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Posted by Dave on Thu Mar 26 16:44:29 2020 Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME) at the University of Washington's School of Medicine |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Mar 26 19:14:46 2020, in response to US virus deaths may top 80,000 despite confinement: study, posted by Dave on Thu Mar 26 16:44:29 2020. The best possible outcome happens when the current measures are maintained until 1June. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Mar 26 19:23:05 2020, in response to Re: US virus deaths may top 80,000 despite confinement: study, posted by bingbong on Thu Mar 26 19:14:46 2020. Ah, relying on an editorial for your facts. Now that makes sense. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Mar 26 19:29:42 2020, in response to Re: US virus deaths may top 80,000 despite confinement: study, posted by bingbong on Thu Mar 26 19:14:46 2020. What current measures? A few stores are closed, some people don't have dicks for managers and are working for home. Churches are closed. Everything else is life as normal and the numbers in flyover country are skyrocketing everyday.At our current measures, we're going to rename this thread: "Italy, you are no longer the saddest story on earth". |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Mar 26 19:36:31 2020, in response to US virus deaths may top 80,000 despite confinement: study, posted by Dave on Thu Mar 26 16:44:29 2020. The one little item of good news is that over 100,000 tests were done yesterday, and over 500K cumulatively. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Mar 26 19:40:49 2020, in response to Re: US virus deaths may top 80,000 despite confinement: study, posted by AlM on Thu Mar 26 19:36:31 2020. According to Kathy Griffin she wasn't tested. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Mar 26 19:46:18 2020, in response to Re: US virus deaths may top 80,000 despite confinement: study, posted by AlM on Thu Mar 26 19:36:31 2020. Which is utterly meaningless in the United StatesAs long as employees die at the costco headquarters and they stay open. Or people get sick at Spectrum internet. Or constructions workers still show up for work when their household is sick. and so on. Testing only works if you isolate the positives! |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Mar 26 19:47:43 2020, in response to Re: US virus deaths may top 80,000 despite confinement: study, posted by Train Dude on Thu Mar 26 19:23:05 2020. lol |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Mar 26 19:49:26 2020, in response to Re: US virus deaths may top 80,000 despite confinement: study, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Mar 26 19:29:42 2020. Maybe where you are. It's everything's closed, save for supermarkets and pharmacies and Michaels, which is a lifeline for parents as they can find stuff for the kids to do there. There's 166 cases in my county, it's been increasing but rather slowly. There's signs all over that social distancing is helping flatten the curve. We must keep this going until June, or the deaths will spike beyond possible control. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Mar 26 19:56:20 2020, in response to Re: US virus deaths may top 80,000 despite confinement: study, posted by bingbong on Thu Mar 26 19:49:26 2020. I got about 200. In our sprawl, one of the two big cities started a curfew yesterday, but you can still go around the park and public spaces. The other one said no, they're not going to do that, along with the other municipalities, no.One mall closed Monday. Bed bath beyond and world market closed nationally. County said restaurants closed sure, but i ssee cars on the road. I hear stupid comments. One example, since I live in the sunbelt everything from Virginia to California has parking lots in front of your dwellings. Monday I saw one empty space. Everyday its been building, and I today 25 empty parking spaces at one count. With the usual traffic. I'm hearing this is the case all over, from Georgia to kansas city. I also heard that during the senior hour yestrday, there were thongs of old people packed in close proximity. I watched an old guy yesterday across the street, he came home with 3 little plastic bags of a few items only. He was commenting to someone else passing him and they were acting like it was a joke. It's bullcrap. You're inconvenienced if you like going out to the bar. Or like religion or school. Otherwise...it's bullcrap. |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Thu Mar 26 20:34:13 2020, in response to Re: US virus deaths may top 80,000 despite confinement: study, posted by AlM on Thu Mar 26 19:36:31 2020. one little item of good news is that over 100,000 tests were done yesterday, and over 500K cumulatively.I would inquire about the type of tests that were given in the 500K and 100K figures. There are 84K confirmed cases in the US as of this writing. The "confirmed" means each case was confirmed by a specific corona virus test. Given the restrictions on testing, that would indicate an positive rate of 17%. That's way too low. Perhaps, the "tests" are referring to some ad hoc "surveillance tests" mentioned near the end of the linked article. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Mar 26 21:00:24 2020, in response to Re: US virus deaths may top 80,000 despite confinement: study, posted by bingbong on Thu Mar 26 19:14:46 2020. But the opinion piece makes sense |
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Posted by Dave on Thu Mar 26 21:55:05 2020, in response to Re: US virus deaths may top 80,000 despite confinement: study, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Mar 26 19:40:49 2020. Who cares? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Mar 26 22:16:35 2020, in response to US virus deaths may top 80,000 despite confinement: study, posted by Dave on Thu Mar 26 16:44:29 2020. Well, there goes their reputation. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Mar 27 00:00:17 2020, in response to US virus deaths may top 80,000 despite confinement: study, posted by Dave on Thu Mar 26 16:44:29 2020. "MAY" "COULD" "MIGHT"Three powerful words from the TDS crew. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Mar 27 00:00:31 2020, in response to US virus deaths may top 80,000 despite confinement: study, posted by Dave on Thu Mar 26 16:44:29 2020. "MAY" "COULD" "MIGHT"Three powerful words from the TDS crew. |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Fri Mar 27 00:20:49 2020, in response to Re: US virus deaths may top 80,000 despite confinement: study, posted by Dave on Thu Mar 26 21:55:05 2020. IAWTP |
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Posted by ntrainride on Fri Mar 27 00:49:19 2020, in response to Re: US virus deaths may top 80,000 despite confinement: study, posted by bingbong on Thu Mar 26 19:49:26 2020. all this is the biggest sexual thrill you've ever been able to achieve in your entire wasted life, isn't it?damn coward. |
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Posted by jimmymc25 on Fri Mar 27 01:20:57 2020, in response to Re: US virus deaths may top 80,000 despite confinement: study, posted by ntrainride on Fri Mar 27 00:49:19 2020. No you're the damm coward you pussy |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Mar 27 01:40:42 2020, in response to Re: US virus deaths may top 80,000 despite confinement: study, posted by Stephen Bauman on Thu Mar 26 20:34:13 2020. I got this from Nate Silver. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Mar 27 11:44:49 2020, in response to Re: US virus deaths may top 80,000 despite confinement: study, posted by bingbong on Thu Mar 26 19:49:26 2020. Shut up |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Mar 27 11:45:36 2020, in response to Re: US virus deaths may top 80,000 despite confinement: study, posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Mar 27 11:44:49 2020. What was wrong with her post? |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Mar 27 12:08:14 2020, in response to Re: US virus deaths may top 80,000 despite confinement: study, posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Mar 27 11:44:49 2020. Sorry, that was meant as a reply to ntrainride. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Mar 27 12:08:41 2020, in response to Re: US virus deaths may top 80,000 despite confinement: study, posted by AlM on Fri Mar 27 11:45:36 2020. Sorry, that was meant as a reply to ntrainride's reply to her. |
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Posted by bingbong on Fri Mar 27 12:38:49 2020, in response to Re: US virus deaths may top 80,000 despite confinement: study, posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Mar 27 11:44:49 2020. No. People need the facts. They don’t need hunches, wishes and dreams. The facts call for full social distancing through May. Otherwise, we'll need way more than those 30,000 ventilators AND we won’t have them. Which means a staggering death rate.Had this been handled in a timely manner,we’d be fully geared up and able to test widely as well as handle the sickened. We have known about this since December. It was identified in January. There’s no excuse. Accept it, and get on with your part to keep the deaths to a minimum. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Mar 27 12:48:12 2020, in response to Re: US virus deaths may top 80,000 despite confinement: study, posted by bingbong on Fri Mar 27 12:38:49 2020. Sorry, that "shut up" wasn't meant for you. It was for ntrainride's response to your post. I guess I didn't "Before posting.. think twice!"!!! |
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Posted by bingbong on Fri Mar 27 13:25:00 2020, in response to Re: US virus deaths may top 80,000 despite confinement: study, posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Mar 27 12:48:12 2020. Oops. That’s okay, we all lose track of threads now and then. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Mar 27 13:31:14 2020, in response to Re: US virus deaths may top 80,000 despite confinement: study, posted by bingbong on Fri Mar 27 12:38:49 2020. Why May? What "facts" do you have that makes June the "all clear" month? |
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Posted by bingbong on Fri Mar 27 13:51:12 2020, in response to Re: US virus deaths may top 80,000 despite confinement: study, posted by Train Dude on Fri Mar 27 13:31:14 2020. It's in another thread. It depends on keeping up the stricter social distancing we're (some of us, anyway) doing until then. Relaxing it WILL result in more deaths. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Mar 27 13:55:43 2020, in response to Re: US virus deaths may top 80,000 despite confinement: study, posted by bingbong on Fri Mar 27 13:51:12 2020. Which thread? Link? "Relaxing it WILL result in more deaths." Wouldn't it be more accurate to say that Relaxing it COULD result in more deaths.? |
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Posted by Joe V on Fri Mar 27 15:50:14 2020, in response to Re: US virus deaths may top 80,000 despite confinement: study, posted by bingbong on Fri Mar 27 13:51:12 2020. It is mathematical modeling about flattening & Widening the curve.The worst and best case scenarios of the 2 curves are equal in volume. The best case scenario can be dealt with without breaking the medical supply system. Some borderline need/don't need ventilator cases might be able to make do with CPAP machines, or several CPAP machines can be rigged to one ventilator. Sanjay Gupta was talking about that yesterday morning, as well as the antibody serum transfusions from recoveries. |
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