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Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek "Alternative To China"

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Aug 23 13:52:46 2019

Actual Trump Tweet:

"Our Country has lost, stupidly, Trillions of Dollars with China over many years, They have stolen our Intellectual Property at a rate of Hundreds of Billions of Dollars a year, & they want to continue. I won’t let that happen! We don’t need China and, frankly, would be far better off without them. The vast amounts of money made and stolen by China from the United States, year after year, for decades, will and must STOP. Our great American companies are hereby ordered to immediately start looking for an alternative to China, including bringing your companies HOME and making your products in the USA."

The markets duly responded by plummeting once more, including the S&P 500. It's not just tariffs anymore. Now it's an embargo, too.



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Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China''

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 23 14:26:15 2019, in response to Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek "Alternative To China", posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Aug 23 13:52:46 2019.

InB4 "TDS."

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Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China''

Posted by Dave on Fri Aug 23 15:12:26 2019, in response to Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek "Alternative To China", posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Aug 23 13:52:46 2019.

LOL! The markets are not falling because Trump ordered U.S. companies to find an alternative to China!

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Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China''

Posted by Dyre Dan on Fri Aug 23 15:36:21 2019, in response to Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek "Alternative To China", posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Aug 23 13:52:46 2019.

Does he really believe that he can just issue "orders" to American companies about what they should do? If he thinks that, he really is a fascist, and has no understanding of what America is about.

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Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China''

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Aug 23 15:37:03 2019, in response to Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China'', posted by Dave on Fri Aug 23 15:12:26 2019.

Making fascist statements like that makes the volatility even worse.

It's called the "private sector" for a reason. Trumps seems not to understand this.

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Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China''

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Aug 23 15:37:22 2019, in response to Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China'', posted by Dyre Dan on Fri Aug 23 15:36:21 2019.

Exactly.

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Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China''

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 23 15:37:49 2019, in response to Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China'', posted by Dyre Dan on Fri Aug 23 15:36:21 2019.

I don't think he believes he can make this order. He thinks it should be implemented though, with Congress going along.

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Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China''

Posted by Easy on Fri Aug 23 15:51:07 2019, in response to Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek "Alternative To China", posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Aug 23 13:52:46 2019.

He's spot on imo.

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Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China''

Posted by ClearAspect on Fri Aug 23 15:54:01 2019, in response to Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek "Alternative To China", posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Aug 23 13:52:46 2019.

I support Trump here

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Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China''

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 23 15:58:26 2019, in response to Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China'', posted by Easy on Fri Aug 23 15:51:07 2019.

No, he's not. Except about the IP theft.

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Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China''

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Aug 23 16:03:12 2019, in response to Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China'', posted by Easy on Fri Aug 23 15:51:07 2019.

Except that the President can't "hereby order" American businesses to do anything.

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Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China''

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 23 16:03:42 2019, in response to Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China'', posted by ClearAspect on Fri Aug 23 15:54:01 2019.

I don't (except about his claim about IP theft, which is true).

I mean this is just showing why Trump might well be the worst president to me IMO. I even disagree with him when he does something that liberals like.

Thank God for his Israel policy.

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Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China''

Posted by Easy on Fri Aug 23 16:10:50 2019, in response to Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China'', posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Aug 23 16:03:12 2019.

You sure about that? I'm thinking that he can, but that they don't have to obey his order.
Either way, that part is silly, it's more the principle that I agree with.

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Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China''

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Aug 23 16:14:32 2019, in response to Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China'', posted by Easy on Fri Aug 23 16:10:50 2019.

"There's a reason the business world is known as the "private sector" -- because it's not owned or controlled by the government (aka the "public sector.") We don't have state-run industry (or media). The President of the United States can't "order" privately held business to do, well, much of anything."

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Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China''

Posted by Easy on Fri Aug 23 16:15:12 2019, in response to Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China'', posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 23 16:03:42 2019.

Unless he drags us into a useless war, he won't even be the worst president of your adulthood.

I think that this whole thing with China is why he really ran for president. He's been saying the same things about China for a long time.

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Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China''

Posted by Easy on Fri Aug 23 16:16:25 2019, in response to Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China'', posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Aug 23 16:14:32 2019.

Disagree. You or I could "hereby order" so I don't know why he couldn't.

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Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China''

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Aug 23 16:19:27 2019, in response to Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China'', posted by Easy on Fri Aug 23 16:16:25 2019.

Because you and I are not the President. Anything of this nature that Trump Tweets, is a policy statement by definition, because he's doing it in public, and in his official role as the head of state.

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Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China''

Posted by ClearAspect on Fri Aug 23 16:36:45 2019, in response to Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China'', posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 23 16:03:42 2019.

Were opposite there but I understand where you come from

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Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China''

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Aug 23 16:46:13 2019, in response to Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China'', posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Aug 23 15:37:03 2019.

Fascist!!?!? LMAO!

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Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China''

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Aug 23 16:47:08 2019, in response to Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China'', posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 23 15:37:49 2019.

Lol! Oh come on. You really have fallen 9ff the wagon

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Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China''

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Aug 23 16:47:34 2019, in response to Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China'', posted by Easy on Fri Aug 23 15:51:07 2019.

Of course he is.

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Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China''

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Aug 23 16:47:59 2019, in response to Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China'', posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Aug 23 16:03:12 2019.

He's not "ordering" anybody.

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Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China''

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Aug 23 16:48:32 2019, in response to Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China'', posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Aug 23 16:19:27 2019.

Lol!!!

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Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China''

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Aug 23 16:50:15 2019, in response to Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China'', posted by Easy on Fri Aug 23 16:15:12 2019.

Thank you for be someone reasonable around here.

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Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China''

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 23 16:56:33 2019, in response to Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China'', posted by Easy on Fri Aug 23 16:15:12 2019.

He's worse than Clinton, Bush 43, or Obama.

Hell, he's worse than Reagan and Bush 41 too. I consider him the worst president since Harding.

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Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China''

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 23 16:58:10 2019, in response to Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China'', posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Aug 23 16:46:13 2019.

It is objectively a fascist statement even though he knows it doesn't have the force of law and is just a request.

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Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China''

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Aug 23 16:59:17 2019, in response to Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China'', posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 23 16:56:33 2019.

He isn't even worse than Carter and Obama! Actually, not even Nixon!

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Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China''

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Aug 23 17:00:15 2019, in response to Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China'', posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 23 16:58:10 2019.

It's the same bait as usual, and the JZ types grab the hook.

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Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China''

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 23 17:00:37 2019, in response to Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China'', posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Aug 23 16:47:08 2019.

Are you saying I'm drunk? You don't think Trump wants to shift trade away from China? Is he Tweeting just for effect (well, he is, kind of with his use of "hereby ordered")? He obviously wants to punish China for what he reasonably believes are its bad faith actions.

You just think any criticism of Trump is TDS. All hail President Trump!

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Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China''

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 23 17:01:39 2019, in response to Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China'', posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Aug 23 17:00:15 2019.

I can partly agree with that, but don't agree in that it's not only bait. "Hereby ordered" is bait, though.

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Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China''

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 23 17:02:13 2019, in response to Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China'', posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Aug 23 16:47:34 2019.

LOL!

TDS (trade derangement syndrome)

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Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China''

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 23 17:02:35 2019, in response to Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China'', posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Aug 23 16:47:59 2019.

He's ordering fast food.

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Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China''

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 23 17:03:46 2019, in response to Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China'', posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Aug 23 16:19:27 2019.

Trump and I both swore before the Chief Justice of the United States to Support the Constitution of the United States.

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Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China''

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Fri Aug 23 17:41:26 2019, in response to Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek "Alternative To China", posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Aug 23 13:52:46 2019.

LOL Trump uses his tweets like a laser pointer and liberals act like cats 🐈. You guys are so much fun to watch.

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Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China''

Posted by 3-9 on Fri Aug 23 17:42:51 2019, in response to Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China'', posted by Easy on Fri Aug 23 16:15:12 2019.

I think that this whole thing with China is why he really ran for president.

I think you're giving him too much credit.

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Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China''

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Aug 23 18:08:24 2019, in response to Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China'', posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Aug 23 16:14:32 2019.

Does ANYBODY really think that DJT "ordered" the businesses? Of course not!!

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Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China''

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Aug 23 18:17:46 2019, in response to Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China'', posted by TRAIN DUDE on Fri Aug 23 17:41:26 2019.

That's true.

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Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China''

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Aug 23 19:17:18 2019, in response to Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China'', posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 23 17:03:46 2019.

I seriously doubt Trump has ever read the Constitution.

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Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China''

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Fri Aug 23 19:19:26 2019, in response to Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China'', posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Aug 23 19:17:18 2019.

Based on what?

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Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China''

Posted by Dutchrailnut on Fri Aug 23 19:19:56 2019, in response to Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China'', posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Aug 23 19:17:18 2019.

or anything in book form for that matter...


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Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China''

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 23 20:15:01 2019, in response to Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China'', posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Aug 23 19:17:18 2019.

I agree.

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Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek “Alternative To China”

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Aug 23 20:17:19 2019, in response to Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek "Alternative To China", posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Aug 23 13:52:46 2019.

In his own words, somebody had to do it. The sellout ends now.

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Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek “Alternative To China”

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Aug 23 20:18:14 2019, in response to Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China'', posted by TRAIN DUDE on Fri Aug 23 17:41:26 2019.

The OP shows his anti-US tendencies yet again too.

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Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China''

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Aug 23 20:40:05 2019, in response to Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China'', posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 23 17:00:37 2019.

It's the exageration. Like you really believe he is actually ordering? Lol

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Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China''

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Aug 23 20:48:29 2019, in response to Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China'', posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Aug 23 18:08:24 2019.

It gets better and better every day. Someone mentioned a cat going after the red dot of a laser pointer.

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Re: Trump “Orders” US Businesses To Seek “Alternative To China”

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Aug 23 20:50:01 2019, in response to Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China'', posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Aug 23 18:08:24 2019.

He must think that all country's leaders are dictators, like Hsi Chin-p'ing.

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Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China''

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Aug 23 21:10:25 2019, in response to Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China'', posted by TRAIN DUDE on Fri Aug 23 19:19:26 2019.

His transparently obvious ignorance of it.

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Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China''

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sat Aug 24 00:13:15 2019, in response to Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China'', posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Aug 23 21:10:25 2019.

Much like your ignorance of science, perhaps.

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Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China''

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Aug 24 05:36:45 2019, in response to Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China'', posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sat Aug 24 00:13:15 2019.

Projecting again, I see.

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Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China''

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sat Aug 24 06:24:39 2019, in response to Re: Trump Orders US Businesses To Seek ''Alternative To China'', posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Aug 24 05:36:45 2019.

Hardly, you can't even get biology straight.

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