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Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s)

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue May 26 14:08:48 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 26 12:51:38 2020.

Although, a few Presidents, and assuming more VPs as well, had mixed ancestry.

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Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s)

Posted by Joe V on Tue May 26 18:03:44 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 26 10:35:57 2020.

I watched the Dana Bash interview at 5pm. He committed to a woman. He does not commit to a woman of color. We will not know for another 6 - 8 weeks for the vetting process to take place.

There was absolutely NO stuttering, fumbling of words, of sentences, or anything else that indicated doddering or dementia. For him,. he was pretty rough on Trump (mild for us) for his macho mask nonsense and emotional control.

His face was obviously distressed when they were talking about his son Beau, which is acceptable and expected. One does not ever "get over" loosing their child.

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Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s)

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue May 26 21:24:51 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Joe V on Tue May 26 13:34:10 2020.

Are you brain dead???
New york, New Jersey, Washington, Oregon, washington state are all coastal. Colorado is the only one that isn't, but fits into the "New Mexico and a couple others".
Nice try though.

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Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s)

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 26 21:33:37 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue May 26 21:24:51 2020.

What is wrong with you? All of those states are blue only because of those cities Joe mentioned. Just like Illinois and Chicago. But you don’t give a flying fuck about rural voters from blue states. You just pretend they don’t exist.

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Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s)

Posted by ClearAspect on Tue May 26 21:59:52 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 26 21:33:37 2020.

Do you expect anything else from Chris? He stereotypes more than anyone else here while crying that others do it.

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Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s)

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue May 26 22:33:05 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 26 21:33:37 2020.

Bingo!! The high populated urban centric would hijack the whole country if not for the safeguards written in. They haven't a clue what much of the rest of the country needs.
So yes. The coastal elites....

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Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s)

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 26 22:51:26 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue May 26 22:33:05 2020.

No, they wouldn’t. The only reason the cities currently “hijack” the blue states (your words, not mine) is because of the wasted vote effect, thanks to the clown college. If there were a national popular vote, ALL of the rural areas would count equally.

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Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s)

Posted by ClearAspect on Wed May 27 00:18:06 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue May 26 22:33:05 2020.

Nah you just want the red to stay in control so you take pride in reducing the power of the individual. Elitism? No its being elite that sum idiot in kansas or iowa means more than those in other states. Thats elitist

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Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s)

Posted by Joe V on Wed May 27 07:03:01 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue May 26 22:33:05 2020.

Look at a population density map, or a Red/blue map of what countries went for Trump. ND + SD + MT = Queens, yet they have 6 US Senators. They are way over represented as it is. They have hijacked us and haven't a clue of what we need.

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Posted by Joe V on Wed May 27 07:07:53 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 26 21:33:37 2020.

Pennsylvania is not really a coastal state.

Philly, State College, Pittsburgh, and Erie are what keep it a bluish-purple. In other words, that is where people, as opposed to possums, bear, and deer, actually live, and tend to be better educated as well. in NJ, we refer to the rest of Pennsylvania as "Alabama".

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Posted by Joe V on Wed May 27 07:59:00 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue May 26 22:33:05 2020.

Do you know why we can't get the Hudson rail tunnels funded ?
Because the:

- Senate Majority leader is from Kentucky
- his wife is DOT Secretary
- Senate Majority Whip is from South Dakota
- Republican Conference Chair is from Wyoming
- Potential tie breaker vote of the VP is from Indiana.

Enjoy you "safeguards" Chris.
We are being ruled and hijacked by elites from states where few live.



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Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s)

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 27 08:31:56 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Joe V on Wed May 27 07:03:01 2020.

And we’re the elitists.

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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 27 08:33:21 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by ClearAspect on Wed May 27 00:18:06 2020.

Not even Kansas. The vacant states like Wyoming. Wyoming is only slightly more populous than Staten Island. Where are Staten Island’s two senators?

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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 27 08:36:06 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Joe V on Wed May 27 07:07:53 2020.

That’s what James Carville called the middle part of Pennsylvania.

Upstate New York is the same. The difference is that NYC and its suburbs are the vast majority of the state population. The city alone is about 40%.

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Posted by ClearAspect on Wed May 27 08:38:54 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 27 08:33:21 2020.

Listen you know chris does bad against facts.

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Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s)

Posted by Train Dude on Wed May 27 08:39:25 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 27 08:31:56 2020.

yes you are.

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Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s)

Posted by Train Dude on Wed May 27 08:40:36 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 27 08:33:21 2020.

Totally idiotic comment.

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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 27 08:43:24 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Train Dude on Wed May 27 08:40:36 2020.

“Idiotic comment” translation: Train Dude disagrees.

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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 27 08:43:46 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Train Dude on Wed May 27 08:39:25 2020.

You think that’s an insult?

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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed May 27 08:49:51 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Joe V on Wed May 27 07:03:01 2020.

And speaking of Queens, Cortez is a perfect example of why her city elitist ideals shouldn't be anywhere near those states

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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed May 27 08:50:45 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 27 08:33:21 2020.

At least Staten island's would be republican.

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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed May 27 08:51:42 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Joe V on Wed May 27 07:07:53 2020.

Philadelphia? Forgetting somewhere?

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Posted by Joe V on Wed May 27 09:00:47 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed May 27 08:49:51 2020.

You have no problem with rural elitest ideals from Kentucky and South Dakota affecting Queens.

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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed May 27 09:04:26 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Joe V on Wed May 27 09:00:47 2020.

There's nothing elitist about rural.
And NYC and NY state's Democratic ideals are destroying queens all its own.

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Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s)

Posted by Joe V on Wed May 27 09:06:14 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 27 08:36:06 2020.

Consider "downstate" to be the 11 (or is ts 12 ?) MTA counties.

Not all upstate is the same. Albany and Rochester tend to be further left of the rest of upstate. But then the Southern Tier has depopulated and de-industrialized more over the last 40 years than the South Bronx. Completing the Southern Tier Expressway, then upgrading it to I-86, has sped up the evacuation.

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Posted by Joe V on Wed May 27 09:07:31 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed May 27 09:04:26 2020.

I am sure McConnell and Thune live in very nice mansions.

Define "destroying".

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Posted by Train Dude on Wed May 27 09:10:26 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 27 08:43:24 2020.

no! Idiotic because it goes against the constitution. Now I know that in the past you've disregarded sections of the constitution that you disagree with. In this case, Article I Section 3 1st paragraph is quite clear.

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Posted by Train Dude on Wed May 27 09:11:22 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 27 08:43:46 2020.

not at all. If that were my goal I could certainly do better.

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Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s)

Posted by Joe V on Wed May 27 09:18:00 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed May 27 08:51:42 2020.

Look at a map and see where the rest of Pennsylvania is.

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Posted by AlM on Wed May 27 09:30:53 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Joe V on Wed May 27 09:06:14 2020.

Completing the Southern Tier Expressway, then upgrading it to I-86, has sped up the evacuation.

How's that? Usually better roads mean people are more likely to commute longer distances (say to gas drilling jobs in PA) and less likely to move.



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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 27 09:33:10 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed May 27 08:49:51 2020.

And speaking of rural areas, Steve King is a perfect example of why his rural salt-of-the-Earth ideals shouldn't be anywhere near the coasts.

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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 27 09:33:59 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed May 27 09:04:26 2020.

It absolutely is its own form of elitism. The term “salt of the Earth” is used in that case.

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Posted by AlM on Wed May 27 09:34:32 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 27 08:36:06 2020.

And even "upstate NY" includes significant cities like Utica, Rome, Syracuse, Rochester, Buffalo, Binghamton, and Elmira. They are a lot bigger than places like Johnstown and Altoona.


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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 27 09:37:14 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Joe V on Wed May 27 09:07:31 2020.

And McConnell lives in a city (Louisville), not on a farm.

It’s easier for special interests to influence rural Senators. Fewer voters to convince with campaign propaganda. So all of the Koch brother money, etc. goes to the small state senators.

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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 27 09:38:01 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed May 27 08:51:42 2020.

Huh?

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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed May 27 10:01:09 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Joe V on Wed May 27 07:07:53 2020.

Mayor Kenney has referred to Philadelphia as "an East Coast city" many times.

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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed May 27 10:07:54 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 27 09:33:59 2020.

That's fine, but they would never be heard over the coastal elitists. Let them destroy their own states and cuties, as for the most part they are doing

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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed May 27 10:08:38 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Joe V on Wed May 27 09:18:00 2020.

That's wonderful, but you said Pennsylvania is shaped by Pittsburg and erie

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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed May 27 10:10:02 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by AlM on Wed May 27 09:30:53 2020.

He's one of those leftists feel that feel good roads are bad

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Posted by Joe V on Wed May 27 10:10:07 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by AlM on Wed May 27 09:30:53 2020.

Didn't work out that way up there. I have traveled it and stayed there may a time over the last 45 years.

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Posted by Joe V on Wed May 27 10:13:35 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by AlM on Wed May 27 09:34:32 2020.

Elmira has pretty much fallen apart, sprawled out to out Horseheads and Corning. Arnot Mall started downtown's decline in the 1970's.

Similar has happened to Jamestown, once home to 35 furniture manufacturers, now down to 0 or 1. City bus system in the 1980's collapsed. Chautauqua County had to partially fill in.

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Posted by Joe V on Wed May 27 10:14:49 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed May 27 10:10:02 2020.

Didn't say they were bad, but they did no economic good.


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Posted by Joe V on Wed May 27 10:15:48 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed May 27 10:08:38 2020.

How many Coast Guard cutters are stationed in Pittsburgh and Erie ?

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Posted by ClearAspect on Wed May 27 10:19:07 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed May 27 10:07:54 2020.

Then with blue states destroyed... who is gonna give all that sweet tax money to your poor and broke red states?

Mississippi, West Virginia, Montana, Kentucky, Arizona, Alabama, South Carolina, Wyoming, Louisiana, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Tennessee...

If the blue states go down, your red states that need our blue state money go down as well.

Be grateful for coastal elites. They prop up the weaker states...

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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 27 10:28:40 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Train Dude on Wed May 27 09:10:26 2020.

I don’t care that it goes against the Constitution. That’s what amendments are for.

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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 27 10:29:54 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Train Dude on Wed May 27 09:11:22 2020.

Compliment accepted.

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Posted by Joe V on Wed May 27 10:31:17 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by ClearAspect on Wed May 27 10:19:07 2020.

Need it ? Red states LIVE on our money.

NY is the #1 donor State.
KY is the #3 recipient state. And for that, McConnell, Paul, and Massey spit on us.

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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 27 10:32:54 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by ClearAspect on Wed May 27 10:19:07 2020.

PWN3D!

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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 27 10:33:36 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed May 27 10:07:54 2020.

And now the coastal “elitists” never get heard. How is that better?

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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 27 10:34:01 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed May 27 10:08:38 2020.

No, he said Philadelphia first.

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