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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Mar 25 20:38:29 2019, in response to Re: Trump Will Win 2020 Election, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Mar 25 20:21:58 2019. Libertarian party made their stance on the border clear, which is open borders / more immigration, consistent with the thought process of less control. Because libertarians remove compulsory safety nets, this is less of a problem than it would be now: it would be sink or swim for any new arrivals, or at the very least up to whatever services the region they've settled in provides [or charities available] if they're struggling.The Libertarian indifferent attitude towards allies comes from a simple desire to not meddle in affairs beyond our borders, which saves massive amounts of money currently used for defense (as well as extending the 'my rights end where yours begin' philosophy to a global scale). Trump even echoed this early on in his presidency with his calls for countries to start paying for the military protection they receive from us. |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Mar 25 20:56:07 2019, in response to Re: Trump Will Win 2020 Election, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Mar 25 20:30:24 2019. I would want to know who booked him as a speaker and ask if they had their priorities right. someone like “Milo” really has no business on a campus like Berkeley, as a security issue as well as a WTF? . Seriously, who would actually want to sit through his hateful "presentation"… to b excruciatingly polite about this hater. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 25 20:57:20 2019, in response to Re: Trump Will Win 2020 Election, posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Mar 25 20:20:02 2019. Aim posted the quotes. |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Mar 25 21:05:24 2019, in response to Re: Trump Will Win 2020 Election, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Mar 25 20:30:24 2019. No argument there. I’m a big fan of let them speak because they’ll unravel by themselves |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Mar 25 21:39:25 2019, in response to Re: Trump Will Win 2020 Election, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 25 20:57:20 2019. What quotes? |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Mar 25 21:40:30 2019, in response to Re: Trump Will Win 2020 Election, posted by bingbong on Mon Mar 25 20:56:07 2019. He can go wherever the hell he wants. It's a free country. Pingpong. |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Mar 25 21:56:51 2019, in response to Re: Trump Will Win 2020 Election, posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Mar 25 21:40:30 2019. Not unless invited. There are laws against trespassing. Somehow he gotta slot as a speaker. I'd like to know how that happened to begin with. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Mar 25 22:07:26 2019, in response to Re: Trump Will Win 2020 Election, posted by bingbong on Mon Mar 25 21:56:51 2019. He was invited. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Mar 26 01:25:19 2019, in response to Re: Trump Will Win 2020 Election, posted by bingbong on Mon Mar 25 21:56:51 2019. Um... This is America. Are you telling me that only students with a certain mindset are allowed to invite speakers and students with another mindset are not? Same with the school's administration. How dictatoresque of you! |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Mar 26 01:40:36 2019, in response to Re: Trump Will Win 2020 Election, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Mar 25 20:27:07 2019. You are spot-on when it comes to urinalysis of Democrats and the issue of free speech. Why do you think the Democrats derided Trump's executive order? Because they do not want free speech! |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Mar 26 01:41:08 2019, in response to Re: Trump Will Win 2020 Election, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Mar 25 20:27:07 2019. You are spot-on when it comes to your analysis of Democrats and the issue of free speech. Why do you think the Democrats derided Trump's executive order? Because they do not want free speech! |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Mar 26 02:16:44 2019, in response to Re: Trump Will Win 2020 Election, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Mar 25 20:27:07 2019. Depends on which doctors.Republican state legislation to prevent doctors from talking to their patients about the danger of guns. Republican state legislation to mandate that doctors say specific things, and not say specific things, to patients considering an abortion. Campus protests are attempts to deny speech, and violate the rights of the property owner to invite people to talk. But those are done by individuals; the Republican efforts are done by the government. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Mar 26 02:21:09 2019, in response to Re: Trump Will Win 2020 Election, posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Mar 25 21:39:25 2019. The quotes that you told Fred he was a liar about. |
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Posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 26 05:57:42 2019, in response to Re: Trump Will Win 2020 Election, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Mar 26 01:41:08 2019. Trump is just instituting affirmative action for a conservative speakers at colleges |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Mar 26 06:38:40 2019, in response to Re: Trump Will Win 2020 Election, posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 26 05:57:42 2019. He's protecting their right to speak. |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Tue Mar 26 07:41:43 2019, in response to Re: Trump Will Win 2020 Election, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Mar 25 20:27:07 2019. Shall we use the Trump method then of just shitting on the other side and demanding laws be changed? Cause id be down for that. Then we could sue conservatives for the lies they canstwntly use. |
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Posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 26 07:42:42 2019, in response to Re: Trump Will Win 2020 Election, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Mar 26 06:38:40 2019. Yes by affirmative action. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Mar 26 10:08:37 2019, in response to Re: Trump Will Win 2020 Election, posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 26 07:42:42 2019. You may be right! |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue Mar 26 18:52:27 2019, in response to Re: Trump Will Win 2020 Election, posted by AlM on Tue Mar 26 02:16:44 2019. Republican state legislation to prevent doctors from talking to their patients about the danger of guns.Other than maybe a psychologist what business is it for a doctor to say anything about guns? That said, this is indeed an example of censorship. Republican state legislation to mandate that doctors say specific things, and not say specific things, to patients considering an abortion. I covered that one when I mentioned abortion. Campus protests are attempts to deny speech, and violate the rights of the property owner to invite people to talk. But those are done by individuals; the Republican efforts are done by the government. The government isn't forbidding the campuses from censoring speakers, it's just saying that they can't get Federal funding if they censor speakers. If you don't like it, think about that every time you vote in favor of tax hikes that allow the federal government to take more taxes from state residents/businesses and force them to beg / do a monkey dance to get that money back. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Mar 26 19:53:04 2019, in response to Re: Trump Will Win 2020 Election, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue Mar 26 18:52:27 2019. Other than maybe a psychologist what business is it for a doctor to say anything about guns? That said, this is indeed an example of censorship.Pediatricians have a valid role in explaining to parents the risk to their children that they run if they have guns in the house. Florida Republicans tried to make such a chat illegal. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Mar 26 20:06:23 2019, in response to Re: Trump Will Win 2020 Election, posted by AlM on Tue Mar 26 19:53:04 2019. Parents should already know this! |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Mar 26 20:12:11 2019, in response to Re: Trump Will Win 2020 Election, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Mar 26 20:06:23 2019. Your point being what?Parents should know lots of things they don't know. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue Mar 26 23:28:06 2019, in response to Re: Trump Will Win 2020 Election, posted by AlM on Tue Mar 26 19:53:04 2019. Do they explain the risks of electrical outlets, boiling water on hot stoves, large dogs, hot cars, etc too? |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Mar 27 03:06:55 2019, in response to Re: Trump Will Win 2020 Election, posted by AlM on Tue Mar 26 20:12:11 2019. My point being that doctors shouldn't have to tell patients that. My doctor doesn't have to tell me not to walk in front of a speeding train, but because people still do, should he tell me? |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Wed Mar 27 05:44:22 2019, in response to Re: Trump Will Win 2020 Election, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue Mar 26 23:28:06 2019. Most pediatricians I know don’t harp on obvious warnings like electrical outlets, boiling water, etc. They may say once, but that’s it. As to guns, usually they will only say if they know or have reason to suspect that there are guns in the home or if a parent explicitly asks. |
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Posted by bingbong on Wed Mar 27 07:57:47 2019, in response to Re: Trump Will Win 2020 Election, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue Mar 26 18:52:27 2019. Florida Republicans tried to make such a chat illegal.THIS is an example of censorship. A doctor discussing the risks of a gun in the house is not. That's a public health issue. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Mar 27 08:00:07 2019, in response to Re: Trump Will Win 2020 Election, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue Mar 26 23:28:06 2019. They aren’t prohibited from doing so. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Mar 27 08:00:44 2019, in response to Re: Trump Will Win 2020 Election, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue Mar 26 23:28:06 2019. They aren’t prohibited from doing so. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Mar 27 08:03:17 2019, in response to Re: Trump Will Win 2020 Election, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Mar 27 03:06:55 2019. That's for the doctor to decide. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Mar 27 09:05:45 2019, in response to Re: Trump Will Win 2020 Election, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue Mar 26 23:28:06 2019. Either you favor a law prohibiting them from talking about guns, or you don't. The fact that you think it is pointless for them to do so has nothing to do with the underlying point that Republicans in government have very actively tried to censor speech. |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Mar 27 10:49:21 2019, in response to Re: Trump Will Win 2020 Election, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Mar 27 03:06:55 2019. Doesn't matter if he should. He has the right to tell you that if he chooses. The Florida law clamps down his free speech. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Wed Mar 27 20:20:34 2019, in response to Re: Trump Will Win 2020 Election, posted by AlM on Wed Mar 27 09:05:45 2019. I already stated my disapproval with my line about it being blatant censorship. I was addressing your response to my question about who would even ask such a question, which was a sidebar. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Wed Mar 27 20:22:21 2019, in response to Re: Trump Will Win 2020 Election, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Mar 27 08:00:44 2019. My rhetorical question wasn't about whether they should or should not be prohibited, just that it's a somewhat pointless thing to talk about to begin with. Lots of stuff is dangerous. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Mar 27 20:36:25 2019, in response to Re: Trump Will Win 2020 Election, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Wed Mar 27 20:22:21 2019. just that it's a somewhat pointless thing to talk about to begin with.Republicans in FL disagreed with you, to the extent that they tried to make such speech prohibited. |
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Posted by bingbong on Wed Mar 27 20:52:46 2019, in response to Re: Trump Will Win 2020 Election, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Wed Mar 27 20:22:21 2019. Having an unsecured gun in the home is a readily and perfectly logically overcome risk. Just unload, and then lock it up and it's suddenly far safer. Not all that much to it, beyond dedication to the idea of keeping your toddler from finding, and God forbid, shooting a gun. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Mar 27 23:34:15 2019, in response to Re: Trump Will Win 2020 Election, posted by bingbong on Wed Mar 27 20:52:46 2019. Will you shut the fuck up already about guns. |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Mar 28 00:49:23 2019, in response to Re: Trump Will Win 2020 Election, posted by Train Dude on Wed Mar 27 23:34:15 2019. No. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Mar 28 04:32:59 2019, in response to Re: Trump Will Win 2020 Election, posted by bingbong on Wed Mar 27 20:52:46 2019. What good does a locked and unloaded gun do, when you need access to it in a matter of seconds? |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu Mar 28 05:30:48 2019, in response to Re: Trump Will Win 2020 Election, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Mar 28 04:32:59 2019. How do you keep guns around little kids? |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Mar 28 05:51:52 2019, in response to Re: Trump Will Win 2020 Election, posted by Fred G on Thu Mar 28 05:30:48 2019. I've had firearms for decades. Way before my children were born. Anyone who's responsible knows how to keep them out of sight, out if reach, and out of mind. |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu Mar 28 05:53:53 2019, in response to Re: Trump Will Win 2020 Election, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Mar 28 05:51:52 2019. I know. It sounded like you were disagreeing with that |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Mar 28 06:41:42 2019, in response to Re: Trump Will Win 2020 Election, posted by Fred G on Thu Mar 28 05:53:53 2019. Who in their right mind would want children to have easy access to firearms?! |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu Mar 28 06:58:54 2019, in response to Re: Trump Will Win 2020 Election, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Mar 28 06:41:42 2019. Nobody would. But what are you arguing with bing bong about? |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Thu Mar 28 07:15:54 2019, in response to Re: Trump Will Win 2020 Election, posted by Fred G on Thu Mar 28 06:58:54 2019. That the only way to achieve that is to keep them locked and unloaded. |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu Mar 28 07:17:22 2019, in response to Re: Trump Will Win 2020 Election, posted by mtk52983 on Thu Mar 28 07:15:54 2019. Agreed. But "What good does a locked and unloaded gun do, when you need access to it in a matter of seconds?" |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Mar 28 07:42:15 2019, in response to Re: Trump Will Win 2020 Election, posted by Fred G on Thu Mar 28 06:58:54 2019. But I'm not arguing with her. I just brought up the fact that there were times you going to need your firearm within a matter of seconds. In fact as I sit here, my Chief is right next to me on my hip. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Mar 28 07:43:32 2019, in response to Re: Trump Will Win 2020 Election, posted by Fred G on Thu Mar 28 07:17:22 2019. I have the keys to my trigger locks on me at all times if I'm in the house. And I have my firearms in different locations in my house. All of them are inaccessible to my children, although they are all old enough to realize not to touch them but I will never give them the chance to. |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Mar 28 08:06:39 2019, in response to Re: Trump Will Win 2020 Election, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Mar 28 07:42:15 2019. Which means it's available to a child. Or anyone, for that matter. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Mar 28 08:38:24 2019, in response to Re: Trump Will Win 2020 Election, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Mar 28 07:43:32 2019. Unfortunately, many Americans are not as careful as you.How many, you may ask? Well, why don't we just look up the statistics. Oh wait, Congress forbids the federal government to compile statistics on accidental gun deaths. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Thu Mar 28 08:42:47 2019, in response to Re: Trump Will Win 2020 Election, posted by ClearAspect on Sun Mar 24 18:08:46 2019. Trump's already 72 years old. |
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