd killing personal, rather than impersonal racism?, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jun 11 09:44:01 2020. No, capitalizing "Black' is a minor redress for 400 years of suffering at the hands of white people. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Jun 11 10:31:12 2020, in response to Re: Was Floyd killing personal, rather than impersonal racism?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jun 11 10:18:43 2020. Yet, your racist self...."white" people. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Jun 11 11:42:25 2020, in response to Re: Was Floyd killing personal, rather than impersonal racism?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jun 11 10:18:43 2020. Really well I think WHITE should be in all caps. Just my way of saying "fuck you"! |
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Posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Jun 11 12:13:21 2020, in response to Re: Was Floyd killing personal, rather than impersonal racism?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jun 11 10:18:43 2020. Is it ok to capitalize White? Or is that racist? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Jun 11 12:35:45 2020, in response to Re: Was Floyd killing personal, rather than impersonal racism?, posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Jun 11 12:13:21 2020. Why would you ask him? He's the biggest racist on this board. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Jun 11 12:59:08 2020, in response to Re: Was Floyd killing personal, rather than impersonal racism?, posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Jun 11 12:13:21 2020. Leave it to a racist like him to even come up with this nonsense. I never even thought about this ridiculousness |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jun 11 13:02:13 2020, in response to Re: Was Floyd killing personal, rather than impersonal racism?, posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Jun 11 12:13:21 2020. I guarantee you he'll say yes and I know why. |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Jun 11 13:05:53 2020, in response to Was Floyd killing personal, rather than impersonal racism?, posted by Dyre Dan on Thu Jun 11 01:47:27 2020. I JUST WANT TO LIVEOK??? |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Thu Jun 11 13:13:29 2020, in response to Re: Was Floyd killing personal, rather than impersonal racism?, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Thu Jun 11 07:46:14 2020. Agreed. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Jun 11 13:15:51 2020, in response to Was Floyd killing personal, rather than impersonal racism?, posted by Dyre Dan on Thu Jun 11 01:47:27 2020. Yeah it's old news.Do you think OBLM will return all of its dark money back to their donors? Why are people donating to rioters and thugs anyway? #giveitallbackscum |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jun 11 13:33:26 2020, in response to Re: Was Floyd killing personal, rather than impersonal racism?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jun 11 10:18:43 2020. And themselves! |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Thu Jun 11 13:52:11 2020, in response to Re: Was Floyd killing personal, rather than impersonal racism?, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jun 11 09:44:47 2020. I saw that also. At the time, the woman who owned the club (and presumably hired both of them) said that she thought they didn't know each other, as one worked primarily outside, and the other inside. Who knows. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jun 11 14:28:02 2020, in response to Re: Was Floyd killing personal, rather than impersonal racism?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jun 11 10:18:43 2020. Anti-white propaganda in reply? Wow. Just piss on the graves of all those awful whites who died on the Union side in the Civil War, why dontcha. And why don't you read some more lies out of that racist "1619 project" too?You live in a country that was at the forefront of slavery abolition, although it didn't have the strength to do it all at once. Right at the ratification of the US Constitution, there were free states. And our actions led to the British Empire outlawing slavery in 1807 too. But your leftist fellow travelers reversed all that, resulting in there being more slavery outside this terrible no-slavery country (and others) in the world at any time in human history. But keep nursing your unnatural hatred and see where that gets you, never mind the world. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jun 11 14:37:30 2020, in response to Re: Was Floyd killing personal, rather than impersonal racism?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jun 11 13:33:26 2020. So you agree with 1619 Project propaganda? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jun 11 14:58:18 2020, in response to Re: Was Floyd killing personal, rather than impersonal racism?, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jun 11 14:28:02 2020. It was so much at the forefront of slavery abolition that it was the second-to-last country to ban slavery, and it had to be done with immense violence. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jun 11 15:16:32 2020, in response to Re: Was Floyd killing personal, rather than impersonal racism?, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jun 11 14:37:30 2020. I have NO idea what you're talking about! |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Jun 11 15:39:23 2020, in response to Re: Was Floyd killing personal, rather than impersonal racism?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jun 11 05:33:52 2020. Everything's possible but everything's not probable |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Jun 11 15:41:06 2020, in response to Re: Was Floyd killing personal, rather than impersonal racism?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jun 11 15:16:32 2020. I never have any idea what he's talking about. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Jun 11 15:42:47 2020, in response to Re: Was Floyd killing personal, rather than impersonal racism?, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jun 11 09:44:01 2020. I capitalize all races and religions when I write. But then, this was just another stupid post by the red commie Olog. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Jun 11 15:57:32 2020, in response to Re: Was Floyd killing personal, rather than impersonal racism?, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jun 11 09:44:47 2020. I posted it 2 weeks ago: http://www.subchat.com/otchat/read.asp?Id=1734204 |
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Posted by Edwards! on Thu Jun 11 15:59:31 2020, in response to Re: Was Floyd killing personal, rather than impersonal racism?, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jun 11 09:44:01 2020. Yeah.Better to counteract you,the WHITE SUPREMACISTS/NATIONALISTS/PROLETARIAN/RUSSIAN ASSET. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Jun 11 16:09:45 2020, in response to Re: Was Floyd killing personal, rather than impersonal racism?, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jun 11 14:28:02 2020. And our actions led to the British Empire outlawing slavery in 1807 too.You're confusing the slave trade (abolished 1807 in Britain and in the US) with slavery (abolished 1833 in Britain and 1865 in the US). |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jun 11 16:16:57 2020, in response to Re: Was Floyd killing personal, rather than impersonal racism?, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jun 11 14:28:02 2020. You have that backwards. The British ended slavery long before the US did, and they accomplished that without a civil war.You should not only read the 1619 Project, but perhaps a few textbooks on American history. It's abundantly clear you only subscribe to your own unique version of events. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jun 11 16:17:54 2020, in response to Re: Was Floyd killing personal, rather than impersonal racism?, posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Jun 11 12:13:21 2020. Yes, that's perfectly fine |
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Posted by rkba on Thu Jun 11 16:27:14 2020, in response to Re: Was Floyd killing personal, rather than impersonal racism?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jun 11 13:33:26 2020. shush you're not allowed to talk about that.leftist propaganda says black people only die because of white cops. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jun 11 16:32:33 2020, in response to Re: Was Floyd killing personal, rather than impersonal racism?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jun 11 15:16:32 2020. You said "and" to his "400 years" lie. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jun 11 16:47:29 2020, in response to Re: Was Floyd killing personal, rather than impersonal racism?, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jun 11 16:32:33 2020. What is false about the 400-year history of racism in the United States and her predecessors? |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jun 11 17:21:45 2020, in response to Re: Was Floyd killing personal, rather than impersonal racism?, posted by rkba on Thu Jun 11 16:27:14 2020. Well....WE know better... |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jun 11 17:23:11 2020, in response to Re: Was Floyd killing personal, rather than impersonal racism?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jun 11 16:16:57 2020. A system practiced in Africa, by Africans. Brought about by our good friends from the Religion of Peace! |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jun 11 17:23:52 2020, in response to Re: Was Floyd killing personal, rather than impersonal racism?, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jun 11 16:32:33 2020. I meant that they kill each other, all day, every day. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jun 11 17:37:34 2020, in response to Re: Was Floyd killing personal, rather than impersonal racism?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jun 11 17:23:52 2020. I got that part. But it's not the case that they were oppressed by whitey for four centuries. |
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Posted by rkba on Thu Jun 11 17:38:23 2020, in response to Re: Was Floyd killing personal, rather than impersonal racism?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jun 11 17:21:45 2020. and that's why WE are the enemy.being informed is the opposite of what leftists want. |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Thu Jun 11 18:58:53 2020, in response to Re: Was Floyd killing personal, rather than impersonal racism?, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jun 11 17:37:34 2020. Well, yeah, it is. It wasn't "foundational" to what the United States became. It started out as a relatively minor aspect of our history. But yes, African slaves were imported in 1619 to what became the United States. And since slavery is certainly a form of oppression, and many blacks continue to feel oppressed, then yes, saying there have been "400 years of oppression" is not inaccurate. |
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Posted by rkba on Thu Jun 11 19:00:58 2020, in response to Re: Was Floyd killing personal, rather than impersonal racism?, posted by Dyre Dan on Thu Jun 11 18:58:53 2020. feelings are often at odds with reality. |
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