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Abraham Lincoln's Birthday

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Feb 12 11:44:00 2020

The second greatest president ever. No excuse that today is not a federal holiday.

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Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Wed Feb 12 12:18:29 2020, in response to Abraham Lincoln's Birthday, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Feb 12 11:44:00 2020.

Bump

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Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Feb 12 12:27:00 2020, in response to Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday, posted by Chicagomotorman on Wed Feb 12 12:18:29 2020.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

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Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday

Posted by WayneJay on Wed Feb 12 12:41:25 2020, in response to Abraham Lincoln's Birthday, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Feb 12 11:44:00 2020.

Lol! Oooook!

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Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Feb 12 12:45:14 2020, in response to Abraham Lincoln's Birthday, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Feb 12 11:44:00 2020.

I was cutting down a Cherry tree in my front yard and then realized that it was the wrong president's birthday.

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Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Wed Feb 12 12:47:17 2020, in response to Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday, posted by WayneJay on Wed Feb 12 12:41:25 2020.

WTF is so funny?

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Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Wed Feb 12 12:47:42 2020, in response to Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday, posted by Train Dude on Wed Feb 12 12:45:14 2020.

Very funny. NOT!!!

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Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Feb 12 12:57:48 2020, in response to Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday, posted by Chicagomotorman on Wed Feb 12 12:47:42 2020.

Gee, and my whole life mission is to entertain you.

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Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Feb 12 13:05:48 2020, in response to Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday, posted by Train Dude on Wed Feb 12 12:57:48 2020.



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Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Feb 12 13:06:28 2020, in response to Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Feb 12 12:27:00 2020.

Why? He freed the slaves.

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Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Feb 12 13:11:36 2020, in response to Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Feb 12 13:06:28 2020.

REALLY

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Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Feb 12 13:27:13 2020, in response to Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Feb 12 13:11:36 2020.

Not only was spelling and grammar were not your best subjects, apparently history wasn't either.

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Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday

Posted by mtk52983 on Wed Feb 12 13:54:05 2020, in response to Abraham Lincoln's Birthday, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Feb 12 11:44:00 2020.

I would rank George Washington and Thomas Jefferson ahead of him. I do agree that we should have a Federal holiday, but I also believe that Election Day should be a national holiday and nobody should be compelled to work during the hours that the polls are open.

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Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Feb 12 13:57:15 2020, in response to Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday, posted by mtk52983 on Wed Feb 12 13:54:05 2020.

Apples and oranges. I agree that there national elections should be a national holiday, although I don't believe that will garner that many more voters. And even though I like Thomas Jefferson, I don't think he ranks better that Lincoln. Why do you think he does?

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Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday

Posted by mtk52983 on Wed Feb 12 14:06:44 2020, in response to Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Feb 12 13:57:15 2020.

Among other things he lowered the National Debt, expanded the United States through thew Louisina Purchase, established United States Military Academy at West Point, ended the legalized slave trade. Also did a lot for the United States before and after his presidency.

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Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday

Posted by mtk52983 on Wed Feb 12 14:09:35 2020, in response to Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday, posted by mtk52983 on Wed Feb 12 14:06:44 2020.

That being said, I can see an argument for any ordering of the top 3 Presidents.

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Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Feb 12 14:23:54 2020, in response to Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday, posted by mtk52983 on Wed Feb 12 14:06:44 2020.

Good points.

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Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 12 14:25:22 2020, in response to Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday, posted by mtk52983 on Wed Feb 12 13:54:05 2020.

Unless you want to come up with a mechanism to mandate paid holidays, making Election Day a holiday is worthless. It should be a Sunday.

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Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 12 14:32:16 2020, in response to Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday, posted by mtk52983 on Wed Feb 12 14:06:44 2020.

I agree with you about the other things, but I don’t think lowering the national debt is by itself a laudable goal. He’s also responsible for the Embargo Act of 1807.

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Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Feb 12 15:32:06 2020, in response to Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 12 14:25:22 2020.

I could go along with that.

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Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Feb 12 15:35:23 2020, in response to Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday, posted by Chicagomotorman on Wed Feb 12 12:47:17 2020.

He's a republican. Therefore, Honest Abe is a racist!

Just like math is racist.

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Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Feb 12 15:49:03 2020, in response to Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Feb 12 15:35:23 2020.

Thank you. I wonder if Waynejay would admit it.

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Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Feb 12 15:58:33 2020, in response to Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Feb 12 15:49:03 2020.

In other news, it was announced that the Budget is racist.

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Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday

Posted by mtk52983 on Wed Feb 12 15:59:25 2020, in response to Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 12 14:32:16 2020.

Nobody's perfect

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Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Feb 12 15:59:50 2020, in response to Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Feb 12 13:27:13 2020.

YOU DONT KNOW WHAT I KNOW AND DONT KNOW

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Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Feb 12 17:10:28 2020, in response to Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Feb 12 15:32:06 2020.

Most of the country already gets to vote whenever they want to. One of the biggest states in the country lets you vote in the supermarket while your buying groceries.

This whole conversation that spider-pig is bringing up is outdated by a few centuries and pointless.

And during Football Season.

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Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 12 19:23:20 2020, in response to Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Feb 12 17:10:28 2020.

It’s not. Early voting schemes cost the state money, and are susceptible to cuts when early voting tends to be used by certain classes.

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Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday

Posted by Dyre Dan on Fri Feb 14 08:39:28 2020, in response to Abraham Lincoln's Birthday, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Feb 12 11:44:00 2020.

Didn't it use to be a state holiday in many states, including New York? You hardly hear a word about it now, since it was folded into "Presidents Day".

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Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Feb 14 09:35:59 2020, in response to Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday, posted by Dyre Dan on Fri Feb 14 08:39:28 2020.

I remember it being a school holiday growing up.

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Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Feb 14 09:47:20 2020, in response to Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 12 14:25:22 2020.

I like the liberal idea of voting early. What the heck. We should all vote whenever the hell we want to.

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Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Feb 14 09:56:51 2020, in response to Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday, posted by Train Dude on Fri Feb 14 09:47:20 2020.

Yes, we should vote when we want to within a period of 1-2 weeks. What is the problem with that?

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Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Feb 14 10:01:06 2020, in response to Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Feb 14 09:56:51 2020.

I personally like going to the polls on election day. It's at my old elementary school and the PTA always has a bake sale!! Maybe I'm just resistant to change!!

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Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Feb 14 10:03:59 2020, in response to Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Feb 14 09:56:51 2020.

I don't like it. I liked the old traditional election day where you and all your neighbors would go to the school gym and vote.

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Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Feb 14 10:15:47 2020, in response to Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday, posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Feb 14 10:01:06 2020.

So, you can do that, and everyone else can vote early on a Saturday or Sunday.

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Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Feb 14 10:18:15 2020, in response to Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday, posted by Train Dude on Fri Feb 14 10:03:59 2020.

I agree. It's sort of like a social event!!

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Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Feb 14 10:24:19 2020, in response to Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday, posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Feb 14 10:18:15 2020.

A social event that's inconvenient for many people.

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Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday

Posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Feb 14 11:09:49 2020, in response to Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Feb 14 10:15:47 2020.

Then they better not announce early returns.

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Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Feb 14 11:12:09 2020, in response to Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Feb 14 10:24:19 2020.

I've been voting on election day for over 40 years. Never missed one and never felt inconvenienced.

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Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday

Posted by bingbong on Fri Feb 14 11:24:41 2020, in response to Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 12 19:23:20 2020.

Exactly. In some Southern states particularly, church congregations would hire buses and head to early voting. As the powers that be saw these particular groups voting over a few cycles, they suddenly decide Sunday early voting is costing too much, when all it was costing them was their hold on power.

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Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Feb 14 11:27:10 2020, in response to Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday, posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Feb 14 11:09:49 2020.

They don't do that.

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Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Feb 14 11:27:30 2020, in response to Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday, posted by Train Dude on Fri Feb 14 11:12:09 2020.

Good for you.

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Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Feb 14 11:27:59 2020, in response to Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday, posted by Train Dude on Fri Feb 14 11:12:09 2020.

Me too.

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Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Fri Feb 14 11:28:35 2020, in response to Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Feb 14 11:27:10 2020.

Yeah they (the media) learned their lesson in 1980 (Google it)

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Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Feb 14 11:31:27 2020, in response to Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday, posted by bingbong on Fri Feb 14 11:24:41 2020.

My uncle complains about "poll busing" as if providing free transportation to people to vote is a bad thing. The implication, of course, being that people are being bused to polls outside their own precincts, which is BS.

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Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday

Posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Feb 14 11:33:44 2020, in response to Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Feb 14 11:27:10 2020.

I’m just saying. In the interest of fairness to all, they’ll need a gag order.

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Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Feb 14 11:34:14 2020, in response to Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Feb 14 11:31:27 2020.

Years ago, the MTA and various other transit systems around the country suspended fares in New Year's Eve/New Year's Day, to curb drunken driving. I think that's an idea whose time has come for Election Day, as an incentive for people to go out and vote.

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Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Feb 14 11:37:55 2020, in response to Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Fri Feb 14 11:28:35 2020.

I did look it up and I don't see it as an issue. Reagan reached 270 before western polls close. They didn't wait for polls in Alaska and Hawaii to close to announce Obama as the winner in 2008.

Not the media, but I called it before the western polls closed.

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Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday

Posted by bingbong on Fri Feb 14 11:40:23 2020, in response to Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Feb 14 11:31:27 2020.

Really? Political parties and candidates have been doing that as long as I can remember. Never heard of taking anyone anywhere beyond where they should legitimately vote either.

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Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Feb 14 11:40:43 2020, in response to Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Feb 14 11:34:14 2020.

And here in Chicago, cta does not hold trains mid route at stations.

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Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday

Posted by AlM on Fri Feb 14 11:41:15 2020, in response to Re: Abraham Lincoln's Birthday, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Feb 14 11:34:14 2020.

Maybe that would encourage drunken voting? :)

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