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Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Dec 3 14:12:11 2019

House Democrats have released their report on Trump and his dealings with Ukraine, detailing the precedents for impeaching a President, and describing the White Attempts to stymie the inquiry.

The House Judiciary Committee will now begin hearings on drawing up articles of impeachment against Trump, which will ultimately be voted on by the full House.

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Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Dec 3 14:19:05 2019, in response to Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Dec 3 14:12:11 2019.

figures

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Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Dec 3 14:21:04 2019, in response to Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Dec 3 14:19:05 2019.

What "figures"? The Republicans released their fantasy report yesterday.

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Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Dec 3 14:27:05 2019, in response to Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Dec 3 14:21:04 2019.

WHAT ??????????????????????????????????

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Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Dec 3 14:30:46 2019, in response to Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Dec 3 14:27:05 2019.

Look it up.

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Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Dec 3 14:34:09 2019, in response to Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Dec 3 14:12:11 2019.

Tinkerbell has his stroke material for tonight.

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Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Dec 3 14:35:20 2019, in response to Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine, posted by Train Dude on Tue Dec 3 14:34:09 2019.

Have you stopped making death threats against people yet?

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Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Dec 3 14:36:24 2019, in response to Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Dec 3 14:35:20 2019.

Geez, Tinky, are you having a meltdown?

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Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Dec 3 14:37:05 2019, in response to Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine, posted by Train Dude on Tue Dec 3 14:36:24 2019.

Why do you believe it's OK to make death threats?

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Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Dec 3 14:38:49 2019, in response to Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Dec 3 14:37:05 2019.

Silly boy.

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Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Dec 3 16:12:43 2019, in response to Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Dec 3 14:12:11 2019.

This is it!!!! Really it this time!!! The holy Grail!!!! You just have to believe!!!!!

Oh wait....

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Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Dec 3 16:14:07 2019, in response to Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Dec 3 14:21:04 2019.

You mean like the Democratic report today?

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Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine

Posted by AlM on Tue Dec 3 16:16:54 2019, in response to Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Dec 3 14:12:11 2019.

But don't forget, the really earth-shattering report, that will destroy the reputation of the Democratic Party forever, is coming out on December 9th.




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Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Dec 3 16:23:32 2019, in response to Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Dec 3 14:19:05 2019.

Whatdya mean? This was written years ago, with Saudi money, through the broke Clinton Foundation, by a foreign agent who has a questionable record.

About time they released the report on Hillary.

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Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Dec 3 17:02:06 2019, in response to Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Dec 3 16:12:43 2019.

You mean like the bombshell report coming out on December 9th that will end the Democratic Party forever?

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Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Dec 3 17:06:27 2019, in response to Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Dec 3 17:02:06 2019.

If you say so.

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Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Dec 3 17:07:15 2019, in response to Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Dec 3 17:06:27 2019.

To clarify. I don't post about them every time I feel the need to ejaculate.

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Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Dec 3 17:16:03 2019, in response to Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Dec 3 17:07:15 2019.

Huh???

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Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Dec 3 17:25:45 2019, in response to Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Dec 3 14:12:11 2019.

And rejected. Bro, you're gonna have a meltdown next November 4th morning. I can't WAIT for your stuttering, stammering huminahuminahumina excuses!!

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Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Dec 3 17:43:34 2019, in response to Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Dec 3 17:25:45 2019.

I never said Trump couldn't be re-elected. I know that it's certainly possible. The most I said was "we'll see", because I'm hoping the exposition of Trump's behavior before the American people will cause them to reconsider sending Trump back to the White House for another four years.

I know Trump is unlikely to be convicted by a Senate his own party controls. However, it may be enough that people see this criminal for what he really is, not what the GOP wants everyone to believe. Trump shouldn't be elected dogcatcher, much less to a second term as President.

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Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine

Posted by Mtk52983 on Tue Dec 3 17:51:32 2019, in response to Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Dec 3 17:43:34 2019.

The only criminals these investigations have shown are Congressional Democrats who are holding American people hostage in order to demonstrate that President Trump is a narcissist. Last I checked narcissism isn't illegal.

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Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine

Posted by AlM on Tue Dec 3 17:54:48 2019, in response to Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine, posted by Mtk52983 on Tue Dec 3 17:51:32 2019.

Narcissism isn't illegal.

Bribery is. So is obstruction of justice. So are campaign finance violations. So is falsification of business records.

If he were not President he would already have been indicted for all of these.



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Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Dec 3 17:57:55 2019, in response to Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Dec 3 17:43:34 2019.

Oh, it's going to happen!

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Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine

Posted by Mtk52983 on Tue Dec 3 17:59:18 2019, in response to Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine, posted by AlM on Tue Dec 3 17:54:48 2019.

None of those charges have been proven by Democrats. Not to mention that the push to impeach started well before criminal Hunter Biden and his father sleepy Joe. There were Democrats talking impeachment even before the annointed one lost.

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Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Dec 3 18:10:48 2019, in response to Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine, posted by Mtk52983 on Tue Dec 3 17:59:18 2019.

There is overwhelming evidence, some of it Trump's own words, supporting every single charge the House Democrats accused Trump of today.

Trump has abused the powers of his office.
Trump has committed bribery.
Trump solicited the help of a foreign government to attack one of his political rivals.
Trump has repeatedly tried to frustrate the impeachment process by ordering his lieutenants not to comply with Congressional subpoenas.
Trump has attempted to undermine the Mueller investigation (in which the Special Counsel himself illustrates ten very clear examples of Trump obstructing justice), by trying to have Mueller fired.

All of these things are FACTS.

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Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine

Posted by Mtk52983 on Tue Dec 3 18:25:10 2019, in response to Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Dec 3 18:10:48 2019.

Says you, an admittedly biased never Trumper. I didn't vote for Trump and prefer to look neutrally at the facts.

No bribery. Like every other President he stipulated that United States policy preferences be followed to get aid. In this case the policy preference was announcing a commitment to ending corruption. Not Trump's fault that Bidens were corrupt. Should Obama have been impeached for conditioning aid to Israel on negotiations with "Palestinians?"

Every administration has defied subpoenas.

Mueller wasn't fired. Not to mention that doing so would not be illegal since he served at the pleasure of the President.

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Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 3 19:01:58 2019, in response to Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine, posted by Mtk52983 on Tue Dec 3 18:25:10 2019.

These weren’t United States policy preferences, these were his personal preferences. He was using our country as his personal fiefdom.

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Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine

Posted by AlM on Tue Dec 3 19:04:45 2019, in response to Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine, posted by Mtk52983 on Tue Dec 3 17:59:18 2019.

None of those charges have been proven by Democrats.

Correct. They are accusations. But all have enough backup evidence to warrant an indictment. Impeachment is also just an accusation, not an offer of proof beyond reasonable doubt.

Some radicals were talking impeachment from day one. But Nancy Pelosi and a majority of the House only did after clearly high crimes surfaced, and not just misdemeanor falsification of business records and the like.



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Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine

Posted by AlM on Tue Dec 3 19:05:55 2019, in response to Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 3 19:01:58 2019.

Republicans can't understand the distinction between quid pro quos on behalf of the country vs on behalf of the person.



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Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Dec 3 19:15:30 2019, in response to Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Dec 3 14:12:11 2019.

They had a report with Robert Mueller's name on it too. That went nowhere fast.

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Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Dec 3 19:43:29 2019, in response to Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Dec 3 19:15:30 2019.

Only to people who didn't bother to read it. I fully expect the Mueller report to be among the items cited in the Articles of Impeachment. There is an excellent discussion of Trump's obstructive behavior within its pages.

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Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 3 19:51:17 2019, in response to Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine, posted by AlM on Tue Dec 3 19:05:55 2019.

At this point it’s the Trump Party. They are in his excellency’s thrall and to them his excellency is the personification of the State. I wouldn’t be surprised if his excellency started using the royal “we.”

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Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine

Posted by AlM on Tue Dec 3 19:57:25 2019, in response to Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 3 19:51:17 2019.

His Excellency is really losing it and might just start saying "we" because he's fully lost command of the English language. Today he didn't recall ever knowing Prince Andrew.




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Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Dec 3 20:19:15 2019, in response to Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Dec 3 17:25:45 2019.

Adam Schiff being taken to federal prison can't come fast enough.

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Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Dec 3 20:22:12 2019, in response to Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Dec 3 20:19:15 2019.

You really exist in a bizarre reality.

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Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 3 21:14:03 2019, in response to Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Dec 3 20:22:12 2019.

Nope. He sincerely believes that enemies of Trump are enemies of the State. That’s why he reads the Soviet Constitution, he wants to know how to turn the USA into an oppressive hellhole, but with the glorious Trump as exalted leader.

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Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Dec 3 23:07:54 2019, in response to Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Dec 3 19:43:29 2019.

LoL Tinkerbell.

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Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Dec 4 01:09:26 2019, in response to Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 3 21:14:03 2019.

You really do have tds

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Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 4 01:11:13 2019, in response to Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Dec 4 01:09:26 2019.

I wasn’t talking about Trump. You really do have an obsession with calling out imagined “TDS.”

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Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Dec 4 01:13:14 2019, in response to Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 4 01:11:13 2019.

No it's the actually thinking that people want Trump as a dictator or that he even acts like it

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Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 4 01:22:26 2019, in response to Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Dec 4 01:13:14 2019.

Olog-hai does. And he does act like dictators do.

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Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 4 01:27:30 2019, in response to Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Dec 4 01:13:14 2019.

And it’s also telling that you responded to my post but completely ignored the post that led to my response, the one where the troll calls for Schiff to be imprisoned. What? No claims of “SDS” from you?

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Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine

Posted by AlM on Wed Dec 4 01:32:27 2019, in response to Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Dec 4 01:13:14 2019.

What on earth is calling for Adam Schiff to be imprisoned other than wanting Trump to be a dictator?



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Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Dec 4 02:29:54 2019, in response to Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Dec 4 01:13:14 2019.

Ah yes, the old "dictatorship of the bourgeoisie" lie.

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Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Dec 4 02:32:17 2019, in response to Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 4 01:27:30 2019.

I honestly didn't read his. I read chronologically, click on posters I usually find interesting, and skip many of people that usually rant, or things like the salaam and Chicago (or whoever) is involved in a back and forth salaam like rant.
I don't intentionally skip olag, but he isn't one of the first I click on, especially in the middle of the night when I am insomnia reading

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Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Dec 4 02:51:06 2019, in response to Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 4 01:27:30 2019.

the one where the troll calls for Schiff to be imprisoned

You really do have an obsessive personality. After all, you started the first post that stalked me here, dintcha?

Schiff's already lied to the public a zillion times, and is subverting the principle of innocent until proven guilty with this "impeachment process" never mind all the public money he's absconding with to push it through. So my opinion stands, stalker.

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Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Dec 4 03:01:38 2019, in response to Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Dec 4 02:51:06 2019.

I didn't have an opinion of Schiff either way before all this (really didn't know much about him)....but after that ridiculous scam of an opening to the impeachment ordeal, I lost all respect

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Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Dec 4 03:04:00 2019, in response to Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Dec 4 02:32:17 2019.

Heh. What if he started a "GP38Chrisology of terror" thread? He started the first one back in October of 2013, so think about what kind of mindset you're trying to reason with when you talk to him . . .

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Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Dec 4 03:06:24 2019, in response to Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Dec 4 03:01:38 2019.

He was blathering about having "proof" of some kind of crime by Trump two years ago. He never came up with anything, though, and he's still trying to invent stuff now.

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Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Wed Dec 4 07:43:05 2019, in response to Re: Congressional Dems Release Report On Trump/Ukraine, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Dec 4 03:04:00 2019.

And all this time I thought it was Dand who started it (he may have started some of the follow-up ones though)

And GP38/r42Chrisology of terror (handle corrected) is too much typing lol



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