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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Feb 24 10:16:58 2020, in response to Re: Flat-Earther Dies In Homemade Rocket Crash, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 24 10:14:59 2020. Thats wonderful! But in English they are not. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Feb 24 10:18:53 2020, in response to Re: Flat-Earther Dies In Homemade Rocket Crash, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Feb 24 10:15:47 2020. That's wonderful, but it's still a disorder. And after the remedy, the DISORDER is still treated, but the person was born as a man or woman. THAT is science. the person is still what they were born as, even if they changed the way they look. If treatment stops, they are also still what they originally were. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 24 10:22:07 2020, in response to Re: Flat-Earther Dies In Homemade Rocket Crash, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Feb 24 09:30:44 2020. So? |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Feb 24 10:27:55 2020, in response to Re: Flat-Earther Dies In Homemade Rocket Crash, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Feb 24 10:18:53 2020. No, once a person transitions to the other, that's the gender they are. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Feb 24 10:30:09 2020, in response to Re: Flat-Earther Dies In Homemade Rocket Crash, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Feb 24 10:27:55 2020. Yeah okay. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Feb 24 10:34:54 2020, in response to Re: Flat-Earther Dies In Homemade Rocket Crash, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Feb 24 10:27:55 2020. Can't escape what you are born as:"In September 1988, a man looking for cypress wood discovered a body in the marshy forests of Florida. The body was too decomposed to be recognizable, but police made note of what they could: a denim skirt, manicured nails, long dyed-blond hair, breast implants. A prominent forensic anthropologist noticed pitting in the pelvic bones, which he attributed to hormonal changes from childbirth. He proclaimed her a woman—a mother, in fact, who had likely given birth more than once. She became known as “Julie Doe." https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2019/12/self-taught-sleuths-trying-solve-trans-murders/603976/ |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Feb 24 10:39:08 2020, in response to Re: Flat-Earther Dies In Homemade Rocket Crash, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Feb 24 09:27:36 2020. Remember the last lines in Lola by The Kinks:"But I know what I am and I'm glad I'm a man
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Posted by ClearAspect on Mon Feb 24 10:39:52 2020, in response to Re: Flat-Earther Dies In Homemade Rocket Crash, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Feb 24 09:34:53 2020. Wow you are a piece of shit. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 24 10:45:58 2020, in response to Re: Flat-Earther Dies In Homemade Rocket Crash, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Feb 24 10:34:54 2020. So? She was apparently more a woman than anything if it took 27 years and advanced technology to figure out that she was born male. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Feb 24 10:46:03 2020, in response to Re: Flat-Earther Dies In Homemade Rocket Crash, posted by ClearAspect on Mon Feb 24 10:39:52 2020. Do you EVER disagree with another poster without name calling and insulting them?? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 24 10:49:02 2020, in response to Re: Flat-Earther Dies In Homemade Rocket Crash, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Feb 24 09:37:50 2020. Grammar is based ENTIRELY on popular convention. If the popular convention is to refer to transwomen as “she” and transmen as “he,” then that’s the proper way of addressing them whether you like it or not and regardless of biology.And if singular “they” catches on, then it becomes the proper pronoun. Just like convention created singular “you.” |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Feb 24 10:50:03 2020, in response to Re: Flat-Earther Dies In Homemade Rocket Crash, posted by ClearAspect on Mon Feb 24 10:39:52 2020. LOL. BEcause I disagree with you? I think it is YOU that are a piece of shit for not understanding there is opposing viewpoint from yours.I don't call you a piece of shit for having a different view. Although, you are the stereotypical leftist, so..... |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 24 10:52:19 2020, in response to Re: Flat-Earther Dies In Homemade Rocket Crash, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Feb 24 09:39:32 2020. No, we knew 200 years ago and 2000 years ago who a man is and who a woman is. You are changing the goal posts by saying it’s always chromosomes when it clearly wasn’t. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Feb 24 10:52:56 2020, in response to Re: Flat-Earther Dies In Homemade Rocket Crash, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 24 10:45:58 2020. yes, and what did they discover, that the body was physically a man, even if it had changed to look like a woman.Just because they didn't have the technology to determine that doesn't mean that wasn't the case then too. Your statement is like saying the "world is flat or round" (gee what are we getting back to). Just because they couldn't determine that the world was flat back then, doesn't mean that it wasn't round. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Feb 24 10:54:11 2020, in response to Re: Flat-Earther Dies In Homemade Rocket Crash, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 24 10:52:19 2020. I never said it "was always chromosomes", but that is the deciding factor. I didn't change any goalposts. Just because they couldn't see chromosomes until recently doesn't mean they weren't there. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Feb 24 10:55:13 2020, in response to Re: Flat-Earther Dies In Homemade Rocket Crash, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 24 10:49:02 2020. Grammar is based ENTIRELY on popular convention.That is an assertion up with which I cannot put. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 24 11:02:18 2020, in response to Re: Flat-Earther Dies In Homemade Rocket Crash, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Feb 24 10:54:11 2020. It's not about whether they were there or not, it's how humanity defined sex since time immemorial. And it clearly wasn't by doing a DNA test. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 24 11:02:45 2020, in response to Re: Flat-Earther Dies In Homemade Rocket Crash, posted by AlM on Mon Feb 24 10:55:13 2020. IMPEACH CHURCHILL! |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Feb 24 11:05:36 2020, in response to Re: Flat-Earther Dies In Homemade Rocket Crash, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 24 11:02:18 2020. Of course. But you can define it any way you want, but then there's science. Science is not opinion or subjective. You are all for science until it interferes with some leftist SUBJECTIVE ideal. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Mon Feb 24 11:05:41 2020, in response to Re: Flat-Earther Dies In Homemade Rocket Crash, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 24 10:14:59 2020. What about a shim? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 24 11:06:05 2020, in response to Re: Flat-Earther Dies In Homemade Rocket Crash, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Feb 24 10:16:58 2020. So now you’re basing human sex on which language is spoken? |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Mon Feb 24 11:06:38 2020, in response to Re: Flat-Earther Dies In Homemade Rocket Crash, posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Feb 24 10:46:03 2020. I think Chris insulting a bunch of people by basically claiming they suffer from a mental disorder.So you attacking me for giving my opinion calling him while giving him a pass on insulting a bunch of people? Yeah, go and defend chris. |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Mon Feb 24 11:08:53 2020, in response to Re: Flat-Earther Dies In Homemade Rocket Crash, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Feb 24 10:50:03 2020. You have without saying it...A different view which science says is wrong no matter what your opinion wishes. Youre an insecure male with an outdated thought. You're the modern day version of a person who thought gay people had a mental disorder. The history books and future generations will apply the same brush to your stone age thoughts. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Feb 24 11:08:58 2020, in response to Re: Flat-Earther Dies In Homemade Rocket Crash, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 24 11:06:05 2020. No, I didn't bring that up. Science is science. And in English there is just male and female, we don't have the gender he and she on objects like spanish, german, etc. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Feb 24 11:10:37 2020, in response to Re: Flat-Earther Dies In Homemade Rocket Crash, posted by ClearAspect on Mon Feb 24 11:06:38 2020. ????Im insulting people by claiming someone with a condition has a condition? LOL! I guess it's also insulting to claim someone unfortuinately has Schizophrenia when they have it? Or cancer if they have it? Get off your fucking high horse Chris |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 24 11:12:53 2020, in response to Re: Flat-Earther Dies In Homemade Rocket Crash, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Feb 24 11:05:36 2020. No, science describes the world as it is, not how you want it to be. It makes things more complicated, not simpler. You can legitimately say that the vast majority of women have XX chromosomes, and the vast majority of men have XY, but it's clear that there are a small number of XX men and XY women. Not to mention XXX, XYY, XXY and X.In the case of the XX men and XY women, many of their conditions are completely undiagnosed until adolescence (when they fail to go through puberty and are taken to the doctor to find out why) and some people (basically everyone before the 20th century and everyone who lives in a backward society) live their whole life completely undiagnosed. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Feb 24 11:13:17 2020, in response to Re: Flat-Earther Dies In Homemade Rocket Crash, posted by ClearAspect on Mon Feb 24 11:08:53 2020. Okay, whatever you say. If it makes you feel better, believe that.I still don't disagree, but I am not going to insult you, and I have no desire to hit my head on the wall with you as you are a small man. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 24 11:14:19 2020, in response to Re: Flat-Earther Dies In Homemade Rocket Crash, posted by ClearAspect on Mon Feb 24 11:06:38 2020. There’s a difference between insulting an undifferentiated group and an individual. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Feb 24 11:15:54 2020, in response to Re: Flat-Earther Dies In Homemade Rocket Crash, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 24 11:12:53 2020. No, science describes the world as it is, not how you want it to be.Exactly correct. That's why the current science figured out the person was a MALE. not the way the "left" wants it to be. Not to mention XXX, XYY, XXY and X..... In the case of the XX men and XY women, many of their conditions are completely undiagnosed until adolescence And they unfortunately have a condition. But apparently it's "bad" according to ClearAspect to mention they have a condition. Shhhhhhhh. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 24 11:16:11 2020, in response to Re: Flat-Earther Dies In Homemade Rocket Crash, posted by ClearAspect on Mon Feb 24 11:06:38 2020. Also, by claiming that Chris is insulting trans people by saying that they have a mental disorder, you're implying that saying that someone has a mental disorder is by itself an insult. It's not. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 24 11:21:53 2020, in response to Re: Flat-Earther Dies In Homemade Rocket Crash, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Feb 24 10:52:56 2020. So you're saying that someone born with a chromosomal disorder where they have XY chromosomes and are phenotypically female has always been a male? You should really look this up before you answer. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 24 11:23:04 2020, in response to Re: Flat-Earther Dies In Homemade Rocket Crash, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Feb 24 11:15:54 2020. But what do you consider them, male or female? |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Mon Feb 24 11:23:50 2020, in response to Re: Flat-Earther Dies In Homemade Rocket Crash, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Feb 24 11:10:37 2020. Youre insulting a bunch of people outright, youre being derogatory and dont play this name game. Youre full of shit and youve played this coy game for a long time.amazing that ntrainride has competition in the scumbag department of subchat but youre willing to bring competition. |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Mon Feb 24 11:25:06 2020, in response to Re: Flat-Earther Dies In Homemade Rocket Crash, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 24 11:16:11 2020. I completely disagree with you spider, chris likes to play coy, cause he has a history of not saying things outright but implying it. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 24 11:26:47 2020, in response to Re: Flat-Earther Dies In Homemade Rocket Crash, posted by ClearAspect on Mon Feb 24 11:25:06 2020. I don’t agree that’s the case. I agree with him on this topic, but I don’t believe it’s as simple as “chromosomes!” |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Mon Feb 24 11:26:53 2020, in response to Re: Flat-Earther Dies In Homemade Rocket Crash, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 24 11:21:53 2020. There are also many creatures throughout the world that can change sex or intersex. Biologically sex is a diverse thing.The brain is a complex organ, it is difficult to define things but you have people who want to box things in for the name of simplicity and anything that breaks that is ostracized for it. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 24 11:28:04 2020, in response to Re: Flat-Earther Dies In Homemade Rocket Crash, posted by ClearAspect on Mon Feb 24 11:26:53 2020. That’s cute, but humans don’t change sex. There are intersex people but that is different.Thanks for admitting it’s in the brain. |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Mon Feb 24 11:28:07 2020, in response to Re: Flat-Earther Dies In Homemade Rocket Crash, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 24 11:26:47 2020. Given chris’ history I beg to differ.This is the man that believes racism doesnt exist anymore unless its explicitly in writing... The man lacks the integrity to be forthcoming. |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Mon Feb 24 11:28:45 2020, in response to Re: Flat-Earther Dies In Homemade Rocket Crash, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 24 11:28:04 2020. Yes, but because its the brain a mental disorder it is not. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 24 11:29:42 2020, in response to Re: Flat-Earther Dies In Homemade Rocket Crash, posted by Train Dude on Mon Feb 24 09:28:10 2020. I'm arguing on behalf of Israeli trans people, then. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 24 11:30:32 2020, in response to Re: Flat-Earther Dies In Homemade Rocket Crash, posted by ClearAspect on Mon Feb 24 11:28:45 2020. Huh? If it's in the brain that's the very definition of a mental disorder. |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Mon Feb 24 11:35:03 2020, in response to Re: Flat-Earther Dies In Homemade Rocket Crash, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 24 11:30:32 2020. As our understanding of human psychology gets better what was once considered a disorder is proven not so.For instance being gay or a lesbian was considered such. Now we look back and think other wise. We could go on and on with such examples. So is being physically attraction to the same sex a mental disorder spider? |
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Posted by The Silence on Mon Feb 24 11:43:21 2020, in response to Re: Flat-Earther Dies In Homemade Rocket Crash, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 24 11:30:32 2020. The way I've always looked at it;The brain is the computer, the "mind" in the OS running on it. Most mental disorders are program errors. Being transgender has been show, through documented testing, to be hardware based. My sister is recovering from a nervous breakdown. she's on a few medications that are slowly correcting her problems. There is no pill I could pop that could me go "Oh, I am a man, I being was silly." because that's not how this works AT ALL. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Feb 24 11:43:59 2020, in response to Re: Flat-Earther Dies In Homemade Rocket Crash, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 24 11:30:32 2020. So such things as brain tumors and CTE are also "mental disorders", too? |
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Posted by The Silence on Mon Feb 24 11:44:47 2020, in response to Re: Flat-Earther Dies In Homemade Rocket Crash, posted by ClearAspect on Mon Feb 24 10:39:52 2020. Hey, I'm the one being indirectly insulted here and even I haven't stooped to cursing people out. Calm down. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 24 11:52:46 2020, in response to Re: Flat-Earther Dies In Homemade Rocket Crash, posted by ClearAspect on Mon Feb 24 11:35:03 2020. On some level, being gay is a disorder. The usual behavior is that men are attracted to women and women are attracted to men. Thus being attracted otherwise is "disordered."The difference is that the "treatment" for being gay is not nearly as invasive and potentially harmful as that for being trans. It's not in the DSM-V because it's not a thing that needs a professional diagnosis, and it's not something that needs to be "cured." |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Mon Feb 24 11:54:20 2020, in response to Re: Flat-Earther Dies In Homemade Rocket Crash, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 24 11:52:46 2020. Is that societal saying so? |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Feb 24 11:55:17 2020, in response to Re: Flat-Earther Dies In Homemade Rocket Crash, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 24 11:52:46 2020. Homosexuality occurs throughout the animal kingdom, though. Did those two gay penguins at the Norwegian zoo have a "disorder", too? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 24 11:59:18 2020, in response to Re: Flat-Earther Dies In Homemade Rocket Crash, posted by The Silence on Mon Feb 24 11:43:21 2020. I don't draw that distinction and plenty of things called "mental disorders" are in any event shown to be "hardware based" using your analogy. Like schizophrenia. Even for some disorders previously thought to be all "software" like depression, recent research has shown otherwise.My sister is recovering from a nervous breakdown. she's on a few medications that are slowly correcting her problems. There is no pill I could pop that could me go "Oh, I am a man, I being was silly." because that's not how this works AT ALL. There probably could be, it just hasn't been invented yet. I'm sure also that it's possible to change one's personality and even memories using as yet unknown pills. Advanced technology could also improve body modification. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Feb 24 12:25:45 2020, in response to Re: Flat-Earther Dies In Homemade Rocket Crash, posted by ClearAspect on Mon Feb 24 11:23:50 2020. It's you who is full of SHIT, and I am not using anything derogatory by saying they have a "condition".And I know your game. Stop the utter Bullshit. You think by attempting to compare me to someone like ntrain, you "win". It's comical actually. Typical leftist, "attempt to break down the character of anyone who disagrees with you". You fit the stereotype perfectly. |
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