|
|
| Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s) (1731553) | |
 |
|
| Home > OTChat | |
[ Post a New Response | Return to the Index ]
|
Page 5 of 11 |
||
|
| (1732209) | |
Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s) |
|
|
Posted by AlM on Mon May 25 08:44:36 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun May 24 21:00:00 2020. But you're still derogating a whole group of people, just like you claim Joe did. |
|
|
| (1732211) | |
Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s) |
|
|
Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 25 08:47:19 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Train Dude on Mon May 25 08:44:02 2020. One outlier, and one false example. You’re one to talk about reality. |
|
|
| (1732215) | |
Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s) |
|
|
Posted by AlM on Mon May 25 08:49:51 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 25 08:39:53 2020. I partially agree. However:1. The courts are resisting some of his impulses. 2. He's not as competent as Orban. |
|
|
| (1732216) | |
Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s) |
|
|
Posted by Train Dude on Mon May 25 08:50:25 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 25 08:42:54 2020. Really? When was the last time that a presidential candidate said that he would look to choose s black woman as a running mate? Even Barack Obama chose Joe biden and did not base his choice on race or sex or even someone who would outshine him. |
|
|
| (1732218) | |
Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s) |
|
|
Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 25 08:52:37 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by AlM on Mon May 25 08:49:51 2020. But I think he actually likes it the way it is. The thing about taking more power is that it runs up against the Ben Parker axiom, and if there’s anything Trump doesn’t want, it’s responsibility; he’s lived a life free of consequences. |
|
|
| (1732220) | |
Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s) |
|
|
Posted by AlM on Mon May 25 08:54:05 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 25 08:52:37 2020. Well, I hope you are right, because if he wins another term we get to find out. |
|
|
| (1732221) | |
Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s) |
|
|
Posted by Train Dude on Mon May 25 08:54:56 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Train Dude on Mon May 25 08:44:02 2020. One outlier? Jeffrey Epstein? Harvey Weinstein? John Conyers? That is the reality of the modern Democrat party |
|
|
| (1732222) | |
Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s) |
|
|
Posted by Joe V on Mon May 25 08:55:04 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun May 24 21:00:00 2020. If you think running Indiana is anything like running NY, NJ, CT - you are the one who is very NY-centric. |
|
|
| (1732224) | |
Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s) |
|
|
Posted by Joe V on Mon May 25 08:57:44 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Train Dude on Mon May 25 08:54:56 2020. As FOX news would tell you.How about Rep. Steven King of Iowa stereotypes the GOP ? |
|
|
| (1732226) | |
Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s) |
|
|
Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 25 09:01:40 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Train Dude on Mon May 25 08:50:25 2020. When did Biden specifically say he’d choose a black woman? You have been using that false premise this whole thread. |
|
|
| (1732229) | |
Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s) |
|
|
Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 25 09:09:10 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Train Dude on Mon May 25 08:54:56 2020. Epstein is not a political figure; Trump has been on his island too. Nor is Weinstein.For every Conyers I can name a right wing lech. |
|
|
| (1732230) | |
Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s) |
|
|
Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 25 09:09:41 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Train Dude on Mon May 25 08:54:56 2020. And I hardly even noticed the blatant whataboutism. |
|
|
| (1732231) | |
Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s) |
|
|
Posted by mtk52983 on Mon May 25 09:48:06 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Train Dude on Mon May 25 08:50:25 2020. If a black woman is the most qualified then I would hope Biden takes the black woman. Among the Democrats, I do not see any black women who merit being on a short list, much less being the nominee. There are a number of women who merit further investigation as I have listed on OTChat. |
|
|
| (1732232) | |
Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s) |
|
|
Posted by AlM on Mon May 25 09:54:35 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by mtk52983 on Mon May 25 09:48:06 2020. Kamala Harris is most definitely qualified. You just don't like her. |
|
|
| (1732233) | |
Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s) |
|
|
Posted by Mitch45 on Mon May 25 10:04:07 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Joe V on Sun May 24 07:10:54 2020. Nobody ever heard of James Stockdale either, until Ross Perot picked him. |
|
|
| (1732235) | |
Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s) |
|
|
Posted by Olog-hai on Mon May 25 10:08:10 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Train Dude on Mon May 25 08:54:56 2020. Probably of the old Democratic Party too. |
|
|
| (1732236) | |
Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s) |
|
|
Posted by AlM on Mon May 25 10:09:36 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Mitch45 on Mon May 25 10:04:07 2020. Perot was the star of the ticket in that case.With Biden, it is very legitimate to ask, what if you die or get disabled during your term? Therefore the VP choice is far more important. |
|
|
| (1732238) | |
Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s) |
|
|
Posted by mtk52983 on Mon May 25 10:12:36 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by AlM on Mon May 25 09:54:35 2020. If by qualified you mean years of experience holding elected office, then she is qualified. I just find her to be too much of a panderer who will say what she thinks needs to be said in order to win. That is not what I am looking for in a VP. |
|
|
| (1732240) | |
Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s) |
|
|
Posted by AlM on Mon May 25 10:17:12 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by mtk52983 on Mon May 25 10:12:36 2020. I just find her to be too much of a panderer who will say what she thinks needs to be said in order to win.That is not what is usually meant by "qualified." She can do the job. You just don't want her, which is fine. There are plenty of qualified people I don't want to see as (vice) president either. Like Mike Pence. Trump is a panderer too. Yet you seem willing to consider voting for him. It's just that he panders in some directions you like more than the directions in which Harris panders. |
|
|
| (1732251) | |
Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s) |
|
|
Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon May 25 10:47:15 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 24 21:05:40 2020. You're not alone. This is, for the most part, why they elected Trump. |
|
|
| (1732255) | |
Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s) |
|
|
Posted by Olog-hai on Mon May 25 10:50:17 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 24 21:05:40 2020. They’re disproportionately vaunted. . . said every tyrant ever. If there's a famine, you'll wish there were more of them. |
|
|
| (1732258) | |
Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s) |
|
|
Posted by Olog-hai on Mon May 25 10:51:06 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon May 25 10:47:15 2020. How the blazes are rural people "disproportionately vaunted"??? |
|
|
| (1732262) | |
Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s) |
|
|
Posted by Joe V on Mon May 25 10:56:14 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 25 09:01:40 2020. Elizabeth is still in the running. |
|
|
| (1732267) | |
Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s) |
|
|
Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 25 11:04:45 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Olog-hai on Mon May 25 10:50:17 2020. No, I wouldn’t. Famines are all political failures, not environmental. The vast majority of people who have ever died of starvation did because they were forced to starve by communists. |
|
|
| (1732269) | |
Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s) |
|
|
Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 25 11:05:46 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon May 25 10:47:15 2020. The rural people have been voting Republican for decades. Trump won by flipping enough of the rust belt. |
|
|
| (1732270) | |
Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s) |
|
|
Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 25 11:06:18 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Olog-hai on Mon May 25 10:51:06 2020. The Senate and the Electoral Clown College. |
|
|
| (1732271) | |
Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s) |
|
|
Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon May 25 11:07:04 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Olog-hai on Mon May 25 10:51:06 2020. I was referring to Spidey's statement of talking down to rural people, not the second part. |
|
|
| (1732272) | |
Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s) |
|
|
Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 25 11:08:00 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Joe V on Mon May 25 10:56:14 2020. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz |
|
|
| (1732273) | |
Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s) |
|
|
Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon May 25 11:08:41 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 25 11:05:46 2020. Yes but they elected Trump in the Republican primaries. They had a choice between a few standard-issue boring Republicans, and a bull that would charge through the ivory tower of the political elite, wrecking everything they hold dear, and picked the bull. |
|
|
| (1732277) | |
Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s) |
|
|
Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 25 11:12:19 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon May 25 11:07:04 2020. I responded incorrectly. I didn’t intend to say I wanted to talk down to rural people (i.e. treat them as inferior; they’re not), I meant to say that I wanted to put them in their place (politically). Although your response would likely be the same. |
|
|
| (1732278) | |
Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s) |
|
|
Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 25 11:14:16 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon May 25 11:08:41 2020. See, this is why I hate them. They hate the very system that gives them more power than they deserve.Unless you’re wrong. |
|
|
| (1732287) | |
Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s) |
|
|
Posted by Olog-hai on Mon May 25 11:24:24 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon May 25 11:07:04 2020. You agree that they should be talked down to? |
|
|
| (1732289) | |
Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s) |
|
|
Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon May 25 11:27:36 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 25 11:14:16 2020. The added power is the electoral college, Trump isn't touching that. As far as the less obvious benefits from corruption, defense contracts, etc, at worst you could say it's foolish idealism on par with the socialists. They don't notice or care how much the corruption or military spending or inequality benefits them, just that it's "wrong" and must be corrected. |
|
|
| (1732300) | |
Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s) |
|
|
Posted by Olog-hai on Mon May 25 11:40:48 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon May 25 11:27:36 2020. The electoral college is not "added power"; it's a check against tyranny of the majority. |
|
|
| (1732304) | |
Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s) |
|
|
Posted by Joe V on Mon May 25 11:51:55 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Olog-hai on Mon May 25 11:40:48 2020. Now we have tyranny of the minority. Hillary won by 3%. |
|
|
| (1732305) | |
Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s) |
|
|
Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon May 25 11:53:59 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Olog-hai on Mon May 25 11:24:24 2020. Where did I say I agreed with it? |
|
|
| (1732311) | |
Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s) |
|
|
Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 25 12:15:53 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon May 25 11:53:59 2020. Olog-hai is not of sound mind. |
|
|
| (1732312) | |
Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s) |
|
|
Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 25 12:16:59 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Olog-hai on Mon May 25 11:40:48 2020. The electoral college perpetuates the tyranny of the minority that you prefer. |
|
|
| (1732315) | |
Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s) |
|
|
Posted by Olog-hai on Mon May 25 12:23:19 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon May 25 11:53:59 2020. By saying "(y)ou're not alone". Yes, that phrase implies the first person. |
|
|
| (1732318) | |
Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s) |
|
|
Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 25 12:37:05 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Olog-hai on Mon May 25 12:23:19 2020. It does, but the rest of the sentence made it clear he was referring to the third person. |
|
|
| (1732337) | |
Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s) |
|
|
Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon May 25 13:47:15 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 25 08:42:54 2020. Sure, geography, beliefs, philosophy, whatever.....but skin color? That's dividing people into groups, which the Democrats are masters of |
|
|
| (1732338) | |
Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s) |
|
|
Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon May 25 13:50:37 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 25 09:01:40 2020. He can pick anyone but a white dude. |
|
|
| (1732339) | |
Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s) |
|
|
Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon May 25 13:51:46 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by mtk52983 on Mon May 25 10:12:36 2020. Sort of like Biden saying you're not black unless you vote for him |
|
|
| (1732343) | |
Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s) |
|
|
Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 25 14:05:18 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon May 25 13:47:15 2020. All of those things divide people into groups. And this is some masterful projection. Not by you, but by the right wing, who claim that choosing a black candidate despite the fact that there has never been a black VP (although there was a black president) as being more racist than the fact that there hasn’t been a black VP this many centuries after the abolition of slavery. |
|
|
| (1732344) | |
Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s) |
|
|
Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 25 14:06:13 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon May 25 13:50:37 2020. As opposed to the previous standard of picking only white dudes. |
|
|
| (1732346) | |
Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s) |
|
|
Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon May 25 14:15:23 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 25 14:06:13 2020. So the sins of those before I mean you can discriminate nowI see |
|
|
| (1732347) | |
Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s) |
|
|
Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon May 25 14:17:14 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 25 14:05:18 2020. If they are the most qualified what difference does it make.there's no problem of dividing people into groups based on beliefs, beliefs are chosen Basing it on who a person actually is it's completely different and the Democrats are the worst offenders of it all while smiling and say they are against that kind of thing |
|
|
| (1732348) | |
Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s) |
|
|
Posted by AlM on Mon May 25 14:21:20 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon May 25 14:17:14 2020. If they are the most qualified what difference does it make.Getting rid of a president who is destroying our political system is more important than getting the absolute best qualified candidate for VP. |
|
|
| (1732349) | |
Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s) |
|
|
Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 25 14:41:26 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon May 25 14:15:23 2020. You just use “discrimination” as a cudgel. Discrimination is good. The Republicans should have been more discriminating. |
|
|
| (1732350) | |
Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s) |
|
|
Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 25 14:42:37 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by AlM on Mon May 25 14:21:20 2020. Not only that, but the idea that the VP should only be the “most qualified” is ridiculous. |
|
|
|
Page 5 of 11 |
||