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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sat Aug 24 10:49:38 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by Easy on Sat Aug 24 10:43:27 2019.

Obviously, if we are going to look at tax returns, let's do it for all senators and representatives, too. I for one would like to know how one Conn. Senator made $8 million 2 years ago when his salary is $174K.

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 24 10:55:30 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sat Aug 24 10:49:38 2019.

That's fair.

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Aug 24 11:03:49 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by Easy on Sat Aug 24 10:43:27 2019.

...and yet, Trump goes to great lengths to hide his.

That's a huge red flag.

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by Easy on Sat Aug 24 11:14:29 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sat Aug 24 10:49:38 2019.

Exactly my point. No one cares about tax returns for making informed choices about candidates. They only care if it shows something negative about the opposition.

My former congressperson filed for bankruptcy twice and had some very questionable business ventures where she received money yet brought nothing to the deal. Yet no one cared. She didn't even release tax returns. My point is that people will vote for their candidate regardless.

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by Easy on Sat Aug 24 11:17:16 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Aug 24 11:03:49 2019.

If only voters spent as much energy looking for red flags for candidates that they would consider voting for. Until then it's just BS.

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Aug 24 11:45:05 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Aug 24 11:03:49 2019.

Lol!! The only ones who this matters to is the desperatos who can win on their own merit

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Aug 24 11:58:41 2019, in response to Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by Mitch45 on Fri Aug 23 08:00:55 2019.



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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 24 12:15:44 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by Easy on Sat Aug 24 11:17:16 2019.

IAWTP.

As for the tax returns, I agree that it's not important. I am fairly confident that if Trump's tax returns were revealed to the public, his supporters would not abandon him.

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Aug 24 12:17:37 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Aug 24 11:03:49 2019.

LOL!! The only ones who this matters to is the desperatos who can not win on their own merit


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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Aug 24 12:19:45 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Aug 24 11:58:41 2019.

w1n

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Aug 24 12:29:38 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Aug 24 12:19:45 2019.

I didn't win shit.

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Aug 24 12:29:47 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Aug 24 12:19:45 2019.

I didn't win shit.

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Aug 24 12:33:53 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Aug 24 12:29:47 2019.

You didn't lose, though.

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Aug 24 12:35:04 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 24 12:15:44 2019.

I wonder about that. Transparency is a sine qua non for major political figures.

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 24 12:39:49 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Aug 24 11:58:41 2019.

Good for Obama.

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 24 12:40:50 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Aug 24 12:35:04 2019.

I'm not disagreeing with you. The more transparency, the better. But the thing is, no one cares.

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Aug 24 12:48:43 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Aug 24 12:33:53 2019.

For the umpteenth time, I am not here to win or lose anything. I'm here to vent and have fun.

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Aug 24 12:49:57 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 24 12:39:49 2019.

I'm not begrudging him. Just pointing out the hypocrisy.

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Aug 24 13:01:25 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Aug 24 12:48:43 2019.

So what? Winning is fun.

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 24 13:13:36 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Aug 24 12:49:57 2019.

Not hypocritical.

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Aug 24 13:35:51 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sat Aug 24 06:15:09 2019.

School lunch yes. And she wrote a book. I'm sure she commands a fee for speaking engagements appearances on those daytime talk shows.

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by Easy on Sat Aug 24 15:17:02 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Aug 24 12:35:04 2019.

I have never reviewed the tax returns of anyone that I’ve voted for. Is doing so something that helps you decide who to vote for?

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by bingbong on Sat Aug 24 16:38:59 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Aug 23 20:47:24 2019.

When have I?

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Aug 24 16:41:00 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by Easy on Sat Aug 24 15:17:02 2019.

Exactly.

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Aug 24 21:09:48 2019, in response to Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by Mitch45 on Fri Aug 23 08:00:55 2019.



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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Aug 24 21:28:12 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 24 12:39:49 2019.

It is. But he's a hypocrite

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Aug 24 21:29:01 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by Easy on Sat Aug 24 15:17:02 2019.

Exactly. Who the hell cares!

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 24 21:31:32 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Aug 24 21:28:12 2019.

No, he’s not!

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Aug 24 21:44:44 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by Easy on Sat Aug 24 15:17:02 2019.

Never mind the whole tax-return-demand talking point having gone out the window with the end of the Mueller hopes.

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Sun Aug 25 11:57:45 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Aug 24 11:58:41 2019.

I wonder if Mueller knows where this money magically came from.

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Sun Aug 25 12:07:31 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Aug 24 13:01:25 2019.

Only Obama won this round.


I wonder if Harry Reid has Obama's tax returns in his drawers too like Romneys.

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Sun Aug 25 12:09:11 2019, in response to Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by Mitch45 on Fri Aug 23 08:00:55 2019.

I wish he was buying up all the Clintons Property.

Although in a way, that would be giving them money so that wouldn't work. But it would've been cool for Obama to finally get the last laugh there.

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by bingbong on Sun Aug 25 13:29:34 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Sun Aug 25 12:07:31 2019.

President Obama published his tax returns while he was involved in government. OTOH, trump has NOT.

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Aug 25 13:37:25 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by bingbong on Sun Aug 25 13:29:34 2019.

So?

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sun Aug 25 14:58:06 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by bingbong on Sun Aug 25 13:29:34 2019.

When did that become a requirement of being the president. Citation required.

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by bingbong on Sun Aug 25 17:55:49 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Aug 25 13:37:25 2019.

If you're looking to run the country, questioning one's basic honesty is not too much to ask. Tax returns are one way in which such gets answered. The voters have a right to know this.

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Aug 25 18:32:54 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by bingbong on Sun Aug 25 17:55:49 2019.

Except, there's no requirement, so no, there's no "right"

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by ClearAspect on Sun Aug 25 18:37:48 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Aug 25 18:32:54 2019.

True, but conservatives needed Obama to prove he was born in this country....

Soooooooo

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Aug 25 18:39:45 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by ClearAspect on Sun Aug 25 18:37:48 2019.

Only the lunatics. It's not just the lunitics now.

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Aug 25 18:41:26 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Aug 25 18:39:45 2019.

And for the record (forgetting it was clear he was a natural born citizen, as his mother was), birth in this country (natural born citizen) is a requirement, unlike tax returns

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by ClearAspect on Sun Aug 25 18:50:19 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Aug 25 18:41:26 2019.

Just to remind you the current president of this country was one of those people who pushed for it... so you mean Trump is a lunatic?

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Aug 25 18:53:10 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by ClearAspect on Sun Aug 25 18:50:19 2019.

Have I ever said he wasn't?

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by ClearAspect on Sun Aug 25 18:56:49 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Aug 25 18:53:10 2019.

Youve called him everything but... so i ask you again....

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Aug 25 19:15:16 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by ClearAspect on Sun Aug 25 18:56:49 2019.

I never said he was, never said he wasn't. He's actually far from ideal. But I see no one better coming up through the ranks.

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by ClearAspect on Sun Aug 25 19:26:22 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Aug 25 19:15:16 2019.

Its a yes or no question Chris....

Yes

Or

No.

By your own rules Trump is a lunatic cause he pushed the birther conspiracy theory and never apologized.

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by ClearAspect on Sun Aug 25 19:27:34 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Aug 25 19:15:16 2019.

And John Kasich is ONE MILLION TIMES better. For one he had ideas and plans, he is a true conservative and he has enough that he could pull liberal coters such as myself who werent happy with Hillary.

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Aug 25 19:30:47 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by ClearAspect on Sun Aug 25 19:26:22 2019.

I saw a "Black Lives MAGA" hat.

Yes Trump wanted to see a birth certificate but won't show tax returns.



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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Aug 25 19:40:59 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by ClearAspect on Sun Aug 25 19:26:22 2019.

Take from it what you wish, I said he was not ideal andno one better was coming up to plate. People can be lunatics on one issue, but not another. Take it as you wish. But it's only your inference.


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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Aug 25 19:42:27 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by ClearAspect on Sun Aug 25 19:27:34 2019.

Wonderful. I'll take your word for it. Is he in position? If not, you came even buy a cup of coffee with that.

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Aug 25 19:43:33 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by ClearAspect on Sun Aug 25 19:27:34 2019.

Wonderful. I'll take your word for it. Is he in position? If not, you cant even buy a cup of coffee with that.

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