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"No One's Ever Really Gone"

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Apr 14 09:53:47 2019



Ian McDarmid (Palpatine), Billy Dee Williams, and Mark Hamill are all reprising their roles in the final Star Wars movie. Carrie Fisher will appear posthumously, using scenes filmed (but unreleased) in other movies in the series.

I might actually live to see the Star Wars story completed, forty-two yeas after it began...

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Re: ''No One's Ever Really Gone''

Posted by Allan on Sun Apr 14 10:46:45 2019, in response to "No One's Ever Really Gone", posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Apr 14 09:53:47 2019.

Old you will be.

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Re: ''No One's Ever Really Gone''

Posted by TUNNELRAT on Sun Apr 14 10:53:35 2019, in response to "No One's Ever Really Gone", posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Apr 14 09:53:47 2019.

is that in "real years or light years"?


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Re: ''No One's Ever Really Gone''

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Apr 14 11:05:45 2019, in response to Re: ''No One's Ever Really Gone'', posted by TUNNELRAT on Sun Apr 14 10:53:35 2019.

A light year is NOT a unit of time.

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Re: ''No One's Ever Really Gone''

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Apr 14 11:14:54 2019, in response to Re: ''No One's Ever Really Gone'', posted by Allan on Sun Apr 14 10:46:45 2019.

Old, I am...

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Re: ''No One's Ever Really Gone''

Posted by TUNNELRAT on Sun Apr 14 11:15:55 2019, in response to Re: ''No One's Ever Really Gone'', posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Apr 14 11:05:45 2019.

in my universe it is,so there.

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Re: ''No One's Ever Really Gone''

Posted by AlM on Sun Apr 14 11:58:25 2019, in response to Re: ''No One's Ever Really Gone'', posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Apr 14 11:05:45 2019.

Some amazingly knowledgeable people have made that mistake. Some of them have even been embarrassed when it was pointed out to them.





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Re: ''No One's Ever Really Gone''

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Apr 14 12:08:41 2019, in response to Re: ''No One's Ever Really Gone'', posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Apr 14 11:05:45 2019.

Neither is a parsec, but Han Solo ignores that in Episode IV.

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Re: ''No One's Ever Really Gone''

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Apr 14 12:27:02 2019, in response to Re: ''No One's Ever Really Gone'', posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Apr 14 12:08:41 2019.

This is explained in Solo: A Star Wars Story. He made the run using a shorter, more direct route.

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Re: ''No One's Ever Really Gone''

Posted by SLRT on Sun Apr 14 12:33:18 2019, in response to "No One's Ever Really Gone", posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Apr 14 09:53:47 2019.

I saw the first Star Wars with my girlfriend at a drive-in.

Drive-ins are history, Star Wars has grown old, and so have I.

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Re: ''No One's Ever Really Gone''

Posted by Dave on Sun Apr 14 12:39:32 2019, in response to Re: ''No One's Ever Really Gone'', posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Apr 14 11:05:45 2019.

Just like a parsec is a measure of distance or length, not time (as Han Solo incorrectly said in the first Star Wars movie).

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Re: ''No One's Ever Really Gone''

Posted by Dave on Sun Apr 14 12:40:08 2019, in response to Re: ''No One's Ever Really Gone'', posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Apr 14 12:08:41 2019.

Darn it! I just posted that...should have finished reading the thread first!

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Re: ''No One's Ever Really Gone''

Posted by Dave on Sun Apr 14 12:41:07 2019, in response to Re: ''No One's Ever Really Gone'', posted by SLRT on Sun Apr 14 12:33:18 2019.

A drive-in opened in Ft. Worth a few years ago. Pretty popular on weekends but not used much during the week.

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Re: ''No One's Ever Really Gone''

Posted by SLRT on Sun Apr 14 12:43:34 2019, in response to Re: ''No One's Ever Really Gone'', posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Apr 14 11:05:45 2019.

Is too!! It's 20% shorter than a heavy year.

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Re: ''No One's Ever Really Gone''

Posted by SLRT on Sun Apr 14 12:45:30 2019, in response to Re: ''No One's Ever Really Gone'', posted by Dave on Sun Apr 14 12:41:07 2019.

My girl used to say that drive-ins died because girls got apartments.

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Re: ''No One's Ever Really Gone''

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Apr 14 12:51:15 2019, in response to Re: ''No One's Ever Really Gone'', posted by Dave on Sun Apr 14 12:39:32 2019.

First heard of "parsec" in a first season Star Trek episode "Arena"

McCoy to Spock...So wheres' the Caption Mr Spock??

Spock to McCoy...Out there, Doctor (looking at screen),Out there somewhere within thousands of Parsces of space.

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Re: ''No One's Ever Really Gone''

Posted by Mitch45 on Sun Apr 14 13:58:07 2019, in response to "No One's Ever Really Gone", posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Apr 14 09:53:47 2019.

Ian McDarmid? No one is ever really gone?

I'm getting a bad feeling about this...

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Re: ''No One's Ever Really Gone''

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 14 14:55:42 2019, in response to Re: ''No One's Ever Really Gone'', posted by SLRT on Sun Apr 14 12:33:18 2019.

Another one who comes back after Luch leaves.

Fascinating.

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Re: “No One’s Ever Really Gone”

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 14 15:20:30 2019, in response to Re: ''No One's Ever Really Gone'', posted by Dave on Sun Apr 14 12:39:32 2019.

The novel (which came out the year before the film) had Solo bragging that the Millennium Falcon did the Kessel Run "in less than twelve standard timeparts".

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Re: “No One’s Ever Really Gone”

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Apr 14 15:26:20 2019, in response to Re: “No One’s Ever Really Gone”, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 14 15:20:30 2019.

It was obviously a blunder, but now they've retconned an explanation.

IMO, the most plausible explanation is that Solo was trying to impress a rube who didn't know what a parsec was.

Also, parsecs and light years are meaningless outside of the Earth given that they are both based on Earth-based phenomena. Technically, so are meters and seconds, and by extension, kilograms.

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Re: “No One’s Ever Really Gone”

Posted by AlM on Sun Apr 14 16:02:51 2019, in response to Re: “No One’s Ever Really Gone”, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Apr 14 15:26:20 2019.

Technically, so are meters and seconds, and by extension, kilograms.

Actually, if you look at their definitions in Wikipedia, they are all now finally defined based on universal phenomena that don't rely on the existence of earth.

It all depends on Planck's constant, h in E = h nu, being specified as exactly 6.62607004 × 10-34 m^2 kg / s



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Re: “No One’s Ever Really Gone”

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Apr 14 16:10:21 2019, in response to Re: “No One’s Ever Really Gone”, posted by AlM on Sun Apr 14 16:02:51 2019.

But those weren’t the original definitions, and the numbers used are entirely arbitrary, in order to match the sizes of the old definitions. So a person who knows the definitions can explain them to some aliens so that they can understand Earth measurements with no knowledge whatsoever of the Earth (this was the principle behind the Voyager Golden Record), but they would not spontaneously arise outside of the Earth.

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Re: “No One’s Ever Really Gone”

Posted by AlM on Sun Apr 14 16:12:49 2019, in response to Re: “No One’s Ever Really Gone”, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Apr 14 16:10:21 2019.

Agreed.


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Re: ''No One's Ever Really Gone''

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Apr 14 20:16:11 2019, in response to "No One's Ever Really Gone", posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Apr 14 09:53:47 2019.

Not interested.

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Re: ''No One's Ever Really Gone''

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 14 20:50:44 2019, in response to "No One's Ever Really Gone", posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Apr 14 09:53:47 2019.

I haven't seen any except for the first 3. I'll have to bing watch the entire series.

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Re: “No One’s Ever Really Gone”

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 14 21:05:46 2019, in response to Re: “No One’s Ever Really Gone”, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Apr 14 15:26:20 2019.

It's fine, because they'll never get anything out of Princess Leia because she knows the art of mind control.

And Corellians were originally supposed to have red skin.

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Re: ''No One's Ever Really Gone''

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Sun Apr 14 22:04:25 2019, in response to Re: ''No One's Ever Really Gone'', posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 14 14:55:42 2019.

You're giving him too much credit (if I'm properly interpreting what you are saying, which I may not).



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Re: ''No One's Ever Really Gone''

Posted by Dave on Mon Apr 15 05:39:39 2019, in response to Re: ''No One's Ever Really Gone'', posted by SLRT on Sun Apr 14 12:45:30 2019.

She may be right!

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Re: “No One’s Ever Really Gone”

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Apr 15 08:51:53 2019, in response to Re: ''No One's Ever Really Gone'', posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Apr 14 20:16:11 2019.

They're going to try to hype this up astronomically.

I wonder if Carrie Fisher was ever recorded saying: "They were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Naturally, they became heroes." (Or Cindy Williams, or even Terri Nunn?)

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