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195 down, 75 to go!

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 22 10:49:33 2019

Nevada joins list of states trying to end the electoral college system

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Re: 195 down, 75 to go!

Posted by bingbong on Wed May 22 10:56:06 2019, in response to 195 down, 75 to go!, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 22 10:49:33 2019.

Awesome!👍👏

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Re: 195 down, 75 to go!

Posted by AlM on Wed May 22 11:08:10 2019, in response to 195 down, 75 to go!, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 22 10:49:33 2019.

I can't access your link. Have any states redder than NV joined?


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Re: 195 down, 75 to go!

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 22 11:14:04 2019, in response to Re: 195 down, 75 to go!, posted by AlM on Wed May 22 11:08:10 2019.

What happens when you click the link?

No.

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Re: 195 down, 75 to go!

Posted by AlM on Wed May 22 11:24:43 2019, in response to Re: 195 down, 75 to go!, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 22 11:14:04 2019.

Access denied by my employer. Must be porn. :)



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Re: 195 down, 75 to go!

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 22 11:28:06 2019, in response to Re: 195 down, 75 to go!, posted by AlM on Wed May 22 11:24:43 2019.

archive website for paywall bypass. Original Link

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Re: Nevada tells Nevadians - Your vote doesn't matter.

Posted by orange blossom special on Wed May 22 11:39:47 2019, in response to 195 down, 75 to go!, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 22 10:49:33 2019.

Corrected.

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Re: 195 down, 75 to go!

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed May 22 12:13:33 2019, in response to 195 down, 75 to go!, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 22 10:49:33 2019.

Can't access

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Re: 195 down, 75 to go!

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 22 12:15:11 2019, in response to Re: 195 down, 75 to go!, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed May 22 12:13:33 2019.

Same reason as AlM? See my response to his post.

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Re: 195 down, 75 to go!

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed May 22 12:15:14 2019, in response to Re: 195 down, 75 to go!, posted by AlM on Wed May 22 11:24:43 2019.

Access denied even on my phone

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Re: Nevada tells Nevadians - Your vote doesn't matter.

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 22 12:22:02 2019, in response to Re: Nevada tells Nevadians - Your vote doesn't matter., posted by orange blossom special on Wed May 22 11:39:47 2019.

Exactly. The politicians just disenfranchised the people of Nevada, handing all of their votes to California.

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Re: Nevada tells Nevadians - Your vote matters as much every other American's

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 22 12:23:13 2019, in response to Re: Nevada tells Nevadians - Your vote doesn't matter., posted by orange blossom special on Wed May 22 11:39:47 2019.

Subject corrected.

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Re: 195 down, 75 to go!

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed May 22 15:45:30 2019, in response to 195 down, 75 to go!, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 22 10:49:33 2019.

TDS on the national level! "Enlightened Academia" cannot wait! Middle America be damned!!

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Re: 195 down, 75 to go!

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed May 22 15:47:28 2019, in response to Re: 195 down, 75 to go!, posted by bingbong on Wed May 22 10:56:06 2019.

Unamerican! What's next, changing the Constitution?!

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Re: 195 down, 75 to go!

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 22 15:48:38 2019, in response to Re: 195 down, 75 to go!, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed May 22 15:45:30 2019.

Fuck “Middle America.”

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Re: 195 down, 75 to go!

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 22 15:48:58 2019, in response to Re: 195 down, 75 to go!, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed May 22 15:47:28 2019.

Yes!

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Re: 195 down, 75 to go!

Posted by AlM on Wed May 22 16:00:21 2019, in response to Re: 195 down, 75 to go!, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed May 22 15:47:28 2019.

That's more a right wing thing nowadays. Lots of people want the 14th amendment modified, and the 16th and 17th repealed.



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Re: 195 down, 75 to go!

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed May 22 16:14:12 2019, in response to Re: 195 down, 75 to go!, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 22 15:48:38 2019.

How nyccentric

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Re: 195 down, 75 to go!

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed May 22 16:15:48 2019, in response to Re: 195 down, 75 to go!, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 22 15:48:58 2019.

No!

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Re: 195 down, 75 to go!

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed May 22 16:16:23 2019, in response to Re: 195 down, 75 to go!, posted by AlM on Wed May 22 16:00:21 2019.

Whoever does it is wrong

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Re: 195 down, 75 to go!

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed May 22 16:19:30 2019, in response to 195 down, 75 to go!, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 22 10:49:33 2019.

At least it doesn't affect the 2020 election!

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Re: 195 down, 75 to go!

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 22 16:27:32 2019, in response to Re: 195 down, 75 to go!, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed May 22 16:16:23 2019.

It’s been done 27 times.

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Re: 195 down, 75 to go!

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 22 16:28:34 2019, in response to Re: 195 down, 75 to go!, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed May 22 16:14:12 2019.

No, coast-centric.

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Re: 195 down, 75 to go!

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed May 22 17:13:04 2019, in response to Re: 195 down, 75 to go!, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed May 22 15:47:28 2019.

Happens from time to time. Its called amendments.

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Re: 195 down, 75 to go!

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed May 22 18:07:12 2019, in response to Re: 195 down, 75 to go!, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed May 22 17:13:04 2019.

Yes, I know.

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Re: 195 down, 75 to go!

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed May 22 18:09:01 2019, in response to Re: 195 down, 75 to go!, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 22 16:28:34 2019.

You don't think that the hinterland should vote?

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Re: 195 down, 75 to go!

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 22 19:18:46 2019, in response to Re: 195 down, 75 to go!, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed May 22 18:09:01 2019.

They should.

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Re: 195 down, 75 to go!

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 22 21:27:00 2019, in response to Re: 195 down, 75 to go!, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed May 22 18:09:01 2019.

Of course he doesn't.

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Re: 195 down, 75 to go!

Posted by bingbong on Wed May 22 21:30:00 2019, in response to Re: 195 down, 75 to go!, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed May 22 16:19:30 2019.

So far. There’s a year to go....


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Re: 195 down, 75 to go!

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed May 22 22:17:32 2019, in response to Re: 195 down, 75 to go!, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 22 19:18:46 2019.

And do you think that their vote should count?

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Re: 195 down, 75 to go!

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed May 22 22:38:42 2019, in response to Re: 195 down, 75 to go!, posted by bingbong on Wed May 22 21:30:00 2019.

Sorry, but the American people are not going to stand for it.

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Re: 195 down, 75 to go!

Posted by bingbong on Wed May 22 22:40:15 2019, in response to Re: 195 down, 75 to go!, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed May 22 22:38:42 2019.

Looks more like reality is to the contrary....

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Re: 195 down, 75 to go!

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed May 22 22:49:38 2019, in response to Re: 195 down, 75 to go!, posted by bingbong on Wed May 22 22:40:15 2019.

Another sentence that should never come out of your mouth

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Re: 195 down, 75 to go!

Posted by bingbong on Thu May 23 03:04:13 2019, in response to Re: 195 down, 75 to go!, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed May 22 22:49:38 2019.

And you have consistently missed.

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Re: 195 down, 75 to go!

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 23 03:32:02 2019, in response to Re: 195 down, 75 to go!, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed May 22 22:17:32 2019.

Yes. Equally.

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Re: 195 down, 75 to go!

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu May 23 03:39:25 2019, in response to Re: 195 down, 75 to go!, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 23 03:32:02 2019.

But the problem with that is they will never get the candidate that they want because they have a different mindset than the coastal elite liberals.

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Re: 195 down, 75 to go!

Posted by mtk52983 on Thu May 23 03:55:07 2019, in response to Re: 195 down, 75 to go!, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu May 23 03:39:25 2019.

Then they should work on convincing more people to move there. Why should a minority of the population get to exert their mindset over the majority?

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Re: 195 down, 75 to go!

Posted by AlM on Thu May 23 05:29:56 2019, in response to Re: 195 down, 75 to go!, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu May 23 03:39:25 2019.

they will never get the candidate that they want

Neither do socialists, because they are also a minority. Have you heard of compromise? Romney wasn't a perfect candidate for rural voters, but he was pretty good for them, and he had a real chance of winning both the popular and the electoral vote.

Or are you just saying that the minority should rule because you agree with their views?



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Re: Nevada tells Nevadians - Your vote doesn't matter!

Posted by orange blossom special on Thu May 23 06:44:04 2019, in response to Re: Nevada tells Nevadians - Your vote matters as much every other American's, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 22 12:23:13 2019.

Not true. You read it wrong, so let me correct you. They are still sending electors to select the president, in the same number as they did before.

So you said they had 9? (I don't care enough to look it up, the state is too small). Zero people can vote, and Nevada will send 9 delegates to vote for whomever NY, California, and whatever dead people in Chicago voted for.
Everyone in Nevada can vote for Bob Corker. But if NY, Florida, California, and Michigan votes for racist Talib. Nevada will send it's electors to the dual-loyalty princess Talib.


Unless if Nevada is doing it slightly different than it's neighbor. In that case, it's still Nevada, so I don't still don't care about them. I found the neighboring states law as abhorrent and unconstitutional when they did it.


Nevada is going to side with this. A friggin minority:


People who voted for Trump:


Smart

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Re: 195 down, 75 to go!

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 23 07:14:02 2019, in response to Re: 195 down, 75 to go!, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu May 23 03:39:25 2019.

But that's how it works with minorities. If more people disagree with you than agree with you, you lose.

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Re: Nevada tells Nevadians - Your vote doesn't matter!

Posted by 3-9 on Thu May 23 07:16:03 2019, in response to Re: Nevada tells Nevadians - Your vote doesn't matter!, posted by orange blossom special on Thu May 23 06:44:04 2019.

What you just showed is not the people who voted for Trump, but the land which voted for Trump. Except that land can't vote. Or are you saying that a person who lives in a sparsely populated area of the country is more important than someone who lives in a more densely populated area?

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Re: 195 down, 75 to go!

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 23 07:21:22 2019, in response to Re: 195 down, 75 to go!, posted by mtk52983 on Thu May 23 03:55:07 2019.

If more people move there, the electoral college would stop being so inequitable. The problem is, that most people don't want to live there. As time goes on, more people will live in a smaller number of states. What worked in 1787 doesn't work anymore.

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Re: 195 down, 75 to go!

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 23 07:24:57 2019, in response to Re: 195 down, 75 to go!, posted by AlM on Thu May 23 05:29:56 2019.

Compromise is often bullshit. Look at Romney: The then-Republican Party went for a compromise candidate who was supposedly "electable," and lost. Then in 2016, when their party elected an orange demagogue who was supposedly completely unelectable and was certainly significantly more unpalatable to the other side than Romney, he won.

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Re: Nevada tells Nevadians - Your vote doesn't matter!

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 23 07:26:06 2019, in response to Re: Nevada tells Nevadians - Your vote doesn't matter!, posted by 3-9 on Thu May 23 07:16:03 2019.

Yes, he is saying exactly that. Acres and trees before people.

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Re: Nevada tells Nevadians - Your vote doesn't matter!

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 23 07:27:16 2019, in response to Re: Nevada tells Nevadians - Your vote doesn't matter!, posted by orange blossom special on Thu May 23 06:44:04 2019.

It's not a minorities. Most of the country is empty space, accept it. Land doesn't vote.

The whole idea is that if the NPVIC comes into effect, it won't matter who wins the vote in Nevada. The Electoral College becomes a procedural formality

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Re: 195 down, 75 to go!

Posted by AlM on Thu May 23 07:29:21 2019, in response to Re: 195 down, 75 to go!, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 23 07:24:57 2019.

I agree. But I was mainly rebutting BB's claims that the poor old rural folks just can't get the candidate they want.



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Re: 195 down, 75 to go!

Posted by bingbong on Thu May 23 08:36:51 2019, in response to Re: 195 down, 75 to go!, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 23 07:21:22 2019.

That's correct....the founders never imagined this. How could they?

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Re: 195 down, 75 to go!

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu May 23 23:08:04 2019, in response to Re: 195 down, 75 to go!, posted by bingbong on Thu May 23 08:36:51 2019.

No they couldn't. Illegal aliens hopping the border every 2 seconds, third-world turds coming here and not assimilating to the American way of life. You are absolutely correct!

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Re: 195 down, 75 to go!

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu May 23 23:09:34 2019, in response to Re: 195 down, 75 to go!, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 23 07:21:22 2019.

So basically if there's no Electoral College, the rest of the country will be forever like a republican voter in New York City. Against all of the democratic politicians, but he will never ever ever win, subjected to a lifetime of politics. He wants nothing to do with.

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Re: 195 down, 75 to go!

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 24 03:02:10 2019, in response to Re: 195 down, 75 to go!, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu May 23 23:09:34 2019.

If there were no Electoral College, Republican voters in NYC would actually have their votes count! How hard is that to understand? Why are you more concerned with hicks from Ohio?

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