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Re: MSM eats its own words and reverses stance

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Thu Apr 11 19:32:25 2019, in response to Re: MSM eats its own words and reverses stance, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Apr 11 19:28:01 2019.

It did actually. Most of those Cubans and their descendants vote Republican now. They're smart enough to know what they ran from.

I have a feeling Venezuelans would do the same, if we wait long enough for most of the yuckleheads who supported large scale socialism and nationalization of infrastructure to fully realize the error of their ways.

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Re: MSM eats its own words and reverses stance

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Thu Apr 11 19:37:16 2019, in response to Re: MSM eats its own words and reverses stance, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Apr 11 19:30:22 2019.

I meant that with air quotes. Asylum is the easiest way "in" to our country through the front door, because the other ways are based on luck, being rich, being highly educated, or being from a country that doesn't have many immigrants coming here.

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Re: MSM eats its own words and reverses stance

Posted by AlM on Thu Apr 11 19:43:25 2019, in response to Re: MSM eats its own words and reverses stance, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Thu Apr 11 19:37:16 2019.

You missed being closely related to an American citizen, which is the most common way to get in.



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Re: MSM eats its own words and reverses stance

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Thu Apr 11 19:46:38 2019, in response to Re: MSM eats its own words and reverses stance, posted by AlM on Thu Apr 11 19:43:25 2019.

That would be luck, essentially.

I'm saying that it's easier for an arbitrary family from Latin America with no ties to the country they're immigrating to, to legally live and work somewhere like Australia or New Zealand than it is to do so here. At the same time you cannot deny that both countries have a 100% physical barrier border (albeit naturally) to keep the immigration process civil.

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Re: MSM eats its own words and reverses stance

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Apr 11 19:56:34 2019, in response to Re: MSM eats its own words and reverses stance, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Thu Apr 11 19:37:16 2019.

They're not using the front door.

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Re: MSM eats its own words and reverses stance

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Apr 11 20:00:11 2019, in response to Re: MSM eats its own words and reverses stance, posted by Ftgreeneg on Thu Apr 11 16:09:57 2019.

But they specifically want to come to this country so they can suck the taxpayers dry! Notice that they don't want to go to other countries

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Re: MSM eats its own words and reverses stance

Posted by AlM on Thu Apr 11 20:13:06 2019, in response to Re: MSM eats its own words and reverses stance, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Thu Apr 11 19:46:38 2019.

Wow, would I not ever call the Australian immigration process civil. I hope you are writing out of ignorance, because otherwise your comment is disgusting.

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Re: MSM eats its own words and reverses stance

Posted by Fred G on Thu Apr 11 20:24:37 2019, in response to Re: MSM eats its own words and reverses stance, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Apr 11 20:00:11 2019.

They said the same sort of thing about the Chinese over 100 years ago

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Re: MSM eats its own words and reverses stance

Posted by WayneJay on Thu Apr 11 20:36:48 2019, in response to Re: MSM eats its own words and reverses stance, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Apr 11 16:11:34 2019.

Absolutely!

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Re: MSM eats its own words and reverses stance

Posted by Ftgreeneg on Thu Apr 11 20:44:38 2019, in response to Re: MSM eats its own words and reverses stance, posted by Fred G on Thu Apr 11 20:24:37 2019.

How history repeats itself

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Re: MSM eats its own words and reverses stance

Posted by Ftgreeneg on Thu Apr 11 20:47:06 2019, in response to Re: MSM eats its own words and reverses stance, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Thu Apr 11 19:32:25 2019.

Probably bc Cubans were welcomed with open arms by Republicans and not branded murders and rapists...

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Re: MSM eats its own words and reverses stance

Posted by Fred G on Thu Apr 11 20:53:11 2019, in response to Re: MSM eats its own words and reverses stance, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Apr 11 16:11:34 2019.

Absolute truth

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Re: MSM eats its own words and reverses stance

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Thu Apr 11 21:05:33 2019, in response to Re: MSM eats its own words and reverses stance, posted by AlM on Thu Apr 11 20:13:06 2019.

Yes, those facilities are shitholes. But the people there can leave at any time back to where they came from (unlike a prison, concentration camp, or Hotel California), and they are there because they violated immigration law. The alternative is what Asian countries do, which is to deport people (and bar re-entry) without any hearing the moment a violation occurs and completely ignore the makeshift ships carrying asylum seekers until they go elsewhere or everyone on them dies. Ironically Australian immigration would have a less bad PR problem if they took a less humane stance on it.

My point still stands: The process if you come in through standard channels is far more organized and fair than ours.

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Re: MSM eats its own words and reverses stance

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Apr 12 02:00:16 2019, in response to Re: MSM eats its own words and reverses stance, posted by Fred G on Thu Apr 11 20:24:37 2019.

The difference is a hundred years ago when the Chinese came here and dropped all their kids on U.S. soil, the taxpayers didn't have to pay for food stamps, Medicare, welfare.

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Re: MSM eats its own words and reverses stance

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Fri Apr 12 07:41:32 2019, in response to Re: MSM eats its own words and reverses stance, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Apr 11 15:37:34 2019.

In fact, it is the fault of our president. The left hates him for beating hillary when they were so sure that victory was theirs so now the left is determined that this president will never have another victory, our country be damned. Beware, Kavanaugh 2.0 is coming.

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Re: MSM eats its own words and reverses stance

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Fri Apr 12 07:44:52 2019, in response to Re: MSM eats its own words and reverses stance, posted by Fred G on Thu Apr 11 20:53:11 2019.

Democrapic truth

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Re: MSM eats its own words and reverses stance

Posted by Fred G on Fri Apr 12 08:41:39 2019, in response to Re: MSM eats its own words and reverses stance, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Apr 11 15:37:34 2019.

When he shut the government down over it there was no emergency or crisis.

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Re: MSM eats its own words and reverses stance

Posted by AlM on Fri Apr 12 08:49:04 2019, in response to Re: MSM eats its own words and reverses stance, posted by Fred G on Fri Apr 12 08:41:39 2019.

And even if he was so clairvoyant that he saw the crisis coming, he shut the government down over something that wasn't going to do one iota to address the crisis.

If he had said to Congress, look, there is an asylum crisis coming, I'll trade you something in return for legislation to address the coming crisis, they would have talked.

But he didn't, because that wouldn't appeal to his base.



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Re: MSM eats its own words and reverses stance

Posted by orange blossom special on Mon Apr 15 08:48:57 2019, in response to Re: MSM eats its own words and reverses stance, posted by AlM on Thu Apr 11 15:01:33 2019.

What's changed rapidly? Rapidly being years?

From the same guy who posted about storms from 3 days ago.

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