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Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews

Posted by Dave on Thu Dec 12 07:19:05 2019

A video that was shared by American Against Anti Semitism shows a shocking encounter between a representative and onlookers at the scene of the horrific terror attack.

The woman can be heard saying “I blame the Jews” and “we never had a shooting like this until they came” when the rep asked if her children were stuck at school, she responded “Yes, because of Jew Shenanigans”

Others could be heard saying “They got shot dead, That’s great”

Another man can be heard “Get the damn Jews the F***k out”

“While the Jewish blood of terror victims was still warm, local residents gathered outside not to show support, not to offer help, but to condemn Jews, blame Jews for their own deaths, and cheer it on,” said Dov Hikind on the shocking footage. “The big story here is that not only was there a horrible terror attack motivated by antisemitism that occurred, but it happened in a context in which wishing death on Jews seems totally normal.”

A police officer, three bystanders and the killers all died in the violence Tuesday afternoon in the city of 270,000 people across the Hudson River from New York City.

The shooting began near a cemetery, where Detective Joseph Seals, a 40-year-old member of a unit devoted to taking illegal guns off the street, was killed while trying to stop “bad guys,” Police Chief Michael Kelly said without elaborating.

The killers then drove a stolen rental van over a mile to the kosher market, where they used high-powered rifle fire in a drawn-out battle with police that filled the streets with the sound of heavy gunfire and turned the city into what looked like a war zone, with SWAT officers in full tactical gear swarming the neighborhood.

At the grocery store, police found five bodies — the killers and three people who apparently happened to be there at the time. Police said they were confident the bystanders were shot by the gunmen and not by police.

Two of the victims at the store were identified by members of the Orthodox Jewish community as Mindel Ferencz, who with her husband owned the grocery, and 24-year-old Moshe Deutsch, a rabbinical student from Brooklyn who was shopping there. The Ferencz family had moved to Jersey City from Brooklyn.

Fulop said a review of security camera footage has led to the conclusion that the gunmen targeted the market.

“Last night after extensive review of our CCTV system it has now become clear from the cameras that these two individuals targeted the Kosher grocery location,” Fulop tweeted.

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Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Dec 12 07:23:12 2019, in response to Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews, posted by Dave on Thu Dec 12 07:19:05 2019.

CMM posted the video

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Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Dec 12 07:29:56 2019, in response to Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews, posted by Dave on Thu Dec 12 07:19:05 2019.

This is disgusting. Jersey City has had a gin problem for a LONG time, and it has little to do with the presence of any individual group. Blaming Jews (or any other group of people) for being victimized, is reprehensible.

It just shows that bigotry knows no boundaries.

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Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Dec 12 07:30:13 2019, in response to Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews, posted by Dave on Thu Dec 12 07:19:05 2019.

This is disgusting. Jersey City has had a gun problem for a LONG time, and it has little to do with the presence of any individual group. Blaming Jews (or any other group of people) for being victimized, is reprehensible.

It just shows that bigotry knows no boundaries.

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Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Dec 12 07:30:45 2019, in response to Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews, posted by Dave on Thu Dec 12 07:19:05 2019.

This story was only picked up by Fox 5 NY (not even Fox News national) and some Jewish publications. If the situation were reversed, you can be damn assured this would be big news, but it’s not. Expected, though.

#JewishLivesMatter

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Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Dec 12 07:32:00 2019, in response to Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Dec 12 07:30:13 2019.

Guns aren’t the problem. Anyone can use guns and anyone can be shot dead with them.

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Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews

Posted by 3-9 on Thu Dec 12 07:38:58 2019, in response to Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews, posted by Dave on Thu Dec 12 07:19:05 2019.

WTF

1 step forward, 3 steps back.

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Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Dec 12 07:46:02 2019, in response to Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Dec 12 07:32:00 2019.

Gun proliferation most certainly is the problem. Too many guns within easy reach. The United States has more guns than people. That's a situation none of us should find tolerable.

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Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Dec 12 07:51:16 2019, in response to Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Dec 12 07:46:02 2019.

You are totally missing the point here and hijacking this thread.

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Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Dec 12 08:20:05 2019, in response to Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Dec 12 07:51:16 2019.

Am I? Blaming the victims, which is what the OP is about, vs. blaming the true cause of the violence, which is hate-filled individuals + easy access to guns?

That's "thread hijacking"?

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Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Dec 12 08:21:34 2019, in response to Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Dec 12 07:46:02 2019.

No! The problem is Jews who believe that they can win the hearts and minds of black anti-Semites by civility.

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Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews

Posted by mtk52983 on Thu Dec 12 08:23:46 2019, in response to Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Dec 12 08:20:05 2019.

Take out the hate filled individuals and this does not take place. Guns can only fire if someone wants them to fire.

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Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews

Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Dec 12 08:25:53 2019, in response to Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Dec 12 07:23:12 2019.

Thank you for giving me my props.

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Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews

Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Dec 12 08:27:02 2019, in response to Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Dec 12 07:30:13 2019.

Thank you so much for your response. Outstanding. Iawtlp.

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Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews

Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Dec 12 08:28:24 2019, in response to Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Dec 12 07:30:45 2019.

Jewish Lives Matter

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Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Dec 12 08:30:10 2019, in response to Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Dec 12 07:30:45 2019.

Biased media that only carries stories that support their narrative? It must really suck when you are a liberal and you become a victim of your own liberalism.

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Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews

Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Dec 12 08:34:42 2019, in response to Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews, posted by Train Dude on Thu Dec 12 08:30:10 2019.

Iawtlp

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Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews

Posted by AlM on Thu Dec 12 08:51:10 2019, in response to Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews, posted by mtk52983 on Thu Dec 12 08:23:46 2019.

But it's impossible to remove the hate filled individuals. No society has ever succeeded in doing that. Therefore your solution simply doesn't work.



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Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Dec 12 11:03:25 2019, in response to Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews, posted by Dave on Thu Dec 12 07:19:05 2019.

I agree with the above replies. They've been saying these things since the Jews marched with them on the Civil Rights trail. So? That's how these folks are.

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Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews

Posted by Dave on Thu Dec 12 11:17:12 2019, in response to Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews, posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Dec 12 08:27:02 2019.

IAWTP.

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Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Dec 12 11:52:00 2019, in response to Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews, posted by mtk52983 on Thu Dec 12 08:23:46 2019.

Yep!

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Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Dec 12 11:52:56 2019, in response to Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews, posted by AlM on Thu Dec 12 08:51:10 2019.

What would YOUR solution be, without violating the Constitution?

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Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews

Posted by rkba on Thu Dec 12 11:54:28 2019, in response to Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Dec 12 11:52:56 2019.

why would an avowed leftist like him care about the Constitution?

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Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews

Posted by AlM on Thu Dec 12 12:04:53 2019, in response to Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Dec 12 11:52:56 2019.

I've posted many times. Rigorous nation-wide background checks and limits as to what kind of heavy-duty arms that are more suited for military use one is allowed to bear.

Nothing I have proposed was considered unconstitutional by Scalia in his Heller decision.


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Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews

Posted by Mitch45 on Thu Dec 12 12:11:51 2019, in response to Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Dec 12 07:29:56 2019.

Gin rummy or gin the alcohol?

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Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews

Posted by Mitch45 on Thu Dec 12 12:12:42 2019, in response to Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Dec 12 07:30:45 2019.

What situation was reversed? If Hasidim got rifles and attacked a black-owned grocery store? I doubt you'd ever see that.

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Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews

Posted by Mitch45 on Thu Dec 12 12:14:02 2019, in response to Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Dec 12 11:03:25 2019.

Ask any black person who Michael Schwerner and Andrew Goodman were. They will have zero idea. The notion of Jews giving up their lives for the sake of civil rights is not taught to black children because it goes against the liberal narrative.

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Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Dec 12 12:35:14 2019, in response to Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Dec 12 08:20:05 2019.

The true cause of the violence is antisemitism. If there were no guns, they’d use knives, IEDs, or cars. If you want to discuss guns, start a new thread.

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Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Dec 12 12:35:35 2019, in response to Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews, posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Dec 12 08:25:53 2019.

You’re welcome.

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Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Dec 12 12:44:49 2019, in response to Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews, posted by Mitch45 on Thu Dec 12 12:14:02 2019.

Schwerner and Goodman were two of the three civil rights advocates who were likely killed by deputies of the Neshoba, Mississippi sheriff's department in the summer of 1964. The suspects were also probably members of the KKK. No real attempt was made to punish any of the killers.

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Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Dec 12 12:49:28 2019, in response to Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews, posted by Mitch45 on Thu Dec 12 12:12:42 2019.

No. If Jews were recorded complaining about blacks during a standoff in which blacks were killed.

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Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews

Posted by AlM on Thu Dec 12 13:46:22 2019, in response to Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Dec 12 12:35:14 2019.

Knives and cars aren't as efficient as guns. IEDs are hard to procure and hard to build effectively.





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Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Dec 12 14:25:04 2019, in response to Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews, posted by Mitch45 on Thu Dec 12 12:14:02 2019.

The biggest insult is that they deleted everyone from Oprah's movie about Selma.

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Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Dec 12 14:30:11 2019, in response to Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Dec 12 14:25:04 2019.

TO HELL WITH OPRAH

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Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews

Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Dec 12 14:41:47 2019, in response to Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Dec 12 12:44:49 2019.

That's gratitude for you.

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Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Dec 12 15:29:16 2019, in response to Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Dec 12 12:44:49 2019.

Excellent. You only needed an hour to look it up

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Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews

Posted by AlM on Thu Dec 12 15:32:03 2019, in response to Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews, posted by Mitch45 on Thu Dec 12 12:14:02 2019.

Your first two sentences are an exaggeration. Some will know, and sadly many won't.

Your final sentence is defamatory.



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Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Dec 12 15:35:41 2019, in response to Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews, posted by AlM on Thu Dec 12 13:46:22 2019.

Stop perpetuating his insensitive and Luchian thread hijack.

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Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Dec 12 15:41:14 2019, in response to Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews, posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Dec 12 14:41:47 2019.

IAWTP

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Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Dec 12 15:42:26 2019, in response to Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews, posted by AlM on Thu Dec 12 15:32:03 2019.

Whom is it defaming?

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Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews

Posted by AlM on Thu Dec 12 15:44:36 2019, in response to Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Dec 12 15:42:26 2019.

Liberals.


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Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Dec 12 16:10:04 2019, in response to Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews, posted by Train Dude on Thu Dec 12 15:29:16 2019.

I'm not monitoring this board 24/7 like you do.

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Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews

Posted by Dave on Thu Dec 12 16:16:39 2019, in response to Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews, posted by AlM on Thu Dec 12 15:44:36 2019.

Truth is an absolute defense.

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Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Dec 12 16:58:40 2019, in response to Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews, posted by Dave on Thu Dec 12 16:16:39 2019.

RW TOO

FOX

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Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Dec 12 18:51:55 2019, in response to Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews, posted by AlM on Thu Dec 12 15:44:36 2019.

Large groups can’t legally be defamed.

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Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Dec 12 18:54:06 2019, in response to Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Dec 12 14:25:04 2019.

Why would the make a movie about Selma and not about Patti? Sounds homophobic if you ask me.

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Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews

Posted by AlM on Thu Dec 12 18:55:37 2019, in response to Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Dec 12 18:51:55 2019.

"Defamatory" is a word with meaning outside a court of law. Just because I can't legally sue you doesn't mean you haven't defamed me.



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Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews

Posted by ntrainride on Thu Dec 12 18:59:05 2019, in response to Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Dec 12 07:46:02 2019.

smfh. you could be killed with a plastic straw from mcdonalds. or someone could hit you in the head with a rock. or someone could hold your head underwater for five minutes. or shove a screwdriver or a pencil in your eye.

ten million ways to get killed. at least.

it's not the means. it's the impetus.


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Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews

Posted by Easy on Thu Dec 12 19:29:35 2019, in response to Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Dec 12 07:23:12 2019.

Reading it is bad enough. I don’t think that I can handle watching.

I’ve been of the opinion that I don’t care what people think about me or others. People can think what they want as long as they don’t break the law. I’m questioning that now.

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Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews

Posted by ntrainride on Thu Dec 12 19:30:33 2019, in response to Re: Onlookers at Scene of JC Terror Attack Blame the Jews, posted by AlM on Thu Dec 12 12:04:53 2019.

it's just that... anything on this planet could be used as a weapon. anything. water. pinecones. rats. bottles. bricks. sand. feet. spiders.

anything.

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