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Re: Hillary Should Have Been President

Posted by DAnD124 on Sun Mar 22 01:07:50 2020, in response to Re: Hillary Should Have Been President, posted by AlM on Sat Mar 21 19:33:51 2020.

Given the reaction of every other North Atlantic government I think that's unlikely.

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Re: Hillary Should Have Been President

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 22 01:26:29 2020, in response to Re: Hillary Should Have Been President, posted by AlM on Sat Mar 21 20:59:41 2020.

Lol. If you say so. Nobody would have predicted what is happening.

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Re: Hillary Should Have Been President

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 22 02:06:06 2020, in response to Re: Hillary Should Have Been President, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Mar 21 21:10:02 2020.

Al keeps repeating this leftist in accuracy over and over as fact

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Re: Hillary Should Have Been President

Posted by AlM on Sun Mar 22 03:22:09 2020, in response to Re: Hillary Should Have Been President, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 22 01:26:29 2020.

Experts have been predicting the possibility for years.


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Re: Hillary Should Have Been President

Posted by TerrApin Station on Sun Mar 22 03:46:04 2020, in response to Hillary Should Have Been President, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Mar 21 19:22:24 2020.

You're a sad, sad man.

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Re: Hillary Should Have Been President

Posted by AlM on Sun Mar 22 03:53:29 2020, in response to Re: Hillary Should Have Been President, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Mar 21 21:25:37 2020.

Snopes

It’s thus true that the Trump administration axed the executive branch team responsible for coordinating a response to a pandemic and did not replace it...





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Re: Hillary Should Have Been President

Posted by AlM on Sun Mar 22 03:53:51 2020, in response to Re: Hillary Should Have Been President, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 22 02:06:06 2020.

Snopes agrees with me.



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Re: Hillary Should Have Been President

Posted by 3-9 on Sun Mar 22 04:06:31 2020, in response to Re: Hillary Should Have Been President, posted by DAnD124 on Sun Mar 22 01:07:50 2020.

I'm not so sure. Like AlM said, we probably would not have been at 100%, but I don't we would've been playing catch-up 3 months later. And we definitely would've had more mature responses than berating a reporter for asking what the president wanted to tell the American people.

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Re: Hillary Should Have Been President

Posted by 3-9 on Sun Mar 22 04:16:58 2020, in response to Re: Hillary Should Have Been President, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Mar 21 22:16:14 2020.

While they didn't get rid of the biological experts, they did get rid of the chief administrator and half the staff. Unless they were doing serious featherbedding, of which there is no evidence, that's going to impact the effectiveness of any organization with such huge responsibilities.

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Re: Hillary Should Have Been President

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Mar 22 07:07:41 2020, in response to Re: Hillary Should Have Been President, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Mar 21 22:16:14 2020.

That doesn't make the newer article accurate, nor was it written by the person in charge of the unit.

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Re: Hillary Should Have Been President

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 22 07:21:02 2020, in response to Re: Hillary Should Have Been President, posted by AlM on Sun Mar 22 03:53:51 2020.

Wonderful for you. Many other news sources do not

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Re: Hillary Should Have Been President

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 22 07:22:20 2020, in response to Re: Hillary Should Have Been President, posted by AlM on Sun Mar 22 03:22:09 2020.

That's also wonderful, but no one could have predicted this. And the issues we are facing

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Re: Hillary Should Have Been President

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 22 07:22:49 2020, in response to Re: Hillary Should Have Been President, posted by TerrApin Station on Sun Mar 22 03:46:04 2020.

Iawtp

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Re: Hillary Should Have Been President

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 22 07:26:11 2020, in response to Re: Hillary Should Have Been President, posted by 3-9 on Sun Mar 22 04:06:31 2020.

Maybe if we didn't have reporters making up things and asking questions to the president like "someone" called it Kung flu, where he had to ask who and where, and the response was I don't know, we also would have more productive envounters

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Re: Hillary Should Have Been President

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 22 07:27:34 2020, in response to Re: Hillary Should Have Been President, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Mar 22 07:07:41 2020.

It also doesn't support your's and al's attempt either

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Re: Hillary Should Have Been President

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 22 07:30:09 2020, in response to Re: Hillary Should Have Been President, posted by Elkeeper on Sat Mar 21 23:29:08 2020.

No not at all. Most see this horror for what it is

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Re: Hillary Should Have Been President

Posted by AlM on Sun Mar 22 08:47:31 2020, in response to Re: Hillary Should Have Been President, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 22 07:21:02 2020.

Snopes is a fact checker, not a news source.

Henry's first rebuttal was an opinion column, not a news column, by a Trump-appointed official who has a stake in claiming that the Trump Administration did everything wonderfully.



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Re: Hillary Should Have Been President

Posted by AlM on Sun Mar 22 08:48:31 2020, in response to Re: Hillary Should Have Been President, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Mar 21 22:16:14 2020.

You posted an opinion piece.

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Re: Hillary Should Have Been President

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Mar 22 08:48:55 2020, in response to Re: Hillary Should Have Been President, posted by AlM on Sun Mar 22 03:53:51 2020.

So much for snopes objectivity

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Re: Hillary Should Have Been President

Posted by AlM on Sun Mar 22 09:06:50 2020, in response to Re: Hillary Should Have Been President, posted by DAnD124 on Sun Mar 22 01:07:50 2020.

Why could the US not have handled the situation half as well as South Korea?



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Re: Hillary Should Have Been President

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Mar 22 09:12:22 2020, in response to Hillary Should Have Been President, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Mar 21 19:22:24 2020.

Clarity evades you. While you are critical and skeptical of our chosen leader, there are facts that escape you and assumptions that betray you.

Fact:
While we have sadly had 348 total deaths from this disease, other populations suffer far greater losses from it. Italy, with a population of roughly 20% of that of our own, had 793 Corona related deaths just on Friday.

Assumptions:
You are assuming that hillary clinton would be cool under fire and not freeze like deer in the headlights. That she would not toss up her hands during the current crisis and say"at this point, what difference does it make?"
* To closing our borders?
* To immediately ordering testing of other anti viral drugs?
* To partnering with private industry for expedited production of critical items?
* To allowing the critically ill to opt for unproven cures and monitor the results under CDC guidance?
* To immediately declare a national emergency instead of waiting 6 months?
* To show calm leadership in the face of the media causing panic?

Tell us what you think hillary would have done for the country?

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Re: Hillary Should Have Been President

Posted by DAnD124 on Sun Mar 22 09:29:45 2020, in response to Re: Hillary Should Have Been President, posted by AlM on Sun Mar 22 09:06:50 2020.

Because SARS didn't hit us in 2002.

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Re: Hillary Should Have Been President

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 22 09:30:35 2020, in response to Re: Hillary Should Have Been President, posted by Train Dude on Sun Mar 22 08:48:55 2020.

Yes

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Re: Hillary Should Have Been President

Posted by AlM on Sun Mar 22 09:31:48 2020, in response to Re: Hillary Should Have Been President, posted by DAnD124 on Sun Mar 22 09:29:45 2020.

???

It's not possible to learn from other people's experience?



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Re: Hillary Should Have Been President

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 22 09:32:01 2020, in response to Re: Hillary Should Have Been President, posted by AlM on Sun Mar 22 08:48:31 2020.

It never ends with you! And you ignored jayzees post which even says "perspective". Unbelievable Al.

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Re: Hillary Should Have Been President

Posted by AlM on Sun Mar 22 09:32:59 2020, in response to Re: Hillary Should Have Been President, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 22 09:30:35 2020.

LOL. Snopes vs. an opinion piece by a Trump appointee with a vested interest in the story, and of course you believe the Trump appointee completely.



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Re: Hillary Should Have Been President

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 22 09:33:39 2020, in response to Re: Hillary Should Have Been President, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 22 07:26:11 2020.

What the hell was wrong with that NBC reporter’s question? What is wrong with the president trying to assuage Americans’ fears? That reporter later asked the same question of Pence, who gave him a non-wannabe-dictator answer.

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Re: Hillary Should Have Been President

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 22 09:34:55 2020, in response to Re: Hillary Should Have Been President, posted by AlM on Sun Mar 22 09:06:50 2020.

Size? I mean really

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Re: Hillary Should Have Been President

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 22 09:36:12 2020, in response to Re: Hillary Should Have Been President, posted by Train Dude on Sun Mar 22 09:12:22 2020.

It's insane that they are presenting assumptions as facts. Insane

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Re: Hillary Should Have Been President

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 22 09:36:15 2020, in response to Re: Hillary Should Have Been President, posted by AlM on Sun Mar 22 09:32:59 2020.

Because it’s our duty to believe our leaders and their loyal servants.

HAIL, VICTORY!

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Re: Hillary Should Have Been President

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 22 09:38:27 2020, in response to Re: Hillary Should Have Been President, posted by AlM on Sun Mar 22 09:32:59 2020.

Yet you didn't attack jayzees opinion piece

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Re: Hillary Should Have Been President

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 22 09:39:48 2020, in response to Re: Hillary Should Have Been President, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 22 09:33:39 2020.

Did we come up with the supposed person?
Assholes doing that SHIT instead of real issues we are facing.

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Re: Hillary Should Have Been President

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 22 09:43:20 2020, in response to Re: Hillary Should Have Been President, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 22 07:30:09 2020.

The horror of a Trump presidency and the horror of the Coronavirus are too different things.

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Re: Hillary Should Have Been President

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 22 09:44:15 2020, in response to Re: Hillary Should Have Been President, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 22 09:36:15 2020.

How is making up that someone said "king flu" (which we still haven't had where she got this from) productive?

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Re: Hillary Should Have Been President

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 22 09:44:39 2020, in response to Re: Hillary Should Have Been President, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 22 09:39:48 2020.

What supposed person?

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Re: Hillary Should Have Been President

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 22 09:44:58 2020, in response to Re: Hillary Should Have Been President, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 22 09:34:55 2020.

LOL!

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Re: Hillary Should Have Been President

Posted by DAnD124 on Sun Mar 22 09:54:02 2020, in response to Re: Hillary Should Have Been President, posted by AlM on Sun Mar 22 03:53:51 2020.

Snopes the website the fact checks satire?

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Re: Hillary Should Have Been President

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 22 09:55:35 2020, in response to Re: Hillary Should Have Been President, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 22 09:44:15 2020.

Why are you asking me? I don’t give a fuck.

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Re: Hillary Should Have Been President

Posted by DAnD124 on Sun Mar 22 10:01:32 2020, in response to Re: Hillary Should Have Been President, posted by AlM on Sun Mar 22 09:31:48 2020.

Why do you think the no European country has handled this well? Why are you so confident that Hillary would have handled this like South Korea rather than the left wing governments in Spain and Italy?

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Re: Hillary Should Have Been President

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Mar 22 10:10:45 2020, in response to Re: Hillary Should Have Been President, posted by AlM on Sun Mar 22 09:06:50 2020.

Totally ignorant question. South Korea is roughly 1/9th the size of the US with roughly 1/7th the population. It's also a far more homogeneous and regimented society. It looks like even they didn't need your advice, al.

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Re: Hillary Should Have Been President

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Mar 22 10:11:28 2020, in response to Re: Hillary Should Have Been President, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 22 07:27:34 2020.

In other words, because the person in charge wrote something that doesn't fit your narrative, it's false. I see...

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Re: Hillary Should Have Been President

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Mar 22 10:12:36 2020, in response to Re: Hillary Should Have Been President, posted by DAnD124 on Sun Mar 22 10:01:32 2020.

Al is omnipotent

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Re: Hillary Should Have Been President

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Mar 22 10:12:45 2020, in response to Re: Hillary Should Have Been President, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 22 07:22:20 2020.

It's called "civil preparedness". This is a real thing that Trump considers unnecessary.

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Re: Hillary Should Have Been President

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 22 10:22:20 2020, in response to Re: Hillary Should Have Been President, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 22 09:55:35 2020.

Because you are insinuating I'm just siding with Trump which is not true. The reporter engagement was absurd.
BTW I didn't mean king flu, autocorrect didn't like Kung flu


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Re: Hillary Should Have Been President

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Mar 22 10:23:04 2020, in response to Re: Hillary Should Have Been President, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Mar 22 10:12:45 2020.

Too bad Chick-Fil-A is closed on Sunday.

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Re: Hillary Should Have Been President

Posted by AlM on Sun Mar 22 10:24:16 2020, in response to Re: Hillary Should Have Been President, posted by DAnD124 on Sun Mar 22 10:01:32 2020.

I expressed no confidence one way or the other. You expressed a fair degree of confidence (use of the word "unlikely") that the epidemiologists hypothetically remaining in place wouldn't have helped much.

At a minimum, don't you think the test kit situation would be in better shape, which would allow more focused social isolation policies?




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Re: Hillary Should Have Been President

Posted by AlM on Sun Mar 22 10:32:27 2020, in response to Re: Hillary Should Have Been President, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 22 09:38:27 2020.

JayZ didn't tell me I was wrong. You and Henry did, citing very dubious sources.




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Re: Hillary Should Have Been Presidink

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 22 10:47:46 2020, in response to Re: Hillary Should Have Been President, posted by Train Dude on Sun Mar 22 08:48:55 2020.

Snopes is horrible. They threw logic down their memory hole a long time ago.

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Re: Hillary Should Have Been President

Posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Mar 22 10:49:23 2020, in response to Re: Hillary Should Have Been President, posted by Train Dude on Sun Mar 22 10:10:45 2020.

Which is also why I wouldn’t compare the US to any of those other countries at all.

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Re: Hillary Should Have Been Presidink

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 22 10:49:33 2020, in response to Re: Hillary Should Have Been President, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 22 10:22:20 2020.

autocorrect didn't like Kung flu

Looks like the left got to that already, eh? Try "moo goo gai pandemic" next.

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