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Posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Aug 11 02:55:19 2019, in response to Sabbath observations, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Aug 11 01:56:44 2019. Thanks |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Aug 11 07:20:48 2019, in response to Sabbath observations, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Aug 11 01:56:44 2019. Taking the stairs instead of elevator. Good workout.Sabbath elevators preclude the workout. |
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Posted by SLRT on Sun Aug 11 09:30:55 2019, in response to Re: Sabbath observations, posted by AlM on Sun Aug 11 07:20:48 2019. Where you have them. |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Mon Aug 12 10:38:29 2019, in response to Sabbath observations, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Aug 11 01:56:44 2019. It's a werid observation, but I like the idea of not touching the switches or anything to use the bathroom. You'd think it's just a small thing, but it really makes a dif. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 12 12:00:51 2019, in response to Re: Sabbath observations, posted by orange blossom special on Mon Aug 12 10:38:29 2019. @orange blossom specialI just noticed that a few apartments leave the bathroom light on. I should know because I have turned on lights before. Even an oven. #housegoy 15 years ago a lady asked if I'm Jewish because she saw me taking stairs all the way to 6th floor. I think it's good for society to have such people. cc: Terrapin Station KFM chicagomotorman Nilet Spider-Pig |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 12 12:10:28 2019, in response to Re: Sabbath observations, posted by AlM on Sun Aug 11 07:20:48 2019. @AlMFew buildings have one. If they do they must be blessed by a rabbi. |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Mon Aug 12 13:04:11 2019, in response to Re: Sabbath observations, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 12 12:00:51 2019. Well, like some guy reminded me about 2 years ago, in the North the bathrooms have windows. Our corporate sunbelt apartments put the bathrooms so deep inside that no light makes it that far.Since I put LED's in, I get tempted just to leave the light on during the day as I work my way into the bowels of my dwelling. But force of habit always gets the best of me. Don't forget to disable the refrigerator light bulb too. |
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Posted by cortelyounext on Mon Aug 12 13:04:37 2019, in response to Re: Sabbath observations, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 12 12:00:51 2019. JayZeeBMT just defeated me in the Gay Day thread. In hindsight, I let foolish pride influence my better judgement so I went after him - I really had no business getting involved in that one and I got beat. Then again, that outcome should come as no surprise to anyone since I am on the losing end of pretty much every thread I enter except those that discuss the Bruckner Interchange in the Bronx and the 238th Street - Neried Avenue Station and the flyover re. the 239th Street yard leads. Those I can win routinely and I do. |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Mon Aug 12 13:07:25 2019, in response to Re: Sabbath observations, posted by SLRT on Sun Aug 11 09:30:55 2019. I saw my first one of those 2 weeks ago while on a trip. I can image the expense of having that thing run continuously for a day. Unless it had a timer.It was only for 2 floors. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 12 13:16:25 2019, in response to Re: Sabbath observations, posted by orange blossom special on Mon Aug 12 13:04:11 2019. Yup. That is how I noticed. In apartment buildings rooms are in a line. Just look up and down.In the winter windows are open due to excessive heating. Remember the clapper? Turn light on and off by clapping. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 12 13:17:57 2019, in response to Re: Sabbath observations, posted by cortelyounext on Mon Aug 12 13:04:37 2019. @Cortelyounext@Jayzeebmt That was a great exchange. Wait until you see a thread I am working on. Actually two. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 12 13:18:19 2019, in response to Re: Sabbath observations, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 12 13:16:25 2019. The clapper has been replaced with Alexa. |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Mon Aug 12 13:27:22 2019, in response to Re: Sabbath observations, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 12 13:16:25 2019. I still want the clapper.I feel bad for people who want to have a conversation with a device instead of hitting a swtich. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Aug 12 13:40:02 2019, in response to Re: Sabbath observations, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 12 13:18:19 2019. Interesting about Alexa. Can Orthodox observants use Alexa to turn a light on or off (I mean all you are really doing is speaking). |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Aug 12 13:41:15 2019, in response to Re: Sabbath observations, posted by orange blossom special on Mon Aug 12 13:04:11 2019. What about motion sensor lights? You are technically turning the light on by moving, but you aren't doing any extra work in so doing. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 12 13:44:38 2019, in response to Re: Sabbath observations, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 12 13:18:19 2019. Is it Sabbath compliant? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 12 13:55:52 2019, in response to Re: Sabbath observations, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Aug 12 13:40:02 2019. Absolutely not. |
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Posted by cortelyounext on Mon Aug 12 13:56:00 2019, in response to Re: Sabbath observations, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 12 13:17:57 2019. That was a great exchange.Yes, it was, but the fact remains I still lost. Even to the casual observer, I have been losing Gay Day threads at an alarming almost inconceivable rate anyone can see that. I learned a valuable lesson this afternoon and that is this: You go after JayZeeBMT or the Pragmatist in a Gay Day thread in mid-August and do not expect anything good to come of it. Wait until you see a thread I am working on. You just raised expectations to a level that nobody can hope to achieve - I suggest next time you ratchet it down a little. I just noticed the RIPTA42hopetunnel just began a New Flyer thread on the other board. Those are right in my wheelhouse so I think I am going over there and attack. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 12 13:56:12 2019, in response to Re: Sabbath observations, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Aug 12 13:41:15 2019. Also absolutely not! |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 12 13:59:36 2019, in response to Re: Sabbath observations, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 12 13:44:38 2019. No. Orthodox Jews probably have to shut off Alexa to prevent accidentally triggering it on the Sabbath. Also, as it's "always on," even if it doesn't get triggered it's constantly processing sound that you generate not just by talking but by just walking around. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 12 14:04:35 2019, in response to Re: Sabbath observations, posted by cortelyounext on Mon Aug 12 13:56:00 2019. @CortelyounextBoth threads will be amazing like The Mets. |
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Posted by Dave on Mon Aug 12 14:16:01 2019, in response to Re: Sabbath observations, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 12 12:10:28 2019. If they do they must be blessed by a rabbi.Not correct. But they do need to be signed off by the elevator inspector or the relevant municipal authority before being put into use. |
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Posted by Dave on Mon Aug 12 14:17:52 2019, in response to Re: Sabbath observations, posted by orange blossom special on Mon Aug 12 13:04:11 2019. Some refrigeeators and ovens have Sabbath modes that disable the light when the door is opened. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 12 15:38:12 2019, in response to Re: Sabbath observations, posted by Dave on Mon Aug 12 14:16:01 2019. @dave@obs @Spider-Pig @Wmata @RIPTA @KFM @CMM I think to label a "Sabbath elevator" it has to be approved by a rabbi like "kosher". |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 12 15:46:22 2019, in response to Re: Sabbath observations, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 12 15:38:12 2019. Absolutely not. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 12 15:50:45 2019, in response to Re: Sabbath observations, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 12 15:46:22 2019. @spider-pig @Dave @CMM @mtk52983I was told otherwise. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Aug 12 15:51:03 2019, in response to Re: Sabbath observations, posted by SLRT on Sun Aug 11 09:30:55 2019. Beth Israel Hospital, for example. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 12 15:56:52 2019, in response to Re: Sabbath observations, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 12 15:50:45 2019. By whom? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 12 16:00:04 2019, in response to Re: Sabbath observations, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 12 15:56:52 2019. By Jewish people.Once at a hospital once in an apartment building. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 12 16:00:28 2019, in response to Re: Sabbath observations, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 12 15:56:52 2019. By Jewish people.Once at a hospital once in an apartment building. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 12 16:00:28 2019, in response to Re: Sabbath observations, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 12 15:56:52 2019. By Jewish people.Once at a hospital once in an apartment building. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 12 16:04:59 2019, in response to Re: Sabbath observations, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 12 16:00:04 2019. They were misinformed. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 12 16:13:27 2019, in response to Re: Sabbath observations, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 12 16:04:59 2019. I am winning all arguments about religion, diet, women, exercise, politics. |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Mon Aug 12 16:15:14 2019, in response to Re: Sabbath observations, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 12 16:13:27 2019. Youve lost to me and have yet to win luch |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 12 16:15:15 2019, in response to Re: Sabbath observations, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 12 16:13:27 2019. You’re losing this one. Facts are facts. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 12 16:16:23 2019, in response to Re: Sabbath observations, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 12 16:15:15 2019. @spider-pigI am doing just fine. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 12 16:17:27 2019, in response to Re: Sabbath observations, posted by ClearAspect on Mon Aug 12 16:15:14 2019. @ClearaspectI never debated you. I have wins over many but don't debate you. |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Mon Aug 12 16:19:46 2019, in response to Re: Sabbath observations, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 12 16:17:27 2019. You cower and cant produce facts and run away.I always w1n against you |
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Posted by Dave on Mon Aug 12 16:34:24 2019, in response to Re: Sabbath observations, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 12 15:38:12 2019. There's a difference between "blessed" and "approved." The latter ensures that the elevator does not require human intervention for use during Sabbath or Jewish holidays, i.e., complies with the requirements of not doing any of the 39 categories of work prohibited by Jewish law during the Sabbath. The elevator does not require a blessing. |
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Posted by Dave on Mon Aug 12 16:36:35 2019, in response to Re: Sabbath observations, posted by Dave on Mon Aug 12 16:34:24 2019. By "approved" I meant by an Orthodox rabbi familiar with how Sabbath-compliant elevators are constructed and operate. I wasn't referring to the elevator inspectors who also must approve the installation and operation. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 12 16:37:37 2019, in response to Re: Sabbath observations, posted by Dave on Mon Aug 12 16:34:24 2019. @DaveThanks. You would be in awe of face to face threads I am winning. Sex Diet Religion Crime Testosterone Exercise |
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Posted by Kevin from Midwood on Mon Aug 12 16:49:48 2019, in response to Re: Sabbath observations, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 12 16:37:37 2019. What is the upshot of winning a face-to-face thread? The other person walks away feeling defeated? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 12 16:51:35 2019, in response to Re: Sabbath observations, posted by Kevin from Midwood on Mon Aug 12 16:49:48 2019. Or takes dietary advice from me. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Aug 12 17:00:13 2019, in response to Re: Sabbath observations, posted by Dave on Mon Aug 12 16:34:24 2019. But if someone installs an elevator with a switch that allows it to be operated so that it stops at every floor without anyone taking any positive action, and then turns that switch on before every Sabbath, and never discusses this whole process with any rabbi, it's still OK to use that elevator on the Sabbath, is it not? |
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Posted by Dave on Mon Aug 12 17:11:38 2019, in response to Re: Sabbath observations, posted by AlM on Mon Aug 12 17:00:13 2019. Are we talking about a Sabbath-compliant elevator that was inspected and approved by a rabbi before first being used? Or someone who installs such a switch without rabbinical inspection? The latter case probably would not be okay but having said that, it might depend upon the circumstances. For example, if a Chassidic rabbinical leader had such an elevator installed in his home, he probably wouldn't need outsude rabbinical inspection because he's familiar with the intricases of Jewish Law regarding working on the Sabbath. He could inspect the work and operation himself...maybe. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 12 17:11:58 2019, in response to Re: Sabbath observations, posted by AlM on Mon Aug 12 17:00:13 2019. But how would you know? |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Mon Aug 12 17:17:29 2019, in response to Sabbath observations, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Aug 11 01:56:44 2019. I've been doing that for years.I don't use Shabbos elevators unless I need to go to a high floor. When I was in Florida in 2006 and we went to visit my wife's cousins who lived on the 9th floor of their condo, I used the Shabbos elevator. Not otherwise. |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Mon Aug 12 17:19:57 2019, in response to Re: Sabbath observations, posted by Mitch45 on Mon Aug 12 17:17:29 2019. I never saw a shabbos respecting elevator until I went to a hospital, never knew it existed. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 12 17:21:21 2019, in response to Re: Sabbath observations, posted by Mitch45 on Mon Aug 12 17:17:29 2019. I think shabbos elevators should run nonstop in one direction. Do you think it should be up or down? I think up. |
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