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Re: Veterans Affairs to remove swastikas from headstones in TX and UT |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 3 18:12:10 2020, in response to Re: Veterans Affairs to remove swastikas from headstones in TX and UT, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 3 18:06:34 2020. You provided no evidence but the words of known Nazis (and you acknowledged that they were such). I could provide evidence that Nazism and fascism is on the right, but you would dismiss it because you only like hearing things from Nazis. |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Wed Jun 3 18:13:40 2020, in response to Re: VA to remove swastika's from headstones, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 3 18:10:08 2020. just like Vietnam veterans in vietnam/cambodia get appropriate markings , so yes |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 3 18:17:03 2020, in response to Re: Veterans Affairs to remove swastikas from headstones in TX and UT, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 3 18:12:10 2020. You provided no evidenceYou're in love with argumentum ad lapidem. The fascist and Nazis acted on their words, and nothing in history proves otherwise. If you weren't just another boring troll, you could be a brilliant ent. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 3 18:19:03 2020, in response to Re: Veterans Affairs to remove swastikas from headstones in TX and UT, posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Jun 3 18:11:14 2020. Who are you calling a "goy"? My late father was a Jew. And calling that person I was replying to a "Jew" makes you more Nazi-like, frankly, since the national socialists like to point out that Karl Marx was descended from Jews in order to perpetuate their lie that communism is a Jewish plot to take over the world. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Jun 3 18:19:08 2020, in response to Re: VA to remove swastika's from headstones, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 3 18:10:08 2020. I don't really understand who would have authorized these swastikas in the first place. These are unclaimed bodies. Why would some military official in 1943 or 1944 have allowed this? It's not even as though the families requested them. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 3 18:19:13 2020, in response to Re: VA to remove swastika's from headstones, posted by Dutchrailnut on Wed Jun 3 18:13:40 2020. The swastika is not an appropriate marking. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 3 18:23:11 2020, in response to Re: Veterans Affairs to remove swastikas from headstones in TX and UT, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 3 18:19:03 2020. So you're a goy.And Karl Marx was born a Jew. Facts are facts whether you like them or not. And you, GOY and follower of an extremist religion* dare to impugn my Jewishness? FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE. *Not Christianity in general. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 3 18:25:50 2020, in response to Re: VA to remove swastika's from headstones, posted by Dutchrailnut on Wed Jun 3 18:09:26 2020. Who said anything about unmarked graves? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 3 18:40:02 2020, in response to Re: Veterans Affairs to remove swastikas from headstones in TX and UT, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 3 18:23:11 2020. And Karl Marx was born a JewThat's what the Nazis like to say, when they claim that communism is a Jewish plot to take over the world. BTW, Karl Marx was not born a Jew, religiously. His father Heinrich Marx (originally Herschel Levy) converted to Lutheranism before he was born, and was irreligious before his official conversion. His mother, Henriette, also converted. I didn't impugn your Jewishness; but you do it yourself. I prefer that you stop doing it. |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed Jun 3 18:58:55 2020, in response to Re: VA to remove swastika's from headstones, posted by SLRT on Wed Jun 3 11:40:52 2020. Just curious, are there American soldiers buried in Axis country cemeteries ? |
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Posted by SLRT on Wed Jun 3 19:03:32 2020, in response to Re: VA to remove swastika's from headstones, posted by Joe V on Wed Jun 3 18:58:55 2020. I don't know. And Nazis were not famous for respecting the rights of POWs. |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Wed Jun 3 19:18:14 2020, in response to Re: VA to remove swastika's from headstones, posted by AlM on Wed Jun 3 18:19:08 2020. its called courtesy a term lost these days. |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Wed Jun 3 19:19:19 2020, in response to Re: VA to remove swastika's from headstones, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 3 18:19:13 2020. at time it was , were not talking a statue but a at that time appropriate gesture. |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Wed Jun 3 19:20:04 2020, in response to Re: VA to remove swastika's from headstones, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 3 18:25:50 2020. that is what VA seems to suggest. |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Wed Jun 3 19:21:06 2020, in response to Re: VA to remove swastika's from headstones, posted by Joe V on Wed Jun 3 18:58:55 2020. yes many at time later moved to other Cemetaries like Margraten in NL and few others. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Jun 3 19:23:09 2020, in response to Re: VA to remove swastika's from headstones, posted by Dutchrailnut on Wed Jun 3 19:18:14 2020. ???Courtesy to Hitler? These were unclaimed bodies, so it wasn't courtesy to the families. |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Wed Jun 3 19:27:02 2020, in response to Re: VA to remove swastika's from headstones, posted by Dutchrailnut on Wed Jun 3 19:18:14 2020. the symbols of a country did not necessarily reflect on leader. only 50% of Germans backed the Fuhrer but they all backed Germany , sounds familiar , just watch evening news in Murica |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 3 19:29:25 2020, in response to Re: VA to remove swastika's from headstones, posted by SLRT on Wed Jun 3 19:03:32 2020. You mean Hogan's Heroes was unrealistic? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 3 19:36:46 2020, in response to Re: VA to remove swastika's from headstones, posted by Dutchrailnut on Wed Jun 3 19:27:02 2020. Germany has and had its own non-Nazi symbols. |
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Posted by ntrainride on Wed Jun 3 19:47:39 2020, in response to Re: Veterans Affairs to remove swastikas from headstones in TX and UT, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 3 18:06:34 2020. I don't read his ignorant, uneducated tripe. makes being on this board a whole lot more fun. much better. well, him, and about four other morons.but it isn't any good to feed his pathetic pleas for attention. i mean, do you see how many posts that idiot makes? it's plainly...and sadly obvious that he has no female companionship who would tell him something like: "will. you. Please. get. off. the. goddamn. COMPUTER and come to bed??? i'm here naked. you little putz!" |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Wed Jun 3 19:52:44 2020, in response to Re: VA to remove swastika's from headstones, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 3 19:36:46 2020. if you say so, but not at the time . |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Jun 3 20:04:46 2020, in response to Re: Veterans Affairs to remove swastikas from headstones in TX and UT, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 3 18:19:03 2020. Goy translated means "nation". |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Jun 3 20:05:04 2020, in response to Re: VA to remove swastika's from headstones, posted by AlM on Wed Jun 3 18:19:08 2020. Ah, I found one answer. The tombstone for the guy is Utah was commissioned by his fellow prisoners. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Jun 3 20:06:22 2020, in response to Re: Veterans Affairs to remove swastikas from headstones in TX and UT, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 3 18:40:02 2020. ...and his brother Chico was Italian. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Jun 3 20:08:45 2020, in response to Re: Veterans Affairs to remove swastikas from headstones in TX and UT, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 3 18:19:03 2020. My late father was a Jew.What is your point? I am a direct descendant through the male line of Jewish ancestors. In fact, they were Levis. Does that make me a Jew and a Levi? I don't think so. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jun 3 20:27:21 2020, in response to Re: VA to remove swastika's from headstones, posted by Dutchrailnut on Wed Jun 3 18:09:26 2020. Removing swastikas from the headstone is not the equivalent of an unmarked grave. The names and other known info would remain |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 3 20:39:08 2020, in response to Re: Veterans Affairs to remove swastikas from headstones in TX and UT, posted by ntrainride on Wed Jun 3 19:47:39 2020. Being criticized by you is like being hated by a cockroach. You’re garbage. Everyone agrees you’re garbage. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 3 20:40:40 2020, in response to Re: VA to remove swastika's from headstones, posted by Dutchrailnut on Wed Jun 3 19:52:44 2020. So what? |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Wed Jun 3 21:37:05 2020, in response to Re: Veterans Affairs to remove swastikas from headstones in TX and UT, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 3 18:17:03 2020. Enough with the damn Latin. I'm sure you could find English words to express the same thoughts, but you just like showing off |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 3 21:45:55 2020, in response to Re: Veterans Affairs to remove swastikas from headstones in TX and UT, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Wed Jun 3 21:37:05 2020. I agree. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 3 22:04:08 2020, in response to Re: Veterans Affairs to remove swastikas from headstones in TX and UT, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Wed Jun 3 21:37:05 2020. Enough with the damn LatinIs your name cortelyounext? I'm sure you could find English words to express the same thoughts, but you just like showing off Immature response. I'm sure you could find an online translator, or just look up the names of these logical fallacies on Google to find their English equivalents. Sad to see certain people don't want to improve themselves; logic is one of the lost arts, it seems. |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Thu Jun 4 07:44:30 2020, in response to Re: Veterans Affairs to remove swastikas from headstones in TX and UT, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 3 22:04:08 2020. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Jun 4 07:59:07 2020, in response to Re: Veterans Affairs to remove swastikas from headstones in TX and UT, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 3 20:39:08 2020. Sounds like you're the one quoting nazi's now. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Jun 4 08:00:54 2020, in response to Re: Veterans Affairs to remove swastikas from headstones in TX and UT, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Jun 3 18:01:21 2020. Anyway, I learned something from the covid mess. People who are brought up in so-called conservative christian area's have their own facist tendencies and don't seem to respect life as much as they claim. I think its a misunderstanding of Gd and how the world works quite frankly and I'm not very impressed. |
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Posted by The Silence on Thu Jun 4 09:17:49 2020, in response to Re: VA to remove swastika's from headstones, posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Jun 3 10:39:58 2020. Because they were soldiers. POWs, and this is how you're supposed to treat them, ever heard of the Geneva Conventions? Do you honestly expect us to stoop to their boss' level? No. we're supposed to be BETTER than people like him.I should also point out that a 1943 poll showed about 3/4 of Americans harbored no ill will against the Germans as a people, placing the blame on their government. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Jun 4 09:27:38 2020, in response to Re: VA to remove swastika's from headstones, posted by The Silence on Thu Jun 4 09:17:49 2020. ever heard of the Geneva Conventions?Of course they should be buried in a marked, recorded grave. But does the Geneva Convention require them to be buried in a military cemetery? Just asking. I don't know the answer. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Jun 4 09:51:16 2020, in response to Re: VA to remove swastika's from headstones, posted by The Silence on Thu Jun 4 09:17:49 2020. Exactly what do you think is being proposed here? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jun 4 10:18:05 2020, in response to Re: Veterans Affairs to remove swastikas from headstones in TX and UT, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Jun 4 07:59:07 2020. They always get caught in their own traps. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jun 4 10:28:01 2020, in response to Re: VA to remove swastika's from headstones, posted by The Silence on Thu Jun 4 09:17:49 2020. ever heard of the Geneva Conventions?They're quite extensive. And while I don't see what specifically applies here, we haven't withdrawn from them. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jun 4 10:31:54 2020, in response to Re: Veterans Affairs to remove swastikas from headstones in TX and UT, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Jun 4 08:00:54 2020. People who are brought up in so-called conservative christian areaWhat are you referring to? |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Jun 4 11:15:57 2020, in response to Re: Veterans Affairs to remove swastikas from headstones in TX and UT, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jun 4 10:31:54 2020. What or who? The underline suggests a who question.In my travels in this vast country, I've noticed that people are democrats in cities where their neighbors are democrats. A chunk of them aren't imo. And people are republicans in area's where everyone is republican. These folks have bizarre theories where if I wear a mask I am "subjugating myself to the government", and that people are dying of covid in Pakistan to derail Trump. That's the What and the Who. And they both have serious issues when you get to the outer edges of insanity where they sound like each other at some point. Outlandishly selfish when it comes to their hair. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jun 4 11:16:21 2020, in response to Re: VA to remove swastika's from headstones, posted by Train Dude on Thu Jun 4 09:51:16 2020. She's responding to Jeff's question about why they should be buried in a US military cemetery. The VA isn't removing them from the cemetery. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jun 4 11:31:34 2020, in response to Re: Veterans Affairs to remove swastikas from headstones in TX and UT, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Jun 4 11:15:57 2020. You changed your terminology from "conservative" to "Republican and Democrat". So you're obscuring who you are referring to. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jun 4 11:35:32 2020, in response to Re: Veterans Affairs to remove swastikas from headstones in TX and UT, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Jun 4 07:59:07 2020. Nbrainfried is hardly worthy of your defense. |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Thu Jun 4 13:22:26 2020, in response to Re: Veterans Affairs to remove swastikas from headstones in TX and UT, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 3 21:45:55 2020. Thanks |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jun 4 13:26:55 2020, in response to Re: Veterans Affairs to remove swastikas from headstones in TX and UT, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Thu Jun 4 07:44:30 2020. IAWTZ. Using obscure Latin when there’s a good English translation is both pretentious, and intended to obfuscate. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Jun 4 13:32:43 2020, in response to Re: Veterans Affairs to remove swastikas from headstones in TX and UT, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jun 4 11:35:32 2020. I used to hate a lot of people before I was born again. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Jun 4 13:59:46 2020, in response to Re: Veterans Affairs to remove swastikas from headstones in TX and UT, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jun 4 11:31:34 2020. I see your point. I'm sure they call themselves conservative, but I think it's more cultural for them.To quote Obama, whose speech was stolen by the Governor of Massachusetts, "words matter". But then you get into this argument I heard of antifa, what does it stand for? anti-facist. how is that bad? facepalm. They call themselves republican or conservative, I don't see them that way. Some of them sound as facist to me as the rest of them. I'd ignore it as a few nutcases, but for at least 5 years I see that whatever everyone yells in unison online, is the common refrain now offline. internet is a toxin. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jun 4 14:02:00 2020, in response to Re: Veterans Affairs to remove swastikas from headstones in TX and UT, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Jun 4 13:59:46 2020. They call themselves republican or conservative, I don't see them that way. Some of them sound as fascist to me as the rest of themThey're usually called RINOs. And yes, there is no shortage of them. |
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Posted by rkba on Thu Jun 4 16:26:51 2020, in response to VA to remove swastika's from headstones, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Jun 3 08:02:55 2020. the rewriting of history continues. |
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