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Anyone who makes a right hand turn around buses should have their licences revoked |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Jun 11 08:14:28 2019 That is all. |
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Re: Anyone who makes a right hand turn around buses should have their licences revoked |
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Posted by Easy on Tue Jun 11 08:47:02 2019, in response to Anyone who makes a right hand turn around buses should have their licences revoked, posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Jun 11 08:14:28 2019. It’s a gray area. Kind of depends on how close the stop is to the corner doesn’t it? |
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Re: Anyone who makes a right hand turn around buses should have their licences revoked |
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Posted by Easy on Tue Jun 11 08:47:13 2019, in response to Anyone who makes a right hand turn around buses should have their licences revoked, posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Jun 11 08:14:28 2019. Buschat! |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 11 08:49:46 2019, in response to Anyone who makes a right hand turn around buses should have their licences revoked, posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Jun 11 08:14:28 2019. This is why I hate bus stops on the near side of the intersection. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Jun 11 09:02:44 2019, in response to Re: Anyone who makes a right hand turn around buses should have their licences revoked, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 11 08:49:46 2019. OK. What about the convenience of the passengers? |
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Posted by WayneJay on Tue Jun 11 09:07:31 2019, in response to Re: Anyone who makes a right hand turn around buses should have their licences revoked, posted by Easy on Tue Jun 11 08:47:02 2019. Agreed! Also with WMATA buses it's easy to know if they're about to move because when the doors are open they trigger the hazard flashers. Of course that doesn't protect against a pedestrian suddenly appearing from in front of the bus. |
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Re: Anyone who makes a right hand turn around buses should have their licences revoked |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Jun 11 09:11:55 2019, in response to Re: Anyone who makes a right hand turn around buses should have their licences revoked, posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Jun 11 09:02:44 2019. Isn't that 50-50? Some prefer the near side, some prefer the far side. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Jun 11 09:18:53 2019, in response to Re: Anyone who makes a right hand turn around buses should have their licences revoked, posted by AlM on Tue Jun 11 09:11:55 2019. True enough, Some far sides might be too dangerous to have. Such as parking lots, gas stations. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 11 09:26:41 2019, in response to Re: Anyone who makes a right hand turn around buses should have their licences revoked, posted by AlM on Tue Jun 11 09:11:55 2019. Why would it matter? |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Jun 11 09:29:02 2019, in response to Re: Anyone who makes a right hand turn around buses should have their licences revoked, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 11 09:26:41 2019. If the bus stop is at the far side of the intersection but your destination is at the near side, first you have to wait for the bus to get through the light, and then you have to go back across the street that the bus just crossed. Such passengers would greatly prefer the bus stop to be on the near side. |
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Re: Anyone who makes a right hand turn around buses should have their licences revoked |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jun 11 09:35:47 2019, in response to Anyone who makes a right hand turn around buses should have their licences revoked, posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Jun 11 08:14:28 2019. Around buses?You should come to Philly. People here make right turns around trolleys. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Jun 11 10:38:59 2019, in response to Re: Anyone who makes a right hand turn around buses should have their licences revoked, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jun 11 09:35:47 2019. They too their have licenses revoked. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Jun 11 10:39:53 2019, in response to Anyone who makes a right hand turn around buses should have their licences revoked, posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Jun 11 08:14:28 2019. Corrected. Spelled licenses incorrectly. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jun 11 10:49:49 2019, in response to Re: Anyone who makes a right hand turn around buses should have their licences revoked, posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Jun 11 10:38:59 2019. There was just a nasty accident not too long ago, where some fool turned left, directly into the path of a Girard Ave. trolley.The car got batted all the way across the intersection, with its frame nicely bent. The old PCC was back in service out of Callowhill just three days later. People never learn. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Jun 11 11:02:33 2019, in response to Re: Anyone who makes a right hand turn around buses should have their licences revoked, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jun 11 10:49:49 2019. Did that accident happen with the rebuilt PCC-II Brookville trolley? If so, it was recently, 2005 ,onward. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue Jun 11 15:56:10 2019, in response to Re: Anyone who makes a right hand turn around buses should have their licences revoked, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 11 09:26:41 2019. If I intend to cross the street the bus is operating on, being on the near side puts me closer to the crosswalk than the far side (far side stops are usually quite a few feet in compared to near side stops right at the light). Even if I ultimately needed to go to the diagonally opposite corner, It's still faster to cross twice from the near side than once from the far side. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Jun 11 15:59:16 2019, in response to Re: Anyone who makes a right hand turn around buses should have their licences revoked, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue Jun 11 15:56:10 2019. This assumes you get off the bus at the front.If you get off the back door of a 3-door bus, the reverse is true. I will refrain from any Albany jokes. :) |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Tue Jun 11 16:01:48 2019, in response to Re: Anyone who makes a right hand turn around buses should have their licenses revoked, posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Jun 11 10:39:53 2019. Would you correct the grammar next? |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue Jun 11 18:59:48 2019, in response to Re: Anyone who makes a right hand turn around buses should have their licences revoked, posted by AlM on Tue Jun 11 15:59:16 2019. We actually have 3 door buses, almost 10 of them! (arrgh). Still though, the front door is right at the crosswalk, while the back door is maybe 25 feet behind. The rear door of a 40' bus has the other 15', combined with 25 more feet because the front of the stop is 65' from the curb to accommodate longer buses. The possibility of 0' / 25' on one side versus 40' / 65' on the other side means lots more walkin. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue Jun 11 19:01:45 2019, in response to Re: Anyone who makes a right hand turn around buses should have their licences revoked, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue Jun 11 18:59:48 2019. Ok that was clear as mud because I can't words for some reason:Stopping on the near side: The front door is right at the crosswalk, while the back door is maybe 25 feet behind. Stopping on the far side: The rear door of a 40' bus has the other 15', combined with 25 more feet because the front of the stop is 65' from the curb to accommodate longer buses. The possibility of 0' / 25' on the near side versus 40' / 65' on the far side means lots more walkin. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Jun 11 22:37:57 2019, in response to Re: Anyone who makes a right hand turn around buses should have their licences revoked, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue Jun 11 19:01:45 2019. OK, that makes sense. I'll believe you that the back door is still 25' in front of the back of the bus.Though my experience in NYC is that if a bus stop is really long the bus stops just far enough in to clear the crosswalk with its rear. Even sometimes when there is a second bus right behind! |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jun 11 22:48:49 2019, in response to Re: Anyone who makes a right hand turn around buses should have their licences revoked, posted by AlM on Tue Jun 11 22:37:57 2019. that's an interesting observation.I wonder what the rulebook says about stopping in a long stop? I'm guessing it's easier for the bus to leave the bus stop as you describe closer to the crosswalk with plenty of room in front. |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Fri Jun 14 10:21:22 2019, in response to Anyone who makes a right hand turn around buses should have their licences revoked, posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Jun 11 08:14:28 2019. What makes you think they all even have an active license to begin with?If you knew how many people around you didn't have one of those, well, you'd probably want a wall then. |
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