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Posted by 3-9 on Tue May 26 04:31:41 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by Joe V on Mon May 25 13:03:51 2020. It's coming from Trump, who doesn't have any concept of shame. OTOH, the Republicans are pretty quiet about it. |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue May 26 06:45:50 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by 3-9 on Tue May 26 04:31:41 2020. Republicans are terrified of a nasty tweet from the man-child POTUS, then a revolt from their constituency, who would never vote for a Democrat anyway. |
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Posted by jimmymc25 on Tue May 26 06:58:09 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon May 25 22:13:50 2020. We'll see. |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue May 26 08:21:55 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon May 25 22:13:50 2020. Doesn't look that way now.Trump campaign has given up on turning NH, MN, and NV Blue. They are focusing to 2016's 6 Red states, and they are currently losing 5 of them. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue May 26 08:22:29 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon May 25 22:13:50 2020. Trump will EASILY win.The "easily" part (for either candidate) is very unlikely. Something momentous would have to happen for Trump to end up with more popular votes than Biden. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue May 26 08:39:28 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon May 25 22:13:50 2020. I don't think it will be easily.However, if the economy bounces back, and our coronavirus numbers remain comparable to the rest of the world, and Joe is forced to debate, I don't see Trump being underwater come November. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 26 09:12:46 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue May 26 08:39:28 2020. You’re ignoring the fact that Biden held his own in a one on one with Sanders, someone who is far more coherent than Trump.It seems more and more that the myth of Biden’s dementia is just like Hillary’s health. Another lie put forward by the shameless Trump machine. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue May 26 09:16:16 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by Joe V on Tue May 26 08:21:55 2020. why would President Trump want to turn NH, MN and NV Blue? Please explain that, Joey. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue May 26 09:38:00 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon May 25 22:08:18 2020. We all understand why Klobuchar is extremely unpopular with certain democratic voting groups. She prosecuted criminals in that group. Its sort of why that sa.e voting group doesn't support Kayla Harris. Her problems run deeper because she is more obvious when she panders. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue May 26 09:59:35 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 25 14:07:32 2020. Sometimes you say some really silly things |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue May 26 11:24:43 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 26 09:12:46 2020. Like all the impeachable offences "Trump committed"?? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 26 11:26:59 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue May 26 11:24:43 2020. Trump actually committed impeachable offenses. Despite the fact that some of the things that Trump was accused of (e.g. collusion) were mostly bullshit. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue May 26 11:30:28 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 26 11:26:59 2020. Yeah okay |
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Posted by AlM on Tue May 26 11:36:46 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 26 11:26:59 2020. The Trump campaign attempted to collude with the Russians ("sure, we'd love any dirt you have on Hillary") but evidently didn't succeed. And Flynn lied about stuff that sure made it look like collusion was going on (though it turned out not to be).So the investigation was far from bullshit. There was plenty of reason to suspect collusion. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 26 11:38:22 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by AlM on Tue May 26 11:36:46 2020. IAWTP |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue May 26 11:59:42 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by AlM on Tue May 26 11:36:46 2020. LOL@AlMa |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue May 26 12:01:15 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by Train Dude on Tue May 26 09:16:16 2020. What do you think ? Get more electoral votes, aim at bigger victory, and insurance against any Red state turning BlueYou act like I made these things. up. Maybe you ought to listen to something besides FOX. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue May 26 12:05:39 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by Joe V on Tue May 26 12:01:15 2020. You act like I made these things. up.You said "blue" when you meant "red" or "away from blue." An absolutely horrible mistake that completely shatters any credibility you previously had. :) |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 26 12:07:36 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by AlM on Tue May 26 12:05:39 2020. Maybe he's trying to realign the colors to the correct blue=right, red=left. 😊 |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue May 26 12:09:40 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by AlM on Tue May 26 12:05:39 2020. I said " insurance against any Red state turning Blue".That is exactly correct. Who is to say Ohio or Iowa, which were Red in 2016, can't turn Blue this time ? |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue May 26 12:13:40 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by AlM on Tue May 26 12:05:39 2020. "Trump campaign has given up on turning NH, MN, and NV Blue.Ah, that's what you meant. Yes, I should have said Red. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 26 12:31:16 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by Joe V on Tue May 26 12:09:40 2020. If OH or IA turn blue, so would FL, and WI, making them irrelevant. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue May 26 12:38:36 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 26 12:31:16 2020. Yeah, as long as nothing dramatic happens in the positions of the states, relative to 2016 or to current preliminary polls, it's very simple:Biden must turn MI and PA, or he's almost certainly out of the running. Trump must hold onto all three of WI, AZ, and FL. If Biden gets any of those three, he will almost certainly also get MI and PA (as well as MN, NH, and NV, which Clinton got by close margins), and that's enough to knock off Trump. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue May 26 12:38:56 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 26 09:12:46 2020. Except Sanders didn't debate with intent to antagonize, which Trump will. When Biden is antagonized he says dumb shit, like calling people fat, telling them not to vote for him, or telling reporters to "calm down". Trump saying dumb shit is baked in to his support already. Biden does have to be better than Trump on this since a large part of the negative partisanship drive is Trump's lack of decorum. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue May 26 12:43:52 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue May 26 11:24:43 2020. Solicitation of a bribe was demonstrated with ample evidence in House hearings. The White House blocked additional witnesses who would have confirmed this even more strongly. |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue May 26 12:51:30 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 26 12:31:16 2020. FL is always a cliff-hanger. |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue May 26 12:52:55 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by AlM on Tue May 26 12:43:52 2020. Plenty of people are in jail for bribery even though money transfer never panned out. |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue May 26 12:54:04 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue May 26 12:38:56 2020. Fact checking will follow every debate. Besides Biden's likely gaffs, every phrase that comes out of Trump's mouth is a lie. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 26 13:10:00 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue May 26 12:38:56 2020. People are also forgetting that Biden debated Sarah Palin and Paul Ryan ably. True, the latter was eight years ago and if the dementia narrative is accurate he will be worse now. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 26 13:10:31 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by Joe V on Tue May 26 12:54:04 2020. Biden has been a gaffe machine for decades. Everyone knows this. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue May 26 13:13:21 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 26 13:10:00 2020. if the dementia narrative is accurateMany people become less articulate as they age, even without dementia. Of course, Trump is also an example of that phenomenon. |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue May 26 13:19:42 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 26 13:10:31 2020. And it's baked into the poling. |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue May 26 13:21:20 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 26 13:10:00 2020. Debating Ryan is an accomplishment.But anybody in a high school debate club could crush Palin. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 26 13:38:55 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by Joe V on Tue May 26 13:21:20 2020. Trump is more like Palin than Ryan. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue May 26 13:50:17 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue May 26 12:38:56 2020. a large part of the negative partisanship drive is Trump's lack of decorumWhat "partisanship"? And what "decorum" does the left possess, really? Trump is hitting back at the left using their own tactics. Tacitly denying that the left uses them is dishonesty. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue May 26 14:21:08 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by AlM on Tue May 26 12:05:39 2020. thank you AlM for once again telling someone what they meant to say. You are truly an ASSet here. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue May 26 14:22:34 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by Joe V on Tue May 26 13:19:42 2020. so I guess you mean that everyone knows biden is an idiot so they expect him to say stupid things. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue May 26 14:27:49 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by AlM on Tue May 26 12:43:52 2020. #LOL@AlMa |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue May 26 14:31:07 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by Joe V on Tue May 26 12:51:30 2020. that would more accurately referred to as a "chad-hanger". |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue May 26 17:54:37 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by Train Dude on Tue May 26 14:22:34 2020. No and No. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue May 26 18:30:10 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 26 13:10:00 2020. The video clip of Biden debating Paul Ryan is circulating right wing and progressive twitter as evidence of Biden's mental decline - he's excellent in that video and it is noticeably different from his current demeanor. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue May 26 18:36:09 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue May 26 18:30:10 2020. So Biden has had mental decline in the past 8 years. How does this pertain to the election? He's not running against a mentally nimble Ted Cruz, you know. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue May 26 18:42:00 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue May 26 18:30:10 2020. I think that the clip circulating around the internet today, where biden insists that in a debate he'll "beat Biden." says much about Joe Biden's mental state. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue May 26 18:52:25 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by AlM on Tue May 26 18:36:09 2020. Because if people see they're about to choose between selecting a schoolyard bully or someone who rambles incoherently to go up against America's enemies on the world stage, the bully suddenly looks a lot better.As Biden debates Trump, people (consciously or not) will picture him up against America's enemies on the world stage, because Trump is the closest thing to a true adversary he will face during this election season. |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue May 26 18:52:46 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue May 26 18:30:10 2020. His demeanor was just fine with Dana Bash interview today. |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue May 26 18:59:41 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue May 26 18:52:25 2020. Except Biden does not usually ramble incoherently.Trump is losing seniors not only because of his disinterest in focus on Covid-19, but because he is making much of Biden's incoherence, which the older seniors also find offensive. When unemployment is 25% and 200,000 are dead by October, people are looking for sanity over the current 73 year old 5 year old who doesn't give a shit. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue May 26 19:13:24 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by Joe V on Tue May 26 18:52:46 2020. I just watched it. Biden is pretty good in it, though it's a friendly interview you can tell it's been edited (they cut off a few of his answers). (Link for anyone else who wants to see it: https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/05/26/joe-biden-bash-intv-tsr-vpx.cnn)Even so, a few nitpicks: -he tells a story from his youth about people walking around with a ball in their hand but didn't like the hit very much? Total non-sequitur that didn't have an actual point. -Biden picked the wrong argument about Trump not wearing a mask: the purpose of the mask is to prevent the wearer from infecting others. Trump is tested literally every day for the virus, so Biden's argument against Trump not wearing a mask because he might get within 12 feet of other people doesn't apply. A good argument for Trump wearing a mask is that as a leader he needs to set an example. Biden almost gets there, but gets lost in the explanation. -Biden also ignores Dana when she points out the NAACP called him out for claiming they have endorsed him (they don't endorse anyone). My complaint here is with Dana for not pointing out that he ignored that part of the question (but props for asking it). |
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Posted by AlM on Tue May 26 19:19:37 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue May 26 18:52:25 2020. But the bully has had similar cognitive decline in the past 8 years. What is the difference? Trump won't look good in the debates either. |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue May 26 19:27:28 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue May 26 19:13:24 2020. Most interviewees ignore parts of questions, or give one answer, not necessarily the most important one, or answer the question they did not get. That is not a sign of dementia.Testing everyday is still a snapshot in time. Trump never should have gone near WWII vets who are well into their 90's without one. If nothing else, he might have scared then. That is another thing Biden should have brought up. But again, not everything one can think of later can be said on the spot at the time. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue May 26 19:38:16 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by AlM on Tue May 26 12:43:52 2020. Bribery was not in the articles of impeachment, clearly not even the House thought they had enough evidence.The House was free to wait for the courts to settle the matter of executive privilege. They wanted to rush through so that Nancy could get her commemorative pen order in before the end of the year. |
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