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Re: Liberal Subchatter logic

Posted by ClearAspect on Thu Jul 11 11:01:19 2019, in response to Re: Liberal Subchatter logic, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 11 10:49:46 2019.

Bad argument doesnt make it anyless incorrect.

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Re: Liberal Subchatter logic

Posted by ClearAspect on Thu Jul 11 11:02:10 2019, in response to Re: Liberal Subchatter logic, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 11 10:49:12 2019.

I know but conservatives dont by large.

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Re: Liberal Subchatter logic

Posted by ClearAspect on Thu Jul 11 11:02:32 2019, in response to Re: Liberal Subchatter logic, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Jul 11 09:37:39 2019.

Is that what you do a lot? Whataboutism?

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Re: Liberal Subchatter logic

Posted by Mtk52983 on Thu Jul 11 11:52:48 2019, in response to Re: Liberal Subchatter logic, posted by ClearAspect on Thu Jul 11 11:00:54 2019.

Good to know you think that those with a disability should be aborted.

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Re: Conservative Subchatter Logic

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Jul 11 11:57:56 2019, in response to Conservative Subchatter Logic, posted by ClearAspect on Wed Jul 10 14:01:27 2019.

WHAT ABOUT AMERICAS HOMELESS???

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Re: Conservative Subchatter Logic

Posted by mtk52983 on Thu Jul 11 12:03:07 2019, in response to Re: Conservative Subchatter Logic, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Jul 11 11:57:56 2019.

You don't want to be homeless, get a job

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Re: Conservative Subchatter Logic

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Jul 11 12:09:24 2019, in response to Re: Conservative Subchatter Logic, posted by mtk52983 on Thu Jul 11 12:03:07 2019.

AND IF YOUR JOB DOES NOT PAY ENOUGH RENT MONEY ?
AND THERE IS NO JOBS THAT DO ??
NOW WHAT ??

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Re: Conservative Subchatter Logic

Posted by mtk52983 on Thu Jul 11 12:33:15 2019, in response to Re: Conservative Subchatter Logic, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Jul 11 12:09:24 2019.

Commute or move to somewhere that job pays enough. Also cut down on luxuries. Not everyone needs the newest iPhone.

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Re: Liberal Subchatter logic

Posted by AlM on Thu Jul 11 12:58:14 2019, in response to Re: Liberal Subchatter logic, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Jul 11 09:16:17 2019.

It's not cut and dried but it is religious.

Everyone actually agrees that "life" begins at conception - surely a fertilized egg is a living creature, just like a fly is.

What people don't agree on is whether it is a human being, just like they don't agree on whether a fly might be a former human being. That is an entirely religious disagreement.

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Re: Conservative Subchatter Logic

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Jul 11 13:16:16 2019, in response to Re: Conservative Subchatter Logic, posted by mtk52983 on Thu Jul 11 12:33:15 2019.

COMMUTE TO WHERE AND WITH WHAT ???
HOW ?????????????????????????????????????????
HOMELESS PEOPLE ARE OUT IN THE STREETS
AND DIE

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Re: Conservative Subchatter Logic

Posted by mtk52983 on Thu Jul 11 13:20:33 2019, in response to Re: Conservative Subchatter Logic, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Jul 11 13:16:16 2019.

Public transportation from a shelter

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Re: Liberal Subchatter logic

Posted by Express Rider on Thu Jul 11 13:37:29 2019, in response to Re: Liberal Subchatter logic, posted by AlM on Thu Jul 11 12:58:14 2019.

re: ... whether a fly might be a former human being.
Vincent Price knew all about this.

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Re: Liberal Subchatter logic

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 11 13:38:06 2019, in response to Re: Liberal Subchatter logic, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Jul 11 08:11:33 2019.

Figures

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Re: Liberal Subchatter logic

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 11 13:38:35 2019, in response to Re: Liberal Subchatter logic, posted by ClearAspect on Thu Jul 11 08:13:04 2019.

IDWTP

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Re: Liberal Subchatter logic

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Thu Jul 11 13:50:39 2019, in response to Re: Liberal Subchatter logic, posted by Edwards! on Thu Jul 11 09:22:00 2019.

It wasn't a problem when scumbama kept kids in cages just as deporting illegals was not a problem when scumbama was in the White House. Democrats would have shit all over themselves if conservatives gave advice to illegals on how to avoid the scumbama deportee patrols

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Re: Conservative Subchatter Logic

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Jul 11 13:53:35 2019, in response to Re: Conservative Subchatter Logic, posted by mtk52983 on Thu Jul 11 13:20:33 2019.

YOU ARE SO FULL OF SHIT

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Re: Liberal Subchatter logic

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Jul 11 14:43:57 2019, in response to Re: Liberal Subchatter logic, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 11 13:38:35 2019.

Well Thank you!!

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Re: Conservative Subchatter Logic

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Jul 11 14:47:14 2019, in response to Re: Conservative Subchatter Logic, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Jul 11 13:53:35 2019.

Then he better take Ex Lax.

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Re: Conservative Subchatter Logic

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jul 11 14:47:58 2019, in response to Re: Conservative Subchatter Logic, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Jul 11 13:16:16 2019.

What he's trying to say is that it's their own fault that they are in the situation that they're in.

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Re: Liberal Subchatter logic

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 11 15:05:57 2019, in response to Re: Liberal Subchatter logic, posted by Mtk52983 on Thu Jul 11 11:52:48 2019.

I have no problem so long as it’s done early.

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Re: Liberal Subchatter logic

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 11 15:05:57 2019, in response to Re: Liberal Subchatter logic, posted by Mtk52983 on Thu Jul 11 11:52:48 2019.

I have no problem so long as it’s done early.

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Re: Liberal Subchatter logic

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 11 15:06:32 2019, in response to Re: Liberal Subchatter logic, posted by ClearAspect on Thu Jul 11 11:01:19 2019.

I disagree. The choice argument is a loser. Us pro-abortion types need to stop with it.

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Re: Conservative Subchatter Logic

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 11 15:09:19 2019, in response to Re: Conservative Subchatter Logic, posted by mtk52983 on Thu Jul 11 12:33:15 2019.

Please. Smartphones aren’t a luxury. And the newest iPhone costs less than a month’s rent.

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Re: Liberal Subchatter logic

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 11 15:09:58 2019, in response to Re: Liberal Subchatter logic, posted by AlM on Thu Jul 11 12:58:14 2019.

I don’t.

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Re: Liberal Subchatter logic

Posted by AlM on Thu Jul 11 15:15:09 2019, in response to Re: Liberal Subchatter logic, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 11 15:09:58 2019.

You don't what? Surely you believe a fertilized egg is living. You believe a tomato plant is living, don't you?

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Re: Liberal Subchatter logic

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Jul 11 15:16:27 2019, in response to Re: Liberal Subchatter logic, posted by AlM on Thu Jul 11 12:58:14 2019.

A fly? I mean really.

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Re: Liberal Subchatter logic

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 11 15:21:12 2019, in response to Re: Liberal Subchatter logic, posted by AlM on Thu Jul 11 15:15:09 2019.

I don’t agree that life begins at fertilization.

By your logic, identical twins constitute a single organism. No one believes that.

The gametes are living cells as well.

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Re: Liberal Subchatter logic

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 11 15:22:27 2019, in response to Re: Liberal Subchatter logic, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Jul 11 15:16:27 2019.

Exactly. You can’t compare an obvious fiction with reality.

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Re: Liberal Subchatter logic

Posted by AlM on Thu Jul 11 15:24:55 2019, in response to Re: Liberal Subchatter logic, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 11 15:21:12 2019.

You don't agree that human life begins at fertilization.

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Re: Liberal Subchatter logic

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Jul 11 15:25:45 2019, in response to Re: Liberal Subchatter logic, posted by AlM on Thu Jul 11 15:15:09 2019.

Seriously? A tomato?

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Re: Liberal Subchatter logic

Posted by AlM on Thu Jul 11 15:27:20 2019, in response to Re: Liberal Subchatter logic, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 11 15:22:27 2019.

What is your point?

People who believe in reincarnation believe that a human could be reincarnated as a another creature just as fervently as fundamentalist Christians believe that human life begins at conception.

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Re: Liberal Subchatter logic

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Jul 11 15:27:23 2019, in response to Re: Liberal Subchatter logic, posted by AlM on Thu Jul 11 15:24:55 2019.

So what is it? Canine? A tree?


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Re: Liberal Subchatter logic

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Jul 11 15:28:54 2019, in response to Re: Liberal Subchatter logic, posted by AlM on Thu Jul 11 15:27:20 2019.

You just make your argument weaker by attempting to compare obvious absurdity like a fly or a tomato to human DNA.

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Re: Liberal Subchatter logic

Posted by AlM on Thu Jul 11 15:29:25 2019, in response to Re: Liberal Subchatter logic, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Jul 11 15:16:27 2019.

OK, fine, you scoff at people who believe in reincarnation. I don't believe in it.

But are you denying that there are people who do believe in it, or are you saying those people are just beyond the pale?

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Re: Liberal Subchatter logic

Posted by AlM on Thu Jul 11 15:30:50 2019, in response to Re: Liberal Subchatter logic, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Jul 11 15:28:54 2019.

???

Do you deny that all three are living?

Do you deny that some people think, however misguidedly, that a human being can be reincarnated as a much lesser creature?

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Re: Liberal Subchatter logic

Posted by AlM on Thu Jul 11 15:31:29 2019, in response to Re: Liberal Subchatter logic, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Jul 11 15:27:23 2019.

It's a fertilized egg.

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Re: Liberal Subchatter logic

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Jul 11 15:35:17 2019, in response to Re: Liberal Subchatter logic, posted by AlM on Thu Jul 11 15:30:50 2019.

Comparing a food item or insect to anything human DNA doesn't help your argument.
Reincarnation can not be remotely proven. It's about as hard to do as proving God exists. However, you can not deny that a combined sperm and egg to become a person.

All your alleged "examples" are apples and oranges.

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Re: Liberal Subchatter logic

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 11 15:36:06 2019, in response to Re: Liberal Subchatter logic, posted by AlM on Thu Jul 11 15:30:50 2019.

We might reincarnate as a plant.

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Re: Liberal Subchatter logic

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Jul 11 15:36:34 2019, in response to Re: Liberal Subchatter logic, posted by AlM on Thu Jul 11 15:31:29 2019.

Which is the beginnings of a person. A fly 8a not. A tomato is not. A tree 8s not.

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Re: Liberal Subchatter logic

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Jul 11 15:36:49 2019, in response to Re: Liberal Subchatter logic, posted by AlM on Thu Jul 11 15:31:29 2019.

Which is the beginnings of a person. A fly is not. A tomato is not. A tree is not.

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Re: Liberal Subchatter logic

Posted by AlM on Thu Jul 11 15:39:45 2019, in response to Re: Liberal Subchatter logic, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Jul 11 15:35:17 2019.

What is your point?

I assert is that a fertilized egg, a fly, and a tomato plant are all alive. Do you disagree?

I agree that reincarnation cannot remotely be proven. I agree that it is an absurd theory. I assert that some people believe in it however. Do you disagree?

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Re: Liberal Subchatter logic

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Jul 11 15:40:08 2019, in response to Re: Liberal Subchatter logic, posted by AlM on Thu Jul 11 15:29:25 2019.

I never said anything about believing it or not. I just said there's no way to prove it. It's apples and oranges to the beginnings of human life. You CAN prove that once combined, it does eventually grow into a person. There's no parallel to reincarnation beliefs. You may as well attempt to compare it to a ghost or vampire

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Re: Liberal Subchatter logic

Posted by AlM on Thu Jul 11 15:40:30 2019, in response to Re: Liberal Subchatter logic, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Jul 11 15:36:49 2019.

True. And?

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Re: Liberal Subchatter logic

Posted by AlM on Thu Jul 11 15:41:32 2019, in response to Re: Liberal Subchatter logic, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Jul 11 15:40:08 2019.

I just said there's no way to prove it.

And? I never disagreed with that.




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Re: Liberal Subchatter logic

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Jul 11 15:42:03 2019, in response to Re: Liberal Subchatter logic, posted by AlM on Thu Jul 11 15:40:30 2019.

So the attempt at the portrayal of the absurd, comparing tomato or fly as a parallel does nothing to help your argument.

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Re: Liberal Subchatter logic

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 11 15:46:10 2019, in response to Re: Liberal Subchatter logic, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Jul 11 15:36:49 2019.

Actually plants have feelings. They are intelligent.

That is how they evolved and survived.

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Re: Liberal Subchatter logic

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Jul 11 15:46:16 2019, in response to Re: Liberal Subchatter logic, posted by AlM on Thu Jul 11 15:39:45 2019.

The fact that some people believe 8n reincarnation has absolutely nothing to do with when human life begins. It's not tangible. The fact that a fertilized egg becomes a person IS tangible.

As for the tomato, tree, and fly, stop. You are only making your argument silly by the attempt. Squash all the tomatoes you want.

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Re: Liberal Subchatter logic

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Jul 11 15:46:56 2019, in response to Re: Liberal Subchatter logic, posted by AlM on Thu Jul 11 15:41:32 2019.

One is tangible, the other is not

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Re: Liberal Subchatter logic

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Jul 11 15:48:39 2019, in response to Re: Liberal Subchatter logic, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 11 15:46:10 2019.

Maybe. Perhaps. Not tangible though to prove.
Animals, yes. That is tangible.

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Re: Liberal Subchatter logic

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 11 15:54:12 2019, in response to Re: Liberal Subchatter logic, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Jul 11 15:48:39 2019.

Ok. Well in hipster Bushwick, I'd say "PlantLivesMatter" and own the argument.

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