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This will be interesting, if true

Posted by Dave on Mon Jun 10 16:59:16 2019


Reaching for the popcorn


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Re: This will be interesting, if true

Posted by Easy on Mon Jun 10 17:28:57 2019, in response to This will be interesting, if true, posted by Dave on Mon Jun 10 16:59:16 2019.

When did primary become a verb?

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Re: This will be interesting, if true

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jun 10 17:40:38 2019, in response to Re: This will be interesting, if true, posted by Easy on Mon Jun 10 17:28:57 2019.

when politicos started reading OTchat.

We used it as a verb first.

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Re: This will be interesting, if true

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 10 18:18:49 2019, in response to Re: This will be interesting, if true, posted by Easy on Mon Jun 10 17:28:57 2019.

Everything gets verbed. That's how English speakers language.

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Re: This will be interesting, if true

Posted by 3-9 on Mon Jun 10 19:23:20 2019, in response to This will be interesting, if true, posted by Dave on Mon Jun 10 16:59:16 2019.

She can try but I don't think she'll succeed, unless Schumer gets caught in a criminal act.

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Re: This will be interesting, if true

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jun 10 19:48:56 2019, in response to Re: This will be interesting, if true, posted by 3-9 on Mon Jun 10 19:23:20 2019.

If she can w1n upset imagine now that she is a huge star.

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Re: This will be interesting, if true

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon Jun 10 20:05:41 2019, in response to This will be interesting, if true, posted by Dave on Mon Jun 10 16:59:16 2019.

Of course she has to survive until 2022

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Re: This will be interesting, if true

Posted by AlM on Mon Jun 10 20:19:51 2019, in response to Re: This will be interesting, if true, posted by 3-9 on Mon Jun 10 19:23:20 2019.

IAWTP. She wouldn't have a chance.

Same with the guy claiming he'll challenge Nadler in 2020.



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Re: This will be interesting, if true

Posted by AlM on Mon Jun 10 20:21:16 2019, in response to Re: This will be interesting, if true, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 10 18:18:49 2019.

I still object to interface as a verb, though I've learned to accept impact. :)




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Re: This will be interesting, if true

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Jun 10 23:13:34 2019, in response to This will be interesting, if true, posted by Dave on Mon Jun 10 16:59:16 2019.

Unlikely, but if she were to unseat Chuck the Dems would have once again illustrated their prowess in snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. We'd have another Republican senator (especially since it would be 2022, and Gen Z would be voting).

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Re: This will be interesting, if true

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jun 10 23:54:57 2019, in response to This will be interesting, if true, posted by Dave on Mon Jun 10 16:59:16 2019.

Well, *I'LL* never vote for her!

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Re: This will be interesting, if true

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Jun 11 03:40:31 2019, in response to Re: This will be interesting, if true, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 10 18:18:49 2019.

We do it to confuse the foreigners! :)

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Re: This will be interesting, if true

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Jun 11 03:44:25 2019, in response to Re: This will be interesting, if true, posted by AlM on Mon Jun 10 20:19:51 2019.

Just my $0.02, not that it will happen, but she'd have a better chance against Gillibrand than Schumer, who would shred her into bite-size pieces. Trying to primary the Senate Minority Leader? Really?

Would she have to relinquish her congressional seat if she is going to take a shot at the Senate? Not familiar with NY law on this.

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Re: This will be interesting, if true

Posted by bingbong on Tue Jun 11 03:49:54 2019, in response to Re: This will be interesting, if true, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Jun 11 03:44:25 2019.

No, I really doubt that as well. Gillibrand can be just as tough as Schumer.

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Re: This will be interesting, if true

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jun 11 03:57:58 2019, in response to This will be interesting, if true, posted by Dave on Mon Jun 10 16:59:16 2019.

The sad thing is she thinks she actually has widespread agreement in her insane extreme policies.
What's scarier though, the Democrats are headed her way, so.....

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Re: This will be interesting, if true

Posted by mtk52983 on Tue Jun 11 04:04:31 2019, in response to Re: This will be interesting, if true, posted by bingbong on Tue Jun 11 03:49:54 2019.

Not to mention she can’t play on gender against Gillibrand plus Gillibrand will connect better with more Conservative Dems upstate and on Long Island. They may not turn out in a Schumer/AOC Primary because both are too left of center.

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Re: This will be interesting, if true

Posted by bingbong on Tue Jun 11 04:06:31 2019, in response to This will be interesting, if true, posted by Dave on Mon Jun 10 16:59:16 2019.

That’s not gonna happen. Dave, why do you fall for this stuff?

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Re: This will be interesting, if true

Posted by AlM on Tue Jun 11 04:14:02 2019, in response to Re: This will be interesting, if true, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Jun 11 03:44:25 2019.

Gillibrand is more liberal than Schumer, so an attack from the left would be even harder with her.

And yes, she can't run for Congress and Senate at the same time.


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Re: This will be interesting, if true

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Jun 11 04:42:13 2019, in response to Re: This will be interesting, if true, posted by mtk52983 on Tue Jun 11 04:04:31 2019.

2 things I disagree with:

When AOC says that she will primary Schumer, isn't she meaning that she will support a Challenger and not necessarily be the Challenger?

Are there really any conservative democrats who still believe that Gillibrand is one of them. I thought she she'd that costume long ago.



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Re: This will be interesting, if true

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 11 04:44:32 2019, in response to Re: This will be interesting, if true, posted by AlM on Tue Jun 11 04:14:02 2019.

But she can remain in Congress during her Senate run. No state requires a Representative to resign to run for another office.

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Re: This will be interesting, if true

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 11 04:47:19 2019, in response to Re: This will be interesting, if true, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jun 11 03:57:58 2019.

She does have widespread agreement. People are fools. Look at the 2016 election.

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Re: This will be interesting, if true

Posted by AlM on Tue Jun 11 04:48:52 2019, in response to Re: This will be interesting, if true, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 11 04:44:32 2019.

I was thinking relinquish in the sense of no longer having the House seat after Jan. 3, 2021.

Of course, her House seat is far from guaranteed to be hers after that date even if she does run for it.



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Re: This will be interesting, if true

Posted by AlM on Tue Jun 11 04:53:46 2019, in response to Re: This will be interesting, if true, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 11 04:47:19 2019.

widespread agreement

A third of Democrats, maybe? Look how poorly Zephyr Teachout and Cynthia Nixon did against a despised Cuomo.





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Re: This will be interesting, if true

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 11 05:02:28 2019, in response to Re: This will be interesting, if true, posted by AlM on Tue Jun 11 04:53:46 2019.

I don’t despise Cuomo.

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Re: This will be interesting, if true

Posted by Dave on Tue Jun 11 05:06:01 2019, in response to Re: This will be interesting, if true, posted by bingbong on Tue Jun 11 04:06:31 2019.

Haven't fallen for anything, just found the premise interesting.

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Re: This will be interesting, if true

Posted by rkba on Tue Jun 11 05:08:52 2019, in response to This will be interesting, if true, posted by Dave on Mon Jun 10 16:59:16 2019.

oh look it's AOC in her native environment.

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Re: This will be interesting, if true

Posted by AlM on Tue Jun 11 05:14:39 2019, in response to Re: This will be interesting, if true, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 11 05:02:28 2019.

But many Democrats do. And still Teachout and Nixon didn't do well against him. Just one small bit of evidence that Schumer and Gillibrand don't have much to worry about.





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Re: This will be interesting, if true

Posted by 3-9 on Tue Jun 11 05:26:30 2019, in response to Re: This will be interesting, if true, posted by AlM on Tue Jun 11 05:14:39 2019.

Because the 2 of them weren't outspoken enough, and basically didn't have the media chops, IMO. AOC is bolder and more enthusiastic - she just does better at whipping up the base. She might be able to do better against Gillibrand, IF something can be pinned on Gillibrand.

IMO, the reason AOC is doing so well is because conventional Democrats and conventional politics are failing to address the income inequities and cost of living issues. People then start looking to more radical and populist solutions (see: Hugo Chavez).

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Re: This will be interesting, if true

Posted by 3-9 on Tue Jun 11 05:27:59 2019, in response to Re: This will be interesting, if true, posted by bingbong on Tue Jun 11 04:06:31 2019.

As long as AOC's ego doesn't get away from her (and no, I don't think it has, yet).

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Re: This will be interesting, if true

Posted by AlM on Tue Jun 11 05:31:46 2019, in response to Re: This will be interesting, if true, posted by 3-9 on Tue Jun 11 05:26:30 2019.

On the other hand, Schumer and Gillibrand are much more popular than Cuomo.

If a skeleton emerges from either of their closets of course all bets are off. But then there may be lots of other primary candidates as well, and it all becomes incredibly unpredictable.



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Re: This will be interesting, if true

Posted by 3-9 on Tue Jun 11 05:45:49 2019, in response to Re: This will be interesting, if true, posted by AlM on Tue Jun 11 05:31:46 2019.

I'm not sure how popular Gillibrand is overall, but she doesn't seem to showcase herself the way Schumer does. That's why I think the bar for defeating her is lower.

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Re: This will be interesting, if true

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Jun 11 07:12:46 2019, in response to Re: This will be interesting, if true, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Jun 11 04:42:13 2019.

When AOC says that she will primary Schumer, isn't she meaning that she will support a Challenger and not necessarily be the Challenger?

Interesting point. I took the statement literally, but probably even she is smart enough that going up against an incumbent with multiple term experience won't fly, so perhaps she might get behind a like-minded peer with more experience.

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Re: This will be interesting, if true

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jun 11 09:41:56 2019, in response to Re: This will be interesting, if true, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 11 04:47:19 2019.

The only intelligent thing to come from that election is Donald John Trump!

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Re: This will be interesting, if true

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 11 09:48:05 2019, in response to Re: This will be interesting, if true, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jun 11 09:41:56 2019.

LOL!

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Re: This will be interesting, if true

Posted by AlM on Tue Jun 11 10:24:26 2019, in response to Re: This will be interesting, if true, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jun 11 09:41:56 2019.

After reading your post, I am having great difficulty keeping my lunch where it belongs.


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Re: This will be interesting, if true

Posted by bingbong on Tue Jun 11 11:24:25 2019, in response to Re: This will be interesting, if true, posted by 3-9 on Tue Jun 11 05:27:59 2019.

It hasn't. Plus the party will cut her off if she thinks of trying. Seriously, where that's concerned the Senators really make those calls. Gillibrand in particular has long long tentacles in the party. AOC is smart enough to know she wouldn't dare.

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Re: This will be interesting, if true

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 11 11:24:54 2019, in response to Re: This will be interesting, if true, posted by bingbong on Tue Jun 11 11:24:25 2019.

No, she's not.

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Re: This will be interesting, if true

Posted by bingbong on Tue Jun 11 11:26:11 2019, in response to Re: This will be interesting, if true, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 11 11:24:54 2019.

I do believe so. You may not like it, but she is.

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Re: This will be interesting, if true

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 11 11:38:04 2019, in response to Re: This will be interesting, if true, posted by bingbong on Tue Jun 11 11:26:11 2019.

Why would I not like it?

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Re: This will be interesting, if true

Posted by bingbong on Tue Jun 11 11:58:42 2019, in response to Re: This will be interesting, if true, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 11 11:38:04 2019.

Because you seem to have some variety of loathing of her. You message transmits it, anyway.

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Re: This will be interesting, if true

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jun 11 12:37:48 2019, in response to Re: This will be interesting, if true, posted by AlM on Tue Jun 11 10:24:26 2019.

Leave Luch out of it!

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Re: This will be interesting, if true

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jun 11 12:41:28 2019, in response to Re: This will be interesting, if true, posted by bingbong on Tue Jun 11 11:58:42 2019.

LOL!

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Re: This will be interesting, if true

Posted by Dave on Tue Jun 11 13:25:36 2019, in response to Re: This will be interesting, if true, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 11 11:24:54 2019.

IAWTP.

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Re: This will be interesting, if true

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 11 13:28:58 2019, in response to Re: This will be interesting, if true, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jun 11 12:41:28 2019.

IAWTLOL!

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Re: This will be interesting, if true

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 11 13:29:52 2019, in response to Re: This will be interesting, if true, posted by bingbong on Tue Jun 11 11:58:42 2019.

That's a logical failure right there.

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Re: This will be interesting, if true

Posted by Mtk52983 on Tue Jun 11 13:34:52 2019, in response to Re: This will be interesting, if true, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 11 13:29:52 2019.

Bingbong's entire existence is a logical failure

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Re: This will be interesting, if true

Posted by AlM on Tue Jun 11 13:34:53 2019, in response to Re: This will be interesting, if true, posted by bingbong on Tue Jun 11 11:58:42 2019.

???

He is saying AOC doesn't have the political acumen to understand when it is safe to go against the party establishment and when it isn't. Where is the loathing in that? One could be an all out supporter and still say that.



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Re: This will be interesting, if true

Posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Jun 11 13:40:02 2019, in response to Re: This will be interesting, if true, posted by bingbong on Tue Jun 11 11:58:42 2019.

No I don't like her.

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Re: This will be interesting, if true

Posted by bingbong on Tue Jun 11 14:03:25 2019, in response to Re: This will be interesting, if true, posted by Mtk52983 on Tue Jun 11 13:34:52 2019.

LOL! Can't handle the message, can you?

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Re: This will be interesting, if true

Posted by bingbong on Tue Jun 11 14:03:53 2019, in response to Re: This will be interesting, if true, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 11 13:29:52 2019.

I don't consider your comment logical.

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