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Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group.

Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Sun Aug 18 17:09:08 2019

Guess who helped The Squad goons Omar and Tlaib to the Land of Milk and Honey? An An anti-Semitic group called Miftah.

Something you won't see in those "reliable sources" as Jay Zee likes to believe us.

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Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group.

Posted by orange blossom special on Sun Aug 18 17:18:17 2019, in response to Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group., posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Sun Aug 18 17:09:08 2019.

I take offense. You said "an" as though they support only one group when it's always been numerous ones.

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Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group.

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 18 18:57:58 2019, in response to Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group., posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Sun Aug 18 17:09:08 2019.

The LA Times has a less bombastic assessment.

An excerpt from this mainstream source's op-ed:

"The trip of the two congresswomen was being arranged by Miftah, a nonprofit organization headed by a Palestinian lawmaker. But this isnít about what preconceived views of Israel they bring with them into Israel. This is about allowing U.S. lawmakers into Israel on an official visit. If Netanyahu is so incensed by their politics, he should invite them to meet with officials to hear his administrationís point of view."

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Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group.

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Sun Aug 18 19:18:12 2019, in response to Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group., posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 18 18:57:58 2019.

Bullshit. And I am getting sick and tired of gentiles criticizing Israel.

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Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group.

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 18 19:29:06 2019, in response to Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group., posted by Chicagomotorman on Sun Aug 18 19:18:12 2019.

Only Jews are permitted to "criticize Israel", even when the incident in question involves her treatment of members of the United States Congress?

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Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group.

Posted by AlM on Sun Aug 18 19:34:23 2019, in response to Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group., posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 18 19:29:06 2019.

You misunderstand CMM's position. Jews who criticize Israel or Netanyahu are, by definition, self-hating.


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Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group.

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 18 19:35:40 2019, in response to Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group., posted by AlM on Sun Aug 18 19:34:23 2019.

I see. Thanks for the clarification.

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Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group.

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Sun Aug 18 19:38:55 2019, in response to Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group., posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 18 19:29:06 2019.

Yes. Israel is the Jewish state.

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Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group.

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Sun Aug 18 19:39:26 2019, in response to Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group., posted by AlM on Sun Aug 18 19:34:23 2019.

I wasn't talking to you Aim.

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Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group.

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Sun Aug 18 19:39:58 2019, in response to Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group., posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 18 19:35:40 2019.

Aim does not speak for me.

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Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group.

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 18 19:46:00 2019, in response to Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group., posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 18 18:57:58 2019.

Chamberlain heeded an invitation to hear an opposing point of view on Czechoslovakia.

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Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group.

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 18 19:47:52 2019, in response to Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group., posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 18 19:29:06 2019.

If only that were the only criticism of Israel that ever gets leveled by various goyim.

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Re: Omar and Tlaib supporting an Anti-Semitic group.

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Aug 18 20:35:20 2019, in response to Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group., posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Sun Aug 18 17:09:08 2019.

At this point, it should have been old news.

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Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group.

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 18 20:39:14 2019, in response to Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group., posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 18 19:46:00 2019.

Denying two members of Congress entry into an ally's soil, has severe diplomatic repercussions. Has the US, on the request of the Israeli head of state, ever refused entry to a Knesset member?

Recall that what Trump is doing, is using the Executive Branch to interfere with the international movements of the Legislative Branch. Every member of both houses should find that extremely problematic.

That goes far beyond what Tlaib and Omar's views might be.

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Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group.

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 18 20:45:13 2019, in response to Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group., posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 18 19:47:52 2019.

Every country in the world, including the Muslim theocracies, gets hit with criticism from those outside their faith, some of it legitimate, some not so. It's part of being an actor on the global stage.

In this case, Israel, in acceding to Trump's wishes, has placed herself in s very difficult position.

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Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group.

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 18 21:27:58 2019, in response to Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group., posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 18 20:39:14 2019.

The executive branch, not legislative, has the responsibility for foreign affairs.

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Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group.

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sun Aug 18 23:01:19 2019, in response to Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group., posted by Chicagomotorman on Sun Aug 18 19:39:58 2019.

But he'd like to Try.




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Re: Omar and Tlaib supporting an Anti-Semitic group.

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Aug 18 23:03:32 2019, in response to Re: Omar and Tlaib supporting an Anti-Semitic group., posted by Olog-hai on Sun Aug 18 20:35:20 2019.

Trump is angling to run against #thesquad no matter who is opponent is.



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Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group.

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Sun Aug 18 23:38:37 2019, in response to Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group., posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sun Aug 18 23:01:19 2019.

Ikr

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Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group.

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Sun Aug 18 23:39:48 2019, in response to Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group., posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 18 20:39:14 2019.

Correct Israel is an ally of the United States. But an enemy to you.

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Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group.

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Aug 18 23:49:10 2019, in response to Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group., posted by orange blossom special on Sun Aug 18 17:18:17 2019.

Right wing radio is loving #thesquad

And Israel.

Its all RW talks about.

WMATARRRGH is on to something.

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Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group.

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Aug 19 00:40:49 2019, in response to Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group., posted by LuchAAA on Sun Aug 18 23:49:10 2019.

WMATARRRGH has been a no show. And he is uppity.

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Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group.

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 19 00:55:20 2019, in response to Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group., posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Aug 19 00:40:49 2019.

WMATARRRGH is all messed up from distance cycling.

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Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group.

Posted by 3-9 on Mon Aug 19 04:14:19 2019, in response to Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group., posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 18 20:39:14 2019.

Has the US, on the request of the Israeli head of state, ever refused entry to a Knesset member?

I thought the US did, because the guy had ties to a Jewish terrorist group.

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Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group.

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 19 06:49:03 2019, in response to Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group., posted by 3-9 on Mon Aug 19 04:14:19 2019.

PWN3D!

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Re: Omar and Tlaib supporting an Anti-Semitic group.

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 19 07:05:51 2019, in response to Re: Omar and Tlaib supporting an Anti-Semitic group., posted by LuchAAA on Sun Aug 18 23:03:32 2019.

The whole Democratic Party (and much of the GOP) is "The Squad" no matter how much they try to transparently pretend otherwise.

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Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group.

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Aug 19 07:06:30 2019, in response to Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group., posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 18 21:27:58 2019.

Yes, but Congress can, and does, travel freely of its own accord, sometimes in its role as a check on the Executive Branch.

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Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group.

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Aug 19 07:07:41 2019, in response to Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group., posted by Chicagomotorman on Sun Aug 18 23:39:48 2019.

Where did I ever say that?

Don't presume to assume.

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Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group.

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Aug 19 07:09:02 2019, in response to Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group., posted by 3-9 on Mon Aug 19 04:14:19 2019.

Which member of the Knesset was this?

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Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group.

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Aug 19 08:26:25 2019, in response to Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group., posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Aug 19 07:07:41 2019.

Oh please.

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Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group.

Posted by Avid Reader on Mon Aug 19 08:36:34 2019, in response to Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group., posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Aug 19 07:06:30 2019.

Yeah, maybe, but being a member of Congress is NOT a Diplomatic Passport!
Traveling as individuals they must obey the law of the host nation!

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Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group.

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Aug 19 08:39:12 2019, in response to Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group., posted by Avid Reader on Mon Aug 19 08:36:34 2019.

Which Israeli laws have Onar and Tlaib broken?

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Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group.

Posted by Mtk52983 on Mon Aug 19 09:16:32 2019, in response to Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group., posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Aug 19 07:09:02 2019.

I believe it was a disciple of Meir Kahane, but I am blanking on the name

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Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group.

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 19 09:31:55 2019, in response to Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group., posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Aug 19 08:39:12 2019.

Supporting BDS.

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Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group.

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 19 09:36:40 2019, in response to Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group., posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Aug 19 07:06:30 2019.

And the host country is entitled to deny said request. And while Israel later relented and allowed them to go there, Tlaib refused to comply with Israel's reasonable conditions. Why should Israel be forced to let propagandists for the enemy into their country?

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Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group.

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Aug 19 09:47:33 2019, in response to Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group., posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Aug 19 08:39:12 2019.

Any country has a right, whether they broke a law or not to deny entry into their country. I just got back from Canada. I was a guest of Canada. I did not have a right to be in Canada, I had the privilege of being allowed in Canada.

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Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group.

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Aug 19 09:48:20 2019, in response to Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group., posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 19 09:36:40 2019.

Outstanding post.

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Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group.

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Aug 19 09:54:26 2019, in response to Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group., posted by 3-9 on Mon Aug 19 04:14:19 2019.

Patriot.

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Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group.

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Aug 19 10:06:40 2019, in response to Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group., posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Aug 19 09:47:33 2019.

Are you a member of Congress, though?

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Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group.

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 19 10:09:03 2019, in response to Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group., posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Aug 19 10:06:40 2019.

It doesn't make a difference. Members of Congress are not diplomats.

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Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group.

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 19 10:10:49 2019, in response to Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group., posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Aug 19 09:54:26 2019.

Thank you.

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Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group.

Posted by AlM on Mon Aug 19 10:14:51 2019, in response to Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group., posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 19 09:36:40 2019.

Why should Israel be forced to let propagandists for the enemy into their country?

They can do as they please. It just looks bad because they only made the decision after Trump told them to make it.





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Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group.

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 19 10:19:03 2019, in response to Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group., posted by AlM on Mon Aug 19 10:14:51 2019.

IAWTP. But after they came to their senses, Tlaib refused Israel's reasonable conditions.

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Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group.

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Aug 19 10:21:42 2019, in response to Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group., posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 19 10:09:03 2019.

True, but denying them entry to another country could become a diplomatic problem.

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Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group.

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 19 10:22:09 2019, in response to Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group., posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Aug 19 10:21:42 2019.

That's unlikely given who controls the State Department.

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Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group.

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Aug 19 10:35:36 2019, in response to Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group., posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Aug 19 10:06:40 2019.

So what?

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Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group.

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 19 10:36:54 2019, in response to Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group., posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Aug 19 10:35:36 2019.

IAWTP

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Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group.

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Aug 19 10:38:46 2019, in response to Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group., posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 19 10:36:54 2019.

Thank you.

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Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group.

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Aug 19 10:40:41 2019, in response to Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group., posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 19 10:19:03 2019.

On the premise that members of Congress, regardless of their views, should not need special "conditions" to travel abroad.

Again, if the Executive can get another head of state to refuse entry to members of the Legislature, that is a serious problem for all Congresspeople.

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Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group.

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Aug 19 10:41:10 2019, in response to Re: Omar and Tliab supporting an Anti-Semitic group., posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 19 10:22:09 2019.

We'll see how that plays out.

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